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whatever has gone on behind the scene`s with aquilani it`s time for the club to start using it`s common sense, at the moment asking our midfield to create something is about as much use as giving a paintbrush and canvas to a housebrick and asking it to paint something, the result is exactly the same, f##k all happens. we are absolutely f##king desperate for a creative midfielder who can link up with suarez and the galling thing is we actually have a very good one on our books, infact he`s so good he plays for ac milan so surely to christ there`s someone at the club that can join the dots together and come up with the obvious solution.
if it means we lose out on a token transfer fee at the end of next season then so be it imo, getting a paltry £5m back for a player of his quality isnt going to salvage the farce surrounding his transfer so we may as well get some use out of him and lose him on a bosman than getting laughed at for selling him for £5m. you never know if he`s a regular starter and does well and builds up a rapport with the likes of lucas and suarez he may want to extend his contract, if we do really well and look like a team on the up he might fancy staying around.
if comoli or someone behind the scene`s have to swallow their pride then so be it, the club is the main thing here.

He is being played in the wrong position - he should be in the middle.

Benny The Noon wrote:He is being played in the wrong position - he should be in the middle.

I agree. But unfortunately not with this current crop of players. And I'm talking about a 4 man midfield because the 5 man midfield we're seeing hasn't/isn't providing ANYTHING going forwards. Players in our 5 man midfield are playing deep and don't support the isolated striker enough OR get ahead of the play - they're too reserved in these positions.

Let's look at Henderson first. He doesn't like a tackle (similar to Aqualini and Meireles), which in my mind is a pertinent requisite for a CM. However he could be complimented with a player lie Spearing to do the dirty work - yet everyone bemoans about wee-Jay and his short comings to actually play the DCM role anyway. So this seems a non-starter. We have Lucas he's injured though, hence the reason I said 'not with this current crop of players'.

Henderson also looks way too low on confidence right now to even be considered a key figure in an 'engine room'. Actually he's looked void of confidence all season and I thin this is his biggest problem - either that or he is a s.hit/mediocre player, but I prefer to believe that there is potential to his game but no confidence. For me, Kenny has put too much on him, and by that I mean by playing him week in and week out, I think Kenny should have eased this lad in (hindsight being a wonderful thing), I actually remember him  coming off the bench in one of our games earlier this season and he looked a LOT better when he came on, he had the look of needing to prove a pointin his game. But since he's remained in the team his game/confidence has plateaued out, and he just becomes 'mostly' a passenger in games. I think he has game intelligence and good technical ability but he hasn't optimised either and likewise with the rest of the midfield has contributed nothing going forwards to the team, our goal tally from midfield is diabolical.

I wouldn't pair him with Gerrard in midfield because I think Gerrard still offers us more going forwards than any of our midfielders do, so to ask him to sit in central midfield won't help the team's scoring problem as I doubt at this stage of the season Henderson will start chipping in with goals all of a sudden anyway.

Adam and Henderson, Christ, the way the two are playing at the moment Accrington Stanley could over run that midfield, with Charlie haplessly fooling around in midfield giving silly free-kicks away and seeking personal glory all to often, in conjunction with Henderson who looks the polar opposite of the brassy Scot, then I see this as a dangerous proposition.

However, we could play 5 in midfield to accommodate Henderson but I'll guarantee it we'll still be moaning about the lack of goals coming from them with this set-up.

Benny The Noon wrote:He is being played in the wrong position - he should be in the middle.

When he has been played in the middle he has looked slightly better but everything is relative and he has only looked better because his performance on the right wing has been so thoroughly woeful! Sorry but there is absolutely no way he should be an automatic first choice. He was awful against Brighton and Cardiff and he still gets selected for the next three league games which we lost. In certainly one and possibly two of those games he played central midfield!

played a good ball for the second goal last night and his engine is not in doubt. his decision making still leaves a lot to be desired at times but he's young and will learn.

stop playing him on the right though. it's not fair on the lad.

