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Benny The Noon wrote:

Lee J wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

stmichael wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:What exactly  is the improvement on the pitch then ?

what improvements were you expecting considering we were forced to sell our best midfielder, our best striker is half fit at best and probably our best creative player along with gerrard has unluckily missed our last three games with suspension. this is not to mention the fact that we're playing a centre half at left back and have now lost a key player (kuyt) for a month?

listen it's hardly been awe inspring stiff but we've had nowhere near what i'd consider our best eleven on the pitch so far. i'm not pro or anti hodgson. we battled well yesterday but were devoid of quality. that's where we are unfortunatley.

St Mick we were told on numerous occasions by the Hodgson fans that he would be a breath of fresh air at the club - we would no longer be getting these inept performances , we would not set up negatively against smaller clubs , we would attack , the players would play with a smile on there face , the man management from Hodgson would improve the morale and the way we play - when does it start then ? not seen anything that people were suggesting yet .

FOUR WEEKS INTO A SEASON YOU PR!CK

Hold on a minute -
1. Less of the insults

2. The way people were talking Hodgson was going to have an immediate effect - why is he getting them playing the same way - its him setting the tactics up - where is the smile on the players faces , where is this grasp of the prem , where is this fantastic man management ,

Nothing has changed - in fact we have got worse on the field .

well go support someone else, ya boring the t!ts off me with all your cr@p

Ciggy wrote:

stmichael wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:Numerous people claimed that things would change immediatly , Hodgson would be a breath of fresh air , things would change , we would no longer be defensive , we would attack teams , we would not set up in a defensive format , the players would be smiling , they would enjoy their football , they would play with the shackles removed - None of that has happened - so when will it .

who said that? 

Most on here and in the press and the boardroom.

well considering the board and 95% of the media are clueless idiots, that makes perfect sense.

Lee J wrote:well go support someone else, ya boring the t!ts off me with all your cr@p

So because hes being honest about the situtation and telling the truth, he should go and support someone else cause you dont want to hear it?

How does that work 

Benny The Noon wrote:As per usual when you can't offer a counter debate with a bit of sense and maturity you resort to insults

Thats what Evertonains do because they have no come backs they can only use insults 

Benny The Noon wrote:

Thommo's perm wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

Thommo's perm wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:

Thommo's perm wrote:Seriously. Do you carry on like this around the house? Does your family not ever say "stop Fu*king moaning like an arl quilt"?
The last manager had more than enough time and money to win the league but didnt. His best wasnt good enough. We have to give the new manager time because its in OUR best interests to do so.
What is it that you really want?
 

So why didnt you give the previous manager as long as it takes ?

Answer the questions

I will answer any football question posed to me once you have answered mine .

You say Hodgson should be given as long as it takes

So why didnt you give the previous manager as long as it takes - esp when his track record is superior to current manager .

How much did benitez waste?

Ok i guess your not going to answer - discussion over for the time being and we will return as the season goes on and see if the improvements have been made . Thanks for ducking and diving when faced with a bit of reality.

Ouch! Reality hurts

I have neither the time or inclination to argue with a closed minded person who claims to be a supporter while undermining our manager at every opportunity.
I asked you what it is you really want. Do you know?[/quote]
I know exactly what i want - i want the club to be success , i want the club to win trophies , i want the club to beat the best teams in europe , i want us to be challenging at the very least , i want us to have teams like West Brom come to Anfield and i want to see them get soundly beaten , i want a manager who is top class and has pedigree of being at the top and beating the best, a manager with a track record of success at the top level  .

None of that i see will happen with current manager .

Numerous people claimed that things would change immediatly , Hodgson would be a breath of fresh air , things would change , we would no longer be defensive , we would attack teams , we would not set up in a defensive format , the players would be smiling , they would enjoy their football , they would play with the shackles removed - None of that has happened - so when will it .

The players in the past have proved they are good enough to challenge .[/quote]
I can understand where youre coming from because I want some of those things too. But I am a realist and you either want a magician with a magic wand or a time machine to take you back to the seventies.
Your animosity towards the manager is quite childish. Do you really expect someone to walk into a club and make right all the things that are wrong? This wizard would cast a spell and change players mentalities and attitudes overnight but woe betide him if this transformation was not immediate. Forget Spurs or city. Hodgsons got the hardest job in football. It is a MASSIVE job he has to turn things round and drag us back to where we belong. Good luck to him I say.
"a manager with a track record of success at the top level" Shankly, Paisley, Fagan, Dalglish, Ferguson. In the modern game, Wenger, Guardiola. None of these had (as far as I know) success at the top level. Yet they didnt do too bad did they?
Stamping your feet and demanding instant results is really not big or clever. As Ive said before, we get it. You love Rafa and dont like Roy.

Ciggy wrote:It is highly disturbing that when the camera goes in on roy, he looks clueless. He is not giving orders out, he just stands or sits there with his head in his hands
doesnt write nothing down, doesnt seem to know how to change things or have a plan B.

Everyone could see that Barry feckin Ferguson was bossing our midfield after 20 minutes why no change at half time? I never want to see Lucas & Poulson playing in the same game ever again, crab like passes outwide or backwards. Carragher and Skyrtel hoofing, Glen Johnson playing like he's high on something meeting himself coming back.

And we have Daniel Agger a centre back thats comfortable on the ball brings the ball out of the defence and has a threat of scoring a goal finds himself sitting on the bench when he is the best defender we have at the club. Baffeling.

Get Johnson on that right wing play kelly at left back, get Agger back in that defence and hope that Konshesky hasnt got a serious injury.

