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by **metalhead** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:34 pm

RUSHIE#9 wrote:He's forgotten that LFC made him what he now is, he was nothing when the club rescued him from his miserable spell at West Ham. He owes the club some loyalty by playing to his best ability until Barcelona or Inter come up with a respectable offer.

is right

by **Owzat** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:27 am

sgs wrote:I hate that he resorted to those methods, but from the moment he indicated to Roy directly his wish to leave, he should never have remained in our plans for any match...

Then you hand him way too much control over a transfer because clubs won't offer full whack if the player is not playing and therefore so obviously going to leave anyway.

Or put another way, I can't see a club matching any valuation of £25m+ for a player who is not playing and obviously either shut out or out of favour.

by **The Raven** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:48 am

Owzat wrote:
sgs wrote:I hate that he resorted to those methods, but from the moment he indicated to Roy directly his wish to leave, he should never have remained in our plans for any match...

Then you hand him way too much control over a transfer because clubs won't offer full whack if the player is not playing and therefore so obviously going to leave anyway.

Or put another way, I can't see a club matching any valuation of £25m+ for a player who is not playing and obviously either shut out or out of favour.

Mach is a total :censored:

.

Milner..........He wanted to move to city? it looked on off yet he still went out first game of the season and played for villa.

Arsenal mach did the same. What changed? That we didnt bend over and get :censored:

with the helb stick?

Mach needed to grow a set and say nothing other than he wanted to go but until such time he would play for the club that pays his wages and took him from zero to captain of his country.

I dislike him more than Owen and Mcmanaman put together.

by **mart** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:55 am

parchpea wrote:Football clubs let players and agents dominate them so much and thats what I find hard to understand. Its way beyond time they started writing in very strict terms and conditions into the contracts to ensure it is almost impossible for footballers to control situations in this way.

Its a consequence of how football clubs are run, especially the big clubs.

by **metalhead** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:45 am

I read a rumor that some senior players gave mascherano an angry talking to telling him how he disrespected his teammates,, fans and club. Wouldn't be surprised if carra gave him a nice talk

by **Thewaykokid** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:00 am

metalhead wrote:I read a rumor that some senior players gave mascherano an angry talking to telling him how he disrespected his teammates,, fans and club. Wouldn't be surprised if carra gave him a nice talk

good the kunt deserves it.....btw heard somewhere we might get an 18 mill offer plus hleb and Cáceres, any truth to this?

by **roberto green** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:10 am

I remember last season (when Rafa was still in a strong position) Javier saying he was looking forward to signing a new contract so It couldn't of been that bad for him here. Then a few months later Javier come out with shyte like "all I do in my spare time is stay indoors in my home because the weather is so cr@p and I look over to Insua house through the window and he looks over to me" Now don't get me wrong we had a awful winter last year weather wise but come on it wasn't that bad, I have heard that players for Russian and eastern Europe clubs cannot go out because it is -20c and too dangerous and are snow bound and we have an average of 8c through our winter, don't make me laugh mash, he made it sound as if he was in prison or something looking over to insua through his window.

No wonder the modern day footballer is becoming so Isolated from the working class man

by **tommycockles** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:19 am

roberto green wrote:I remember last season (when Rafa was still in a strong position) Javier saying he was looking forward to signing a new contract so It couldn't of been that bad for him here. Then a few months later Javier come out with shyte like "all I do in my spare time is stay indoors in my home because the weather is so cr@p and I look over to Insua house through the window and he looks over to me" Now don't get me wrong we had a awful winter last year weather wise but come on it wasn't that bad, I have heard that players for Russian and eastern Europe clubs cannot go out because it is -20c and too dangerous and are snow bound and we have an average of 8c through our winter, don't make me laugh mash, he made it sound as if he was in prison or something looking over to insua through his window.

No wonder the modern day footballer is becoming so Isolated from the working class man

poor guy, looking out of the window of his luxury mansion/apartment!! Now i feel really sorry for him!!

Not!

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:40 am

metalhead wrote:I read a rumor that some senior players gave mascherano an angry talking to telling him how he disrespected his teammates,, fans and club. Wouldn't be surprised if carra gave him a nice talk

would love to hear the comments

by **Kopite-Jud** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:05 pm

what a Fu#£in bell end what does he think he's doing! he ruined our tactics for Mondays game. This club made him who he is, doesnt realise how lucky he is playing for this club, i would play for this club for free week in week out and run till i could'nt walk anymore. now fu#£ off and bring in someone that actually wants to play for us and respect this massive football club. :angry:

by **Benny The Noon** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:08 pm

get rid - he has spoilt peoples memories of him . Thought better of him . :angry:

by **Bermenstein** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:47 pm

Hopefully a deal will go through in the next 24-48 hours to give Lpool a chance to bring in some new player or players with cash. Though I have a feeling this will roll on till deadline day. Nothing ever seems to go smooth for us.

by **maguskwt** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:04 pm

Bermenstein wrote:Hopefully a deal will go through in the next 24-48 hours to give Lpool a chance to bring in some new player or players with cash. Though I have a feeling this will roll on till deadline day. Nothing ever seems to go smooth for us.

Then the club needs to set a deadline for barca mate... offer 25 million by Friday or they can kiss Masch's :censored:

goodbye... and he can rot in the reserves for all we care... that's how we should play... one player is no bigger than the club...

BTW what do you guys think about Hleb and Martin Caceres for Masch? Caceres is a pretty flexible defender and can play CD, LB and RB. Was quite promising but I'm not sure about now. He seemed to be loaned out here and there and sustained some injuries while playing for Juv.

by **Bermenstein** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:27 pm

maguskwt wrote:
Bermenstein wrote:Hopefully a deal will go through in the next 24-48 hours to give Lpool a chance to bring in some new player or players with cash. Though I have a feeling this will roll on till deadline day. Nothing ever seems to go smooth for us.

Then the club needs to set a deadline for barca mate... offer 25 million by Friday or they can kiss Masch's goodbye... and he can rot in the reserves for all we care... that's how we should play... one player is no bigger than the club...

BTW what do you guys think about Hleb and Martin Caceres for Masch? Caceres is a pretty flexible defender and can play CD, LB and RB. Was quite promising but I'm not sure about now. He seemed to be loaned out here and there and sustained some injuries while playing for Juv.

I think the club would benefit from a straight cash deal instead of make weight players as part exchange.

Hleb is hot & cold and keeps his head down instaed of looking for the pass. I dont know much about Careces, but I'd be happy with a minimum of £20Mill for the apprentice with hair regrowth implants!!

by **Scottbot** » Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:46 pm

Bermenstein wrote:Hleb is hot & cold and keeps his head down instaed of looking for the pass. I dont know much about Careces, but I'd be happy with a minimum of £20Mill for the apprentice with hair regrowth implants!!

I disagree mate, the Hleb who played for Arsenal was an outstanding player. He's technically as good as Joe Cole, incredibally quick on the turn and a very good passer of the ball. You don't stay in Wenger's teams if you can't pass it. I don't know what sort of player he has become in the last 2 years plus he is 29 now but if he's 90% of what he was at Arsenal then I'd snap him up at £2-3 million of the Masch fee. With Aquilani gone we need another player with this type of skill-set and Hleb could fit the bill.

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