Liverpool FC Forum

Benny The Noon » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:39 am wrote:Thommo - no one is handing him over to the FA - he has been charged by them and has a chance to respond. The club have already confirmed his guilt and punished him and now the ruling governing body of the sport will act against him as the incident was happened during a game under their control.

He will get punished for the incident because that's the right course of action and Suarez will accept his punishment as will the club.

The club will be indirectly punished but that's not the FA's fault that's Suarez's fault - it's up to him to take responsibility for his actions and change - the club keep backing him - its time for him to return that and learn from his mistakes

He is a grown man who knows what is right and wrong - biting someone on a football pitch is wrong and he knows that and he will get punished for that.

You can try and twist things anyway you want - it won't change reality.

I agree.

Benny The Noon » Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:36 pm wrote:

kazza » Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:34 pm wrote:

Benny The Noon » Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:29 pm wrote:
You would be surprised on what you could catch from someone biting you.

What's funny ?

How wet you are 

kazza » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:54 am wrote:

Benny The Noon » Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:36 pm wrote:

kazza » Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:34 pm wrote:

What's funny ?

How wet you are 

Good input - well done, as ever your contribution has added great value.

Yes because we can compare the two

I can just image people on reacting a lot differently if Evra had taken a bite out of Suarez - I'm sure "rehabilitation" would be exactly what you would all be demanding

Nobody is demanding anything just putting forth an idea!

But yes, I agree with your logic - we should obviously look to rehabilitate kiddie fiddlers and rapists but condemn misdemeanors on a football pitch with punishment. No wonder the world is fucked up.

I would actually prefer to punish rapists and peadophiles

But that's a whole worlds difference to a multi millionaire not playing a few games and having to pay a fine.

I don't think you can compare the two.

Benny The Noon » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:39 am wrote:Thommo - no one is handing him over to the FA - he has been charged by them and has a chance to respond. The club have already confirmed his guilt and punished him and now the ruling governing body of the sport will act against him as the incident was happened during a game under their control.

He will get punished for the incident because that's the right course of action and Suarez will accept his punishment as will the club.

The club will be indirectly punished but that's not the FA's fault that's Suarez's fault - it's up to him to take responsibility for his actions and change - the club keep backing him - its time for him to return that and learn from his mistakes

He is a grown man who knows what is right and wrong - biting someone on a football pitch is wrong and he knows that and he will get punished for that.

You can try and twist things anyway you want - it won't change reality.

You agree with the FA and that is what Ive said from the begining.
If we want him to stop this type of behaviour then your type of punishment isnt the answer, yet you persist in saying its the right course of action.
Says who? Says the FA, thats who. The club feels it has no choice but to go along with this punishment for fear of further punishment or retribution. The whole Fu*king thing stinks of intimidation and bullying and you are condoning it. Of course he shouldnt have done it, but to be punished once for it, yet do it again tells us that banning isnt the solution, it isnt a deterrent, which is part of what punishment is supposed to achieve. What you want the FA to do is no more than revenge and taking pleasure in someones misery and serves no purpose except to show whos in charge. Suarez needs something which makes him understand what he has done and which will help him to resist doing it again. Banning him didnt work in the past, so why should it work now?
Fu'ck the FA and all who support them

I agree that what he did deserves punishment

It appears you would let him off with it.

I guess with your way he can just keep doing things and nothing will happen

The club have punished him before the FA did - that tells you exactly what they think

By stopping him playing games for us the club gets punished and the club will act further if any other discretions happen.

It's then into the court of Suarez - it will be up to him to decide what route he wants to take ?

Thommo's perm » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:04 am wrote:

Benny The Noon » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:39 am wrote:Thommo - no one is handing him over to the FA - he has been charged by them and has a chance to respond. The club have already confirmed his guilt and punished him and now the ruling governing body of the sport will act against him as the incident was happened during a game under their control.

He will get punished for the incident because that's the right course of action and Suarez will accept his punishment as will the club.

