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by **ruskiy playmaker** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 7:34 am

If Roy doesn't get fired before the next fixture, then I'm going to start having doubts about our owners. Any other top club would have fired his :censored:

a long time ago.

by **Liverpool KAIGELS** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:26 am

Agreed above , I dont understand why its taking so long to sack Hodgson . I can only imagine that they are working on a replacement , so as soon Hodgson is sacked (hopefully soon) the replacement would be anounced immediately .

by **Dundalk** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:40 am

The board will eventually have to bow to pressure from the fans

No its not the Liverpool way to sack a manager so early in the season but what option do we have its clearly not working

by **RedSi35** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:47 am

Unless someone else is already lined up, i hope for sanity sake they dont put sammy lee in temp charge if roy resigns.

Can only see it being kenny, lee has to go with roy

by **Thommo's perm** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:36 am

Ciggy wrote:
metalhead wrote:
Dundalk wrote:Gone far too deep for him now, I doubt he has the support off any of the fans

he doesn't, probably 1%

Tomos perm, max pax, Devany, Lee J and the rest of the stalkers Ive accumilated 3 yellows for Woy, feck off Woy you clueless gobsh!te told yers I was wight

Dear oh dear
How happy you must be that were in sh'it street. How will you feel if were relegated? Orgasmic wouldnt even begin to describe it I'll bet.
Just to clarify. The only reason you are "right" is because small minded, bitter and spiteful people like you couldnt handle that El Magnifico got the sack for losing the plot and so turned your bile on the next manager. I doubt if it would have mattered who got the job, such was your hysteria and lust for revenge. Roy has never been given a proper chance from day one. This was due to circumstances beyond his control and he was possibly too naive to understand the dragons den he had entered. It wouldnt have mattered what results we got, for some he was and always would be "out of his depth". He hasnt done himself any favours with his statements or signings, but he has been on the back foot from the off and it was inevitable that he would be jumped on for every single negative thing. The mob will get their way Im sure and the darkest days are in front of us
Whatever happens now will be totally unpleasant and I see a civil war breaking out amongst fans, turning on each other like rats on a sinking ship. I will personally accept us to go down if it gets rid of sh'it players and ignorant embarrassing fans.

by **Ola Mr Benitez** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:50 am

You have to give him credit.. he has united tha fans at last... Now everyone wants him out

I have supported him so far but I am afraid even I have given up on him.

by **SouthCoastShankly** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:53 am

Ciggy wrote:
metalhead wrote:
Dundalk wrote:Gone far too deep for him now, I doubt he has the support off any of the fans

he doesn't, probably 1%

Tomos perm, max pax, Devany, Lee J and the rest of the stalkers Ive accumilated 3 yellows for Woy, feck off Woy you clueless gobsh!te told yers I was wight

Well yes you were right.

In my defence I was never a fan of his I just backed him for the sack of unity. I was sure (and still am) that the plan by NESV was to replace him in the summer.

But the way things are going his position becomes more and more untenable. Last night was the lowest we've sunk to, it felt awful. Not only because of the result but the manner in how we lost. No ideas, no motivation.

by **andy_g** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:04 am

surely last night was the last straw for the owners, as much as it has been for some of the fans. people like myself have tried to give him the benefit of the doubt for as long as possible but it looks like patience has run out almost universally now. he has to go after a non-performance like that. he can pull out all the excuses in the book but he has to know that it all comes back to him, and the fact that he has no idea what to do to turn things around. i will be bitterly disappointed, and will lose a bit of faith in NESV, if he is still in the job by the end of today

by **akumaface** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:15 am

Thommo's perm wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
metalhead wrote:
Dundalk wrote:Gone far too deep for him now, I doubt he has the support off any of the fans

he doesn't, probably 1%

Tomos perm, max pax, Devany, Lee J and the rest of the stalkers Ive accumilated 3 yellows for Woy, feck off Woy you clueless gobsh!te told yers I was wight

Dear oh dear
How happy you must be that were in sh'it street. How will you feel if were relegated? Orgasmic wouldnt even begin to describe it I'll bet.
Just to clarify. The only reason you are "right" is because small minded, bitter and spiteful people like you couldnt handle that El Magnifico got the sack for losing the plot and so turned your bile on the next manager. I doubt if it would have mattered who got the job, such was your hysteria and lust for revenge. Roy has never been given a proper chance from day one. This was due to circumstances beyond his control and he was possibly too naive to understand the dragons den he had entered. It wouldnt have mattered what results we got, for some he was and always would be "out of his depth". He hasnt done himself any favours with his statements or signings, but he has been on the back foot from the off and it was inevitable that he would be jumped on for every single negative thing. The mob will get their way Im sure and the darkest days are in front of us
Whatever happens now will be totally unpleasant and I see a civil war breaking out amongst fans, turning on each other like rats on a sinking ship. I will personally accept us to go down if it gets rid of sh'it players and ignorant embarrassing fans.