People also need to be honest here say everything was hunky dory behind the scenes how many people here think Hodgson would have been given the job?

Never mind waiting and seeing and never mind being scared of being proven wrong, is Roy capable of managing the Redmen to silverware?

No. Not even close. He has no idea how to handle the job, and that's clear from his lack of decision-making.

He could well be the shortest ever tennant in the hotseat of Anfield at the rate he's going. Utter garbage performances and a total lack of control all over the pitch.

It's painful to watch a team that bossed the likes of Sh*tski, Man Scum, Barcalona, Real and Juve not too long ago having less possession (53-47%) and registering less shots than Birmingham City (15 to 14). Even West Brom had 14 attempts to our 11 at Anfield, so it's got f*ck all to do with the location. (Our possession in that game was 56%.)

To highlight the problem, the last time Liverpool played Fulham at Anfield (Benitez Vs Hodgson, at a time when we were, apparantly, W*nk and Fulham were managed by the supposed Messiah), the stats were as follows:

Possession: LFC 55%-45% Fulham.

Attempts on target: LFC 9 - 2 Fulham.

Attempts off target: LFC 9 - 0 Fulham.

We've gone from having 9x the amount of shots since April.

Our possession against Man City this season was 35%. That is truly shocking and there's no wonder we got tw*tted all over the place. (In the corresponding fixture last season, we had 52%.)

If you don't control the ball, you can't control the match. If you don't shoot, you won't score.

To say a certain poster loves the line "it's a simple game, really", it would seem some place a lot of stock in someone who fails to grasp this concept.

In and Out wrote:

Bad Bob wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:Worst start to a prem in terms of points in 4 years .

Come on, mate, let's not go down the route of pointless stats.

We are one point--one--worse off than after four games last season and we are one point--one--better than than we were at the start of the 06-07 season.  Let's not make out like our form is massively different than what we've seen in the last few seasons and let's not read too much into points tallies and league tables after 4 matches.  There is a LONG way to go this season and, as we are in a rebuilding phase, patience is required (and, yes, I know you're going to say that the modern game doesn't afford much patience blah, blah, blah...but that's too bad--it's essential when a new manager comes in).

Should be another Meat Loaf image.

It's ridiculous. People can't wait for the 'i told you so' opportunity to arise and are looking to play that idiom at any given opportunity. Any cr.appy stat to back their miserable opinions and hey ho life becomes as grey as the boards.

Some need a more active sex-life or even need to get out the house to get a bit of fresh air, cold shower an all perhaps.

Some need to accept the medicine they were forcing on others previously, too. 

Lando_Griffin wrote:

In and Out wrote:

Bad Bob wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:Worst start to a prem in terms of points in 4 years .

Come on, mate, let's not go down the route of pointless stats.

We are one point--one--worse off than after four games last season and we are one point--one--better than than we were at the start of the 06-07 season.  Let's not make out like our form is massively different than what we've seen in the last few seasons and let's not read too much into points tallies and league tables after 4 matches.  There is a LONG way to go this season and, as we are in a rebuilding phase, patience is required (and, yes, I know you're going to say that the modern game doesn't afford much patience blah, blah, blah...but that's too bad--it's essential when a new manager comes in).

Should be another Meat Loaf image.

It's ridiculous. People can't wait for the 'i told you so' opportunity to arise and are looking to play that idiom at any given opportunity. Any cr.appy stat to back their miserable opinions and hey ho life becomes as grey as the boards.

Some need a more active sex-life or even need to get out the house to get a bit of fresh air, cold shower an all perhaps.

Some need to accept the medicine they were forcing on others previously, too. 

If the cap fits

Benny The Noon wrote:

Bad Bob wrote:

Benny The Noon wrote:Worst start to a prem in terms of points in 4 years .

Come on, mate, let's not go down the route of pointless stats.

We are one point--one--worse off than after four games last season and we are one point--one--better than than we were at the start of the 06-07 season.  Let's not make out like our form is massively different than what we've seen in the last few seasons and let's not read too much into points tallies and league tables after 4 matches.  There is a LONG way to go this season and, as we are in a rebuilding phase, patience is required (and, yes, I know you're going to say that the modern game doesn't afford much patience blah, blah, blah...but that's too bad--it's essential when a new manager comes in).

Have we not learnt from the previous seasons that the start defines your season - we have wax lyricaled about our poor starts hurting our season . Hodgson knows the prem , he knows the opposition we are going to be facing , he is making the choices on line ups and the tactics and the way we play . We need an up turn in form to release pressure and to start climbing the table .

No mate - our poor results were all down to the ignorance and stubborness of the fat Spanish Waiter.

He wasn't keeping us competitive at all. He was the poison running through the veins of the club - never forget that. The silly c*nt couldn't even beat the likes of Birmingham. I mean - an English manager would have no problem sweeping them aside, because he'd set the team up to play to their strengths instead of worrying about the opposition. There'd be no need for playing people out of position and we'd march on over them and up to the top of the table, where we belong. Yeeeeaaaahhhh! Maybe then we can W*nk furiously in a corner at what it means to be British!!!

Well - welcome to reality, f*cktards. We're struggling to string 2 passes together whilst the clueless, fat Spanish waiter has already won 1 trophy with his new side, in a new league, where he needs time to settle and get used to a different style.

"Ohhhh, but he's doing it with Mourinho's team" I hear you cry; Yes, minus a few players he is. But then, Roy is doing HIS particular thing with a team capable of winning the league, don't forget...

You simple-minded buffoons.