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Postby jimmy brighton » Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:50 am

Raoul wrote:I think that Skrtel is the better defender, certainly the form defender of the two of them. If we had a real top class CB alongside Soto, then for the sake of his aerial ability I'd be tempted to play him over Skrtel. BUT with our current defenders, Skrtel is a less error prone defender, the more likely to contribute to a clean sheet, so he gets the nod over the Greek for me. I love Soto's passion, aggression and goal scoring threat, he is just too much of a defensive liability to play without the support and covering of a real top class partner in a back four.

Well said. Can't believe that are people on here are actually lauding the big cumbersome oaf!! He may be an 'attacking threat' but I prefer my defenders to be good at defending first and foremost and he clearly isn't. All you get defensive wise from him is bad decision after bad decision. You can be as passionate as Carra but if you can't play like him then you can't cut it. I've said it before and I'll say it again, he's 'Championship' material (think Leeds!!). If we give him another year's contract then sell him while we can get some money for him
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Postby only me » Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:32 pm

jimmy brighton wrote:
Raoul wrote:I think that Skrtel is the better defender, certainly the form defender of the two of them. If we had a real top class CB alongside Soto, then for the sake of his aerial ability I'd be tempted to play him over Skrtel. BUT with our current defenders, Skrtel is a less error prone defender, the more likely to contribute to a clean sheet, so he gets the nod over the Greek for me. I love Soto's passion, aggression and goal scoring threat, he is just too much of a defensive liability to play without the support and covering of a real top class partner in a back four.

Well said. Can't believe that are people on here are actually lauding the big cumbersome oaf!! He may be an 'attacking threat' but I prefer my defenders to be good at defending first and foremost and he clearly isn't. All you get defensive wise from him is bad decision after bad decision. You can be as passionate as Carra but if you can't play like him then you can't cut it. I've said it before and I'll say it again, he's 'Championship' material (think Leeds!!). If we give him another year's contract then sell him while we can get some money for him

Skertel a good defender?? Maybe he can defend a Bar in Slovakia as a bouncer. He is a $hit of a defender his whole ability amounts to kicking the nearest attacker sometimes the ref doesn't notice most of the time he gets a foul. He has poor game in the Air ,very poor passing capability and i know i can't prove it but if it wasn't for his tatoo body and the face of a rapist he would never gotten a contract as a football player.
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Postby aCe' » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:02 pm

I dont think theres much between him and Skrtel... I'd rate Skrtel as the better defender only for his better mobility and pace... Neither is that good in terms of positioning or awareness... Wouldnt have a problem with either/both being shipped out if it means we replace them with better players.

Thing is, Skrtel has the makings of a good defender. He has the strength, the height, the mobility and is pretty decent at stopping people going past him. He has also shown in patches that he can challenge aerially when he takes up the right position. If Clarke and Kenny can work on getting him to go tighter on the forward he's marking then i think he'd make a decent CB or at the very least an excellent squad player.

As things stand however, hes not good enough to be starting...
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Postby Raoul » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:08 pm

only me wrote:
jimmy brighton wrote:
Raoul wrote:I think that Skrtel is the better defender, certainly the form defender of the two of them. If we had a real top class CB alongside Soto, then for the sake of his aerial ability I'd be tempted to play him over Skrtel. BUT with our current defenders, Skrtel is a less error prone defender, the more likely to contribute to a clean sheet, so he gets the nod over the Greek for me. I love Soto's passion, aggression and goal scoring threat, he is just too much of a defensive liability to play without the support and covering of a real top class partner in a back four.

Well said. Can't believe that are people on here are actually lauding the big cumbersome oaf!! He may be an 'attacking threat' but I prefer my defenders to be good at defending first and foremost and he clearly isn't. All you get defensive wise from him is bad decision after bad decision. You can be as passionate as Carra but if you can't play like him then you can't cut it. I've said it before and I'll say it again, he's 'Championship' material (think Leeds!!). If we give him another year's contract then sell him while we can get some money for him

Skertel a good defender?? Maybe he can defend a Bar in Slovakia as a bouncer. He is a $hit of a defender his whole ability amounts to kicking the nearest attacker sometimes the ref doesn't notice most of the time he gets a foul. He has poor game in the Air ,very poor passing capability and i know i can't prove it but if it wasn't for his tatoo body and the face of a rapist he would never gotten a contract as a football player.

only me, I'm not sure if you are replying to me or jimmy, but I think if you actually read our posts neither of us have said anything about Skrtel being a good defender. All we've said is he is a better defender than Kyrgiakos. That is hardly the same thing.
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Postby jimmy brighton » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:29 am

Raoul wrote:
only me wrote:
jimmy brighton wrote:
Raoul wrote:I think that Skrtel is the better defender, certainly the form defender of the two of them. If we had a real top class CB alongside Soto, then for the sake of his aerial ability I'd be tempted to play him over Skrtel. BUT with our current defenders, Skrtel is a less error prone defender, the more likely to contribute to a clean sheet, so he gets the nod over the Greek for me. I love Soto's passion, aggression and goal scoring threat, he is just too much of a defensive liability to play without the support and covering of a real top class partner in a back four.