I don't think we are happy as we are suffering from one of the most embarassing season in LFC history. The reason a lot of us wanted him sacked is because we can see this coming. So, the earlier we remove him the better chance we have. And don't give us that "he was never given a proper chance" etc...What more chances does he need. YOu think we should stick with him and relegated eventually to consider he was given a proper chance? Professional sports is like this, you either perform or you get the boot. YOu have to agree we are not improving in any way. There is no other option now. The owners must do something now!

by **metalhead** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:19 am

was snooping around RAWK, and read this

Dear John,

You said yourself recently that their have been many poor short term decisions taken at this football club in the recent past. This is undoubtedly true and one of them was the appointment of Roy Hodgson as Liverpool manager. In all his 35 years of management there was absolutely no evidence that he had the experience required to manage a club of the stature of Liverpool FC. Despite this, for six months this site has supported him as best we could, as we did not want to exacerbate a problem not of your making. We were happy to trust your judgement, to allow you to get your feet under the desk, to appoint a management team and to make the right decision on the manager when you were ready. We were hoping that in return Roy just might prove capable of limiting the long-term damage to the club during that time.

Unfortunately it is clear from events so far this season culminating in the inept display last night that the consequences of keeping Roy Hodgson in place are now so pressing that immediate and decisive action is required from Fenway. His position at the club is no longer tenable, he appears to have lost the ability to motivate the team, a team of internationals and World Cup winners, and he has certainly lost the backing of the Anfield crowd with 40,000 openly showing their derision at his inept tactics. The bond between Liverpool fans and their managers is strong, stronger than at any club in the world, and in normal circumstances it would be unthinkable to see the crowd turn on the manager as they did last night. If there was ever any coming back from that for Mr. Hodgson he closed that door himself in his post-match interview when he criticised the support of those same fans. Sorry, but those fans will be standing on the Kop supporting this team long after Roy Hodgson has gone and they were supporting their club in the only way they know how, defending it from a man who is corroding it from the inside.

We wholeheartedly agree with your strategy of concentrating on what is in the best long-term interests of Liverpool FC, even if it is at the expense of short-term popularity. We now believe however that we have reached a tipping point and that Roy Hodgson's continued presence in the dugout is now detrimental to the long-term future of the club as well as our immediate future this league season.

Pretty much sums it up in a fair balanced way.. agree with it

by **Ben Patrick** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:20 am

andy_g wrote:surely last night was the last straw for the owners, as much as it has been for some of the fans. people like myself have tried to give him the benefit of the doubt for as long as possible but it looks like patience has run out almost universally now. he has to go after a non-performance like that. he can pull out all the excuses in the book but he has to know that it all comes back to him, and the fact that he has no idea what to do to turn things around. i will be bitterly disappointed, and will lose a bit of faith in NESV, if he is still in the job by the end of today

i think this is right, some didnt want him near the club in the first place and called it right.
Others thought, just give him a chance and try and get behind him.
Slowly but surely it looks like every fan wants him out now.
I went last night with my son and didnt know what to say to him. I just said nights like this will make success when it comes all the better.
My main problems with last night were the fact that Meireles got moved back to the right when it has never worked with him there. Then when he took him off for Cole, Cole went in the middle but virtually on top of our own back 4 and there was nobody on the right.
I honestly had no idea what the formation or system was.
He should have had the balls to haul Torres off and taking Ngog off who was playing well was just taking the easy option.
Wolves didnt sneak that yesterday, they deserved it. They also didnt play their 2 main strikers in Doyle and Fletcher. It's as embarrasing as it gets and there shouldnt be any excuses. The comments he has now made about the fans i believe have made his position untenable.
Its in everyones best interests if he is removed immediately.

by **yellsub66** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:25 am

Thommo's perm wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
metalhead wrote:
Dundalk wrote:Gone far too deep for him now, I doubt he has the support off any of the fans

he doesn't, probably 1%

Tomos perm, max pax, Devany, Lee J and the rest of the stalkers Ive accumilated 3 yellows for Woy, feck off Woy you clueless gobsh!te told yers I was wight

