Taxi for Torres - judas fecks off to chelsea

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Postby rocky29 » Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:49 pm

so who have we got to fill in for nando. Ngog for fecksake. If roy doesnt get two strikers by next week i predict we are gona finish nowhere. And please not zamora roy!
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Postby PabloMedina28 » Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:12 pm

Id say he just shades it on GOD. I know Fowler got 30 plus 3 seasons on the run but he also took penalties, had 3 injury free seasons and played in a more attack minded team. I believe if all them points applied 2 Torres wed be lookn at a 40 goal a seaon striker. Just my opinion. On recent events i have 2 say i cant believe how paranoid the thread became personally i never had any doubt about his commitment and even if he did leave i believe like in Mascherano case we could actually strenghten the team with the money recieved

I read somewhere on here about him needing 2 win more titles 2 be compared 2 the great strikers that have in the past but 4 me its about comparing individuals not teams its not Torres fault Hunt or Ruch where playing in better teams. Its like saying Gerrard has 2 win more be4 u can compare him 2 Gary "wheres the cheese" Neville
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Postby devaney » Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:11 pm

bavlondon wrote:
bigmick wrote:I tell you this right now, if he's staying then I for one am feeling VERY upbeat about the way things are going. Lets look at it:

We've lost Benayoun, a player who has wanted away for a while, and gained Joe Cole who's a far better player. We've also gained 6 million quid, which hopefully we will spend on a good left back (my own preference is for Figuroa).

We've lost Riera, who I quite liked but was a bit of a ponce and whose head was far too square for his own good. We banked a bit of cash as well. We look like getting 5 mill for Insua which is top dollar, and we've invested it in this Danny Wilson kid, and we have a bit of change out of the whole proceedings. We've told Deggen to find a new club, we're thinking about doing the same witht he Greek and Maxi. No probs from me with any of that.

We're selling Masherano who I think is a disruptive influence. Hopefully we'll get top dollar and we can buy some players who actually want to play for us.

We've kept our best two players despite many predictions to the contrary.


Well done Roy, keep up the good work :buttrock .

Sorry but on Torres I don't think Roy had much of a say. If his own comments recently were anything to go by it was Purslow doing most of the talking.

The only reason Torres is staying is because he loves the club and wants to give it more time to sell to new owners, get better players in ect... and a new manager too. Hodgsen isn't a long term choice imo.

Let's keep away from the Rafa was wonderful Parry was an idiot scenarios and jaust say well done to all concerned if Torresdoes stay which is looking more likely.
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Postby rocky29 » Sat Jul 31, 2010 6:48 pm

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rocky29 wrote:and what happens to us if he has an injury plagued season. We are fecked then. We need 2 top strikers else we could see another season like the last one.

Hence me suggesting we give him 2-3 weeks to give him and us the best chance of seeing him for the rest of the season.

If he does have another injury ravaged season and, as a result of him not being fit we struggle, I think he will move on next summer due to frustration and we would be lucky to get £20m - £30m for him..!

that doesnt help us this season does it. I just hope roy isnt thinking ngog because he scored 2 goals against a pub team might think hes good enough. We need a tall tough target man with a proven goal record. Saying that theres such a shortage of top british strikers. Carlton cole or crouch zamora. Which one would ulot have.
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Postby tubby » Sat Jul 31, 2010 8:53 pm

I don't see how Crouch would come back. He left because he wasn't getting enough playing time so if Torres is fit then I can't imagine he will play much.
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Postby Zidane » Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:10 am

bavlondon wrote:I don't see how Crouch would come back. He left because he wasn't getting enough playing time so if Torres is fit then I can't imagine he will play much.

I think he's seen how often Torres is injured/needs a rest nowadays.. I think he'd get quite a few games if he did come back.
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Postby Owzat » Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:51 am

bavlondon wrote:I don't see how Crouch would come back. He left because he wasn't getting enough playing time so if Torres is fit then I can't imagine he will play much.

God no! Please no going back, especially not to Crouch :no Eight goals in 38 apps for spudz should say all that needs to be said, AND he'll be 30 in January not to mention the reasons I won't detail again but include his ability to give away fouls, the temptation to aim long balls at him and his near uselessness in the air (good on the ground if you give him space, granted)

Who next, Heskey? Baros? Cisse?
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Postby Owzat » Sun Aug 01, 2010 7:52 am

Zidane wrote:
bavlondon wrote:I don't see how Crouch would come back. He left because he wasn't getting enough playing time so if Torres is fit then I can't imagine he will play much.

I think he's seen how often Torres is injured/needs a rest nowadays.. I think he'd get quite a few games if he did come back.

If by that you're suggesting that Crouch won't get fed up sitting on the bench but Torres will be injured 19+ games per season, then let's buy a quality goalscorer not a substandard stand-in
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Postby The Good Yank » Sun Aug 01, 2010 8:13 am

Owzat wrote:
bavlondon wrote:I don't see how Crouch would come back. He left because he wasn't getting enough playing time so if Torres is fit then I can't imagine he will play much.

God no! Please no going back, especially not to Crouch :no Eight goals in 38 apps for spudz should say all that needs to be said, AND he'll be 30 in January not to mention the reasons I won't detail again but include his ability to give away fouls, the temptation to aim long balls at him and his near uselessness in the air (good on the ground if you give him space, granted)

Who next, Heskey? Baros? Cisse?

But, But, Crouch does the worst version of the Robot EVER. 


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Postby NANNY RED » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:16 am

FERNANDO TORRES will quit Liverpool for Chelsea if they flop again this *season.