Well said. Can't believe that are people on here are actually lauding the big cumbersome oaf!! He may be an 'attacking threat' but I prefer my defenders to be good at defending first and foremost and he clearly isn't. All you get defensive wise from him is bad decision after bad decision. You can be as passionate as Carra but if you can't play like him then you can't cut it. I've said it before and I'll say it again, he's 'Championship' material (think Leeds!!). If we give him another year's contract then sell him while we can get some money for him

Skertel a good defender?? Maybe he can defend a Bar in Slovakia as a bouncer. He is a $hit of a defender his whole ability amounts to kicking the nearest attacker sometimes the ref doesn't notice most of the time he gets a foul. He has poor game in the Air ,very poor passing capability and i know i can't prove it but if it wasn't for his tatoo body and the face of a rapist he would never gotten a contract as a football player.

only me, I'm not sure if you are replying to me or jimmy, but I think if you actually read our posts neither of us have said anything about Skrtel being a good defender. All we've said is he is a better defender than Kyrgiakos. That is hardly the same thing.

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Postby only me » Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:13 pm

Raoul wrote:
only me wrote:
jimmy brighton wrote:
Raoul wrote:I think that Skrtel is the better defender, certainly the form defender of the two of them. If we had a real top class CB alongside Soto, then for the sake of his aerial ability I'd be tempted to play him over Skrtel. BUT with our current defenders, Skrtel is a less error prone defender, the more likely to contribute to a clean sheet, so he gets the nod over the Greek for me. I love Soto's passion, aggression and goal scoring threat, he is just too much of a defensive liability to play without the support and covering of a real top class partner in a back four.

Well said. Can't believe that are people on here are actually lauding the big cumbersome oaf!! He may be an 'attacking threat' but I prefer my defenders to be good at defending first and foremost and he clearly isn't. All you get defensive wise from him is bad decision after bad decision. You can be as passionate as Carra but if you can't play like him then you can't cut it. I've said it before and I'll say it again, he's 'Championship' material (think Leeds!!). If we give him another year's contract then sell him while we can get some money for him

Skertel a good defender?? Maybe he can defend a Bar in Slovakia as a bouncer. He is a $hit of a defender his whole ability amounts to kicking the nearest attacker sometimes the ref doesn't notice most of the time he gets a foul. He has poor game in the Air ,very poor passing capability and i know i can't prove it but if it wasn't for his tatoo body and the face of a rapist he would never gotten a contract as a football player.

only me, I'm not sure if you are replying to me or jimmy, but I think if you actually read our posts neither of us have said anything about Skrtel being a good defender. All we've said is he is a better defender than Kyrgiakos. That is hardly the same thing.

Fair enough. I stand corrected.
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Postby Dundalk » Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:18 pm

The big man has left us to join Wolfsburg.

We have to be buying a new centre back now
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Postby The Good Yank » Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:25 pm

Dundalk wrote:The big man has left us to join Wolfsburg.

We have to be buying a new centre back now

Good luck Soto, Will always be remembered for... Ummm... that time...Hmm.. Good luck.
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Postby Greavesie » Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:47 pm

In Soto's defence he was bought in for pennies (1.5m IIRC) and was supposed to be back up and he did his job pretty well - usually reliable when he was needed. All the best to the lad, never cried or argued, put his head down and got on with it.

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Postby metalhead » Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:48 pm

Good Luck Soto, well at least we can say that he never complained and gave a 100% every time he played
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Postby *_Ruthless_* » Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:50 pm

Good luck with the future Soto!!
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Postby brentd4 » Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:54 pm

Dundalk wrote:The big man has left us to join Wolfsburg.

We have to be buying a new centre back now

thats the best thing about this transfer, i agree that we would maybe have kept him incase of injuries etc, now hes gone there has to be someone else coming in,,, unless kelly is gonna be played in the centre when johnson comes back
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Postby Igor Zidane » Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:56 pm

good luck nick , you tried your best and that's all that can be asked. Bargain for £1.5 million .
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Postby Kukilon » Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:05 pm

Good luck! Liked him but he wasn't the best.
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Postby parchpea » Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:06 pm

He gave his all and for what we paid was a decent purchase I felt.We have done a lot worse than him for much more money. Sure he will do alright at Wolfsburg and good luck to him.
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