Dear oh dear
How happy you must be that were in sh'it street. How will you feel if were relegated? Orgasmic wouldnt even begin to describe it I'll bet.
Just to clarify. The only reason you are "right" is because small minded, bitter and spiteful people like you couldnt handle that El Magnifico got the sack for losing the plot and so turned your bile on the next manager. I doubt if it would have mattered who got the job, such was your hysteria and lust for revenge. Roy has never been given a proper chance from day one. This was due to circumstances beyond his control and he was possibly too naive to understand the dragons den he had entered. It wouldnt have mattered what results we got, for some he was and always would be "out of his depth". He hasnt done himself any favours with his statements or signings, but he has been on the back foot from the off and it was inevitable that he would be jumped on for every single negative thing. The mob will get their way Im sure and the darkest days are in front of us
Whatever happens now will be totally unpleasant and I see a civil war breaking out amongst fans, turning on each other like rats on a sinking ship. I will personally accept us to go down if it gets rid of sh'it players and ignorant embarrassing fans.

Dear Thommo's Perm. The reason this forum is becoming so divided is because certain posters are aiming personal insults at each other over what is rapidly becoming a desperate situation for the club. Yes we have new owners and we now have virtually no debt...yet the club appears to be in meltdown on the pitch!

Hodgson is CLEARLY out of his depth and has been ever since he arrived. The players must also shoulder some of the blame for the dreadful performances, but at the end of the day the buck stops with the MANAGER!!

It is wrong of you to suggest he has never been given a chance by Liverpool fans. It is also totally incorrect of you to suggest that ANY true Liverpool would want to see the club relegated...that's just unbelievable.

As a club we are now a total and utter laughing stock! We have lost eight games already in Premiership and have a negative goal difference. Even during Benitez' final season things never got as desperate as they are now.

Hodgson is a completely MEDIOCRE manager who was never the correct choice for Liverpool. He was appointed by idiots and is a stagnant remnant from the dire Texan regime.

I am 100% certain that Hodgson would have been sacked by any other club in the Premiership for the run of results since he took over at Liverpool, let alone the supposed top four clubs!! It is not just the results either. The man inspires no confidence and has the down beaten demeanour of a tramp. His bumbling and negative press conferences/interviews have also been laced with bile and spite, often directed at the players and the fanbase.

The man is conceited, arrogant and appears to have no self awareness. If he had any ounce of decency then he would resign immediately and admit to his fawning admirers in the UK media that he is not fit to manage a top club. What he achieved with Fulham in the Europa was a complete fluke...and let's not forget...he didn't even win the thing!!

As much as it pain's me to admit it, I just cannot imagine the Mancs tolerating such total mediocrity! I cannot imagine the Utd players playing with so little passion and belief for such an extended period. Can anyone on here imagine old whiskey nose tolerating such performances for so long?

All top teams can struggle as we have seen this season (witness Chelsea) yet something very negative appears to have gripped our club? If it is total apathy and resignation amongst the playing squad then Hodgson is NOT the man to give them a rocket up the backside.

A new man needs to come in immediately and if NESV do not act before the next match, then I fear a backlash from the fans against the new owners. I am a knowledgable fan and have supported our club for over 35 years. I cannot remember a worse period 'on the field' and a time when I was so embarrassed by a manager or indeed the performances. In Rafa's last season he struggled and the team struggled..yet he was under immense pressure, especially from the disgusting regime he was forced to work under. Hodgson has been working for several months under supportive new owners yet still he serves up football that is dire!!

Can any poster on here honestly remember a time with our club when it looked like we would never win a game?

That time is with us now.

If NESV don't act..we will be relegation fodder!

DO THE RIGHT THING!!

by **maguskwt** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:39 am

yellsub66 wrote:
Thommo's perm wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
metalhead wrote:
Dundalk wrote:Gone far too deep for him now, I doubt he has the support off any of the fans

he doesn't, probably 1%

Tomos perm, max pax, Devany, Lee J and the rest of the stalkers Ive accumilated 3 yellows for Woy, feck off Woy you clueless gobsh!te told yers I was wight

Dear oh dear
How happy you must be that were in sh'it street. How will you feel if were relegated? Orgasmic wouldnt even begin to describe it I'll bet.
Just to clarify. The only reason you are "right" is because small minded, bitter and spiteful people like you couldnt handle that El Magnifico got the sack for losing the plot and so turned your bile on the next manager. I doubt if it would have mattered who got the job, such was your hysteria and lust for revenge. Roy has never been given a proper chance from day one. This was due to circumstances beyond his control and he was possibly too naive to understand the dragons den he had entered. It wouldnt have mattered what results we got, for some he was and always would be "out of his depth". He hasnt done himself any favours with his statements or signings, but he has been on the back foot from the off and it was inevitable that he would be jumped on for every single negative thing. The mob will get their way Im sure and the darkest days are in front of us
Whatever happens now will be totally unpleasant and I see a civil war breaking out amongst fans, turning on each other like rats on a sinking ship. I will personally accept us to go down if it gets rid of sh'it players and ignorant embarrassing fans.