The club will be indirectly punished but that's not the FA's fault that's Suarez's fault - it's up to him to take responsibility for his actions and change - the club keep backing him - its time for him to return that and learn from his mistakes

He is a grown man who knows what is right and wrong - biting someone on a football pitch is wrong and he knows that and he will get punished for that.

You can try and twist things anyway you want - it won't change reality.

You agree with the FA and that is what Ive said from the begining.
If we want him to stop this type of behaviour then your type of punishment isnt the answer, yet you persist in saying its the right course of action.
Says who? Says the FA, thats who. The club feels it has no choice but to go along with this punishment for fear of further punishment or retribution. The whole Fu*king thing stinks of intimidation and bullying and you are condoning it. Of course he shouldnt have done it, but to be punished once for it, yet do it again tells us that banning isnt the solution, it isnt a deterrent, which is part of what punishment is supposed to achieve. What you want the FA to do is no more than revenge and taking pleasure in someones misery and serves no purpose except to show whos in charge. Suarez needs something which makes him understand what he has done and which will help him to resist doing it again. Banning him didnt work in the past, so why should it work now?
Fu'ck the FA and all who support them

I think your missing the point.

He's done the wrong thing, he gets banned. Simple. End of. Move on.

All this tribalist bollox is just that - BOLLOX

We may have to bring back Ngog. 

Problem solved

Benny The Noon » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:57 am wrote:

kazza » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:54 am wrote:

Benny The Noon » Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:36 pm wrote:What's funny ?

How wet you are 

Good input - well done, as ever your contribution has added great value.

You asked so I told you.

Benny The Noon » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:10 am wrote:I agree that what he did deserves punishment

It appears you would let him off with it.

I guess with your way he can just keep doing things and nothing will happen

The club have punished him before the FA did - that tells you exactly what they think

By stopping him playing games for us the club gets punished and the club will act further if any other discretions happen.

It's then into the court of Suarez - it will be up to him to decide what route he wants to take ?

Great theory. Lets see if it works
Fu'ck the FA by the way

Thommo's perm » Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:25 am wrote:

Benny The Noon » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:10 am wrote:I agree that what he did deserves punishment

It appears you would let him off with it.

I guess with your way he can just keep doing things and nothing will happen

The club have punished him before the FA did - that tells you exactly what they think

By stopping him playing games for us the club gets punished and the club will act further if any other discretions happen.

It's then into the court of Suarez - it will be up to him to decide what route he wants to take ?

Great theory. Lets see if it works
Fu'ck the FA by the way

And what exactly would you do right now instead of banning him a number of games ? You seem quite happy to mouth off against my ideas yet haven't actually come up with your own.

Oh have you seen Margaret Aspinalls response

Benny The Noon » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:27 am wrote:

Thommo's perm » Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:25 am wrote:

Benny The Noon » Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:10 am wrote:I agree that what he did deserves punishment

It appears you would let him off with it.

I guess with your way he can just keep doing things and nothing will happen

The club have punished him before the FA did - that tells you exactly what they think

By stopping him playing games for us the club gets punished and the club will act further if any other discretions happen.

It's then into the court of Suarez - it will be up to him to decide what route he wants to take ?

Great theory. Lets see if it works
Fu'ck the FA by the way

And what exactly would you do right now instead of banning him a number of games ? You seem quite happy to mouth off against my ideas yet haven't actually come up with your own.

Oh have you seen Margaret Aspinalls response

They arent your ideas, theyre simply what youve been told is the solution. You believe it because you are incapable or unwilling to think of an alternative.
I would advocate some sort of intervention/plan to get to the bottom of his behaviour. Maybe he should miss the next game to undergo some assessment while it is being played? And then attending some type of awareness course. I dont know, these are merely alternatives to the old ban and punish methods which are not working.

No I havent, why?

So basically you would allow him to get away with it - no match bans and just attend a couple courses.

I believe in people being punished when they do something that goes against the rules.

Once they have served their punishment then the club and the player can find ways to ensure it doesn't happen again.

But in no way should he get away with what he did on the pitch and the way the clubs name has once again been damaged by him.

And Margaret Aspinall said she would rather not accept the money and would prefer him to not bite a player.