I don't think henderson is a poor player, I think he may need a while to bed in, as only 20/21 years old. Give em a break, he's better than aquilani.

spiceboys2014 wrote:I don't think henderson is a poor player, I think he may need a while to bed in, as only 20/21 years old. Give em a break, he's better than aquilani.

if he ends up as good as aquilani we will have a very good player on our hands, i like henderson, he makes some mistakes but he also puts in some very clever passes, yesterday he put kelly clean through and if suarez had a yard more pace he would have put him clean through too.
he played a nice pass into the channel for suarez that turned their defence in the build up to our second goal as well. he even nearly scored at one point when he followed up gerrards or suarez`s shot, i cant remember which one it was now.
considering he`s only 21 and that was a high intensity fixture i like the way he had the confidence to play those passes and to play his own game.

On one hand i can understand the charitable "give the lad time".. or "hes out of position on the right"... i too have stated this as ive seen some things that suggest he may be decent, and the criticism by the fans and media (who destroyed him last night btw) was a litlle harsh.

But then you remember this fella cost upwards of 20 million.

Bayern Munich just signed Shaqiri (Basle player) for 8 million, and the first time i saw him i said he looks a worldy. The technique and poise is evident. We on the otherhand have a player (same age) who cost more than double that and doesnt look as if he could lace his boots.

If you spend 20 million you expect quality.. and we havent seen anything approaching that.

Its another example of poor british buying that has landed us in the current state we are in.

D___C wrote:On one hand i can understand the charitable "give the lad time".. or "hes out of position on the right"... i too have stated this as ive seen some things that suggest he may be decent, and the criticism by the fans and media (who destroyed him last night btw) was a litlle harsh.

But then you remember this fella cost upwards of 20 million.

Bayern Munich just signed Shaqiri (Basle player) for 8 million, and the first time i saw him i said he looks a worldy. The technique and poise is evident. We on the otherhand have a player (same age) who cost more than double that and doesnt look as if he could lace his boots.

If you spend 20 million you expect quality.. and we havent seen anything approaching that.

Its another example of poor british buying that has landed us in the current state we are in.

write to damien comoli and tell him, i support liverpool players not bayern munich players.

I think Henderson can become a very good player for us, I have more hope for him than Carroll.he definitely has skills. But what is more important is like some posters already have highlighted is the cleverness and footballing IQ. He needs to continue to progress though and learn from Stevie as much as possible. He needs to make better decision on the field. He needs to be more aware of what's happening on the field. He needs to have a wide vision. He definitely has the talent level the same as say downing. But whether or not he becomes really world class like Stevie or remains nearly class like downing remains to be seen...

more carrick than gerrard imo.
he had a few sweet passes and you can see he has potential but its all about how we go about unlocking it and make him into a better player.
his role is probably suited to playing centrally behind the front men but at the expense of gerrard? surely not.if we sign a right winger in the summer then its the bench for him and he can be rotated with stevie which will give him time to progress without the pressure of playing every game.
he wasnt really in it against the bitters and struggled to protect kelly from baines and pienaar so it was the right choice to sub him early.
if we dont sign a winger in the summer then for me its clear that kenny signed him to play wide right and not centrally.

D___C wrote:But then you remember this fella cost upwards of 20 million.

no he didn't. it was £16m upfront with add-ons related to appearances down the line.

it's essentially the same that everton paid for fellaini and i don't see him as a world beater either.

Is Hendo Better then Jonjo? I don't know for sure but i do know Hendo got all the chances in the world to prove he deserves a first team shirt and he disappointed every time ,no sense in him playing less it's clear favortism. Bench the lad he deserves a bit of a rest.

stmichael wrote:

D___C wrote:But then you remember this fella cost upwards of 20 million.

no he didn't. it was £16m upfront with add-ons related to appearances down the line.

it's essentially the same that everton paid for fellaini and i don't see him as a world beater either.

Its also more than Arsenal paid for Oxlaide Chamberlain, now compare him in terms of talent to Henderson. We got robbed plain and simple, Henderson is no way near the required quality and never will be. To think people were claiming he was gonna be Gerrards replacement! Lord help us if he is

spiceboys2014 wrote:I don't think henderson is a poor player, I think he may need a while to bed in, as only 20/21 years old. Give em a break, he's better than aquilani.

What do you base that on?

I don't think Henderson is anything like Aquilani. Aquilani for starters likes to pass and move, pass and move, Henderson isn't this type of player.