Dear Thommo's Perm. The reason this forum is becoming so divided is because certain posters are aiming personal insults at each other over what is rapidly becoming a desperate situation for the club. Yes we have new owners and we now have virtually no debt...yet the club appears to be in meltdown on the pitch!

Hodgson is CLEARLY out of his depth and has been ever since he arrived. The players must also shoulder some of the blame for the dreadful performances, but at the end of the day the buck stops with the MANAGER!!

It is wrong of you to suggest he has never been given a chance by Liverpool fans. It is also totally incorrect of you to suggest that ANY true Liverpool would want to see the club relegated...that's just unbelievable.

As a club we are now a total and utter laughing stock! We have lost eight games already in Premiership and have a negative goal difference. Even during Benitez' final season things never got as desperate as they are now.

Hodgson is a completely MEDIOCRE manager who was never the correct choice for Liverpool. He was appointed by idiots and is a stagnant remnant from the dire Texan regime.

I am 100% certain that Hodgson would have been sacked by any other club in the Premiership for the run of results since he took over at Liverpool, let alone the supposed top four clubs!! It is not just the results either. The man inspires no confidence and has the down beaten demeanour of a tramp. His bumbling and negative press conferences/interviews have also been laced with bile and spite, often directed at the players and the fanbase.

The man is conceited, arrogant and appears to have no self awareness. If he had any ounce of decency then he would resign immediately and admit to his fawning admirers in the UK media that he is not fit to manage a top club. What he achieved with Fulham in the Europa was a complete fluke...and let's not forget...he didn't even win the thing!!

As much as it pain's me to admit it, I just cannot imagine the Mancs tolerating such total mediocrity! I cannot imagine the Utd players playing with so little passion and belief for such an extended period. Can anyone on here imagine old whiskey nose tolerating such performances for so long?

All top teams can struggle as we have seen this season (witness Chelsea) yet something very negative appears to have gripped our club? If it is total apathy and resignation amongst the playing squad then Hodgson is NOT the man to give them a rocket up the backside.

A new man needs to come in immediately and if NESV do not act before the next match, then I fear a backlash from the fans against the new owners. I am a knowledgable fan and have supported our club for over 35 years. I cannot remember a worse period 'on the field' and a time when I was so embarrassed by a manager or indeed the performances. In Rafa's last season he struggled and the team struggled..yet he was under immense pressure, especially from the disgusting regime he was forced to work under. Hodgson has been working for several months under supportive new owners yet still he serves up football that is dire!!

Can any poster on here honestly remember a time with our club when it looked like we would never win a game?

That time is with us now.

If NESV don't act..we will be relegation fodder!

DO THE RIGHT THING!!

May I say that this is a feckin brilliant post?

by **lakes10** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:04 pm

ok so in truth i could have picked a better game to go to over xmas.
been many year since i have been up to liverpool during xmas and i still love the place but

i was shocked by some of the views in the kop. yes most of them understood and said that Roy had been left with a vry poor team and he needs time and money to put the club right.

there was almost a fight in the kop when 4 fans started to call for Rafa to come back, six other fans tried to get them to shut up, the the name king k started.

it did not last long as other fans started to shout out to them to back the team and started to sing our old songs, but it did not last, the kop was in a very bad mood, my mate i was with just lives outside the ground and said the kop has been like this all year.

i would say that some are using the poor team that Roy has as a chance to try and get Rafa back....in fact i know that to be true as a few of them said so, others feel that Kenny should be back.......but some of them are only calling for him to get roy out in hope of getting Rafa back

in all it seemed like this in the kop

20% backing Rafa
15% kenny
65% backing the manager and team

and another point i will make.....Torres, 16 times he had the ball and lost it 14 times!!!!

a lot of the kop wished he would be taken off but again did not use their voice.

the pro Rafa are almost like thugs on the Kop and its not very nice

sorry if you dont like this post but it was i see and heard, and its very sad.

back the team and manager, we will get new money and chance to buils a new team.
the said point is that the 70% that are backing the team and manager are not using their voice on the Kop.

by **worcester_red** » Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:09 pm

65% backed Hodgson!! How weird that I didn't hear a single Hodgson chant then. Rafa thugs are on this forum as well.

In all seriousness though Hodgson has to go now, the team played with no tactics yesterday, it was absolute fecking garbage. It was so bad that I ended up arguing with my brother over whom of us thought we were the most sh!te and hated Woy the most.

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