That’s according to the striker’s pal and fellow Spain superstar David Villa.


World Cup goal ace Villa claims the Blues would have snatched Torres, 26, this summer if *Liverpool had not put a sky-high price on his head.


He said: “I am actually a little surprised. It looks like Nando is staying. After I spoke with him at the World Cup I thought he would sign for Chelsea.


“I think it must only be that Chelsea did not meet Liverpool’s valuation. Because, if they had, I am sure he would have made the move.”


But Villa warned that *failure to win silverware or reach the Champions League would spell the end of the frustrated frontman’s career at Anfield.


Villa says Torres, who has scored 56 league goals in three seasons since joining Liverpool from his boyhood club Atletico Madrid, won’t stay at a club that cannot match his ambition.


Barcelona star Villa, 28, said: “The only reason Nando ever left his beloved Atletico was because he knew he had to be at a club where he could win the highest honours – but that has not happened at Liverpool.


“I loved Valencia but I knew I had to leave if I wanted to win the biggest prizes in football.


“This is Liverpool’s last chance to keep him. They have to prove they are *capable of challenging on all fronts this season, otherwise he will be gone.”


Villa insisted his friend is not motivated by money but needs to make the most of his enormous talent.


He said: “Torres is happy at *Liverpool in every sense apart from the football. He loves the city, the fans and the players but he is the best striker in the world. He will go if he has to.


“He would not sign for *Manchester City because, for him, the money is not the most important thing.


“But if Liverpool fail to win anything I am sure he will be at Chelsea next summer.”


And he claims Torres feels let down after former boss Rafa *Benitez failed to put together a team that could match the *Premier League’s best.


“He was promised things at *Liverpool that just haven’t *happened,” Villa added.
“They said they would build a squad that would challenge *Manchester United for the title – and it just hasn’t happened.


“They sold Xabi Alonso last year and are going to sell Javier Mascherano this summer.


“I can totally understand Nando’s frustration.


“The best all-round striker in the world isn’t playing in the *European Cup during his peak years and that’s just not right.


“If the new coach and players win something then I am sure he will stay.


“If not, I am sure he will go and nobody could blame him.”
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Postby Dundalk » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:21 am

"I am actually a little surprised. It looks like Nando is staying," Villa is quoted as saying by the Daily Star Sunday.

"After I spoke with him at the World Cup I thought he would sign for Chelsea.

"I think it must only be that Chelsea did not meet Liverpool's valuation. Because, if they had, I am sure he would have made the move."

He added: "This is Liverpool's last chance to keep him. They have to prove they are capable of challenging on all fronts this season, otherwise he will be gone.

"If Liverpool fail to win anything I am sure he will be at Chelsea next summer."





Thats the part that annoys me


If this is true then Torres had his mind made up that he was going to Chelsea   :no
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Postby bigmick » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:26 am

I wouldn't be too harsh on him, he was obviously considering his position despite what some head in the sanders on here were trying to pretend. I said at the time and it predictably kicked off in the aftermath, if you don't finish in the Champions League places you run the risk of losing your best players. If it wasn't for the financial demise of Portsmouth, we wouldn't even have made the Europa League Cup such was the debacle that was last season, so it's not surprising he was getting itchy feet really.

I know it's controversial to say it, and I have nothing but hunch value to base it on, but Torres along with Gerrard are on my list of players who would have agitated even further for a move if we hadn't changed the manager.
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Postby Dundalk » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:27 am

bigmick wrote:I wouldn't be too harsh on him, he was obviously considering his position despite what some head in the sanders on here were trying to pretend. I said at the time and it predictably kicked off in the aftermath, if you don't finish in the Champions League places you run the risk of losing your best players. If it wasn't for the financial demise of Portsmouth, we wouldn't even have made the Europa League Cup such was the debacle that was last season, so it's not surprising he was getting itchy feet really.

I know it's controversial to say it, and I have nothing but hunch value to base it on, but Torres along with Gerrard are on my list of players who would have agitated even further for a move if we hadn't changed the manager.

I agree with that
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Postby shawnk » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:29 am

Dundalk wrote:"I am actually a little surprised. It looks like Nando is staying," Villa is quoted as saying by the Daily Star Sunday.

"After I spoke with him at the World Cup I thought he would sign for Chelsea.

"I think it must only be that Chelsea did not meet Liverpool's valuation. Because, if they had, I am sure he would have made the move."

He added: "This is Liverpool's last chance to keep him. They have to prove they are capable of challenging on all fronts this season, otherwise he will be gone.

"If Liverpool fail to win anything I am sure he will be at Chelsea next summer."





Thats the part that annoys me


If this is true then Torres had his mind made up that he was going to Chelsea   :no

Or because Nando is disappointed with the lack of world class players he was hoping for and openly talked about.
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Postby roberto green » Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:35 am

bigmick wrote:I wouldn't be too harsh on him, he was obviously considering his position despite what some head in the sanders on here were trying to pretend. I said at the time and it predictably kicked off in the aftermath, if you don't finish in the Champions League places you run the risk of losing your best players. If it wasn't for the financial demise of Portsmouth, we wouldn't even have made the Europa League Cup such was the debacle that was last season, so it's not surprising he was getting itchy feet really.

I know it's controversial to say it, and I have nothing but hunch value to base it on, but Torres along with Gerrard are on my list of players who would have agitated even further for a move if we hadn't changed the manager.

Bang on.

Anyway even Stevie was closer too joining them than this so I would very much take it with a pinch of salt the main thing is hes's staying
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