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Postby Thommo's perm » Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:46 pm

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Postby aCe' » Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:02 pm

LFC2007 wrote:Spain U-19s have a CM/DM called Thiago Alcantara, plays for Barca aparently. Very, very good prospect from what I've seen - bossed the game against England, and a player part-exchange possibility if Barca come in for Masch. There's also an attacking midfielder called Iker Muniain who's only 17 and plays for Bilbao who I like the look of; in fact most of them with the exception of the LB, the two CBs and a bloke called "Romeo" looked very good. Blitzing the competition this lot are and I think at least a couple of them will be big names in 3-4 years time.

Agree... Rochina and their captain (Kiko is it ?) are the picks of the bunch for me though... Both very confident on the ball for their age..
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Postby burjennio » Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:09 pm

Muniain is supposes to be THE next big thing coming up through the Spainish youth set up after Canales so there is flippin no chance he's signing with us!
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Postby LFC2007 » Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:21 pm

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LFC2007 wrote:Spain U-19s have a CM/DM called Thiago Alcantara, plays for Barca aparently. Very, very good prospect from what I've seen - bossed the game against England, and a player part-exchange possibility if Barca come in for Masch. There's also an attacking midfielder called Iker Muniain who's only 17 and plays for Bilbao who I like the look of; in fact most of them with the exception of the LB, the two CBs and a bloke called "Romeo" looked very good. Blitzing the competition this lot are and I think at least a couple of them will be big names in 3-4 years time.

Agree... Rochina and their captain (Kiko is it ?) are the picks of the bunch for me though... Both very confident on the ball for their age..

Keko. Good player.

I believe they have a sub called "Koke", as well.  :D
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Postby Igor Zidane » Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:23 pm

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Anyway i thought all the players wanted to get a way from rafa , not friggin sign for him again


Igor :D you put a smile on my face.

You as well as a couple of others want the "digs" to stop, you've said so yourself countless times. I think though you've said this or more occasions than I can remember because you don't like having your noses rubbed in it. I.E there is life after Rafa, we can attract players like Joey Cole, Gerrard and Torres will remain at the club and Roy isn't a yes man. All these things that have happened in the last few weeks contradict everything you and your bezzies had people believe if Rafa ever left. You've had to be quiet and bite your lip recently because you couldn't imagine someone else coming in a doing a decent job, hell it got that desperate Roy's holiday destination was used to dismiss his footballing credentials. Therefore it doesn't surprise me that while all this positive stuff is going on you want the digs to stop, because at the end of the day you've got no digs to throw back. Until this little beaut about Masha pops up and true as the 'pro' you are, you clutch at a straw and throw it out. :D

You worry far to much lash , glad i make you smile though . You treat it like it's some sort of competition . It was not a dig it was a statement , there was supposedly so much disharmony in the dressing room last season all the players were laeving unless rafa was sacked . Now if you don't like the fact that this patently wasn't true (like the torres having a problem with rafa one aswell ) you don't need to turn it into some sort of lets have a f.uckin dig at each other comp . Yer need to get your facts right . Where will i be first game of the season . I'll be on the Kop supporting the manager and players . Where it counts ffs , not on some internet forum , bitching like a feckin tart that's lost her feckin handebag .
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Postby In and Out » Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:32 pm

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Anyway i thought all the players wanted to get a way from rafa , not friggin sign for him again


Igor :D you put a smile on my face.

You as well as a couple of others want the "digs" to stop, you've said so yourself countless times. I think though you've said this or more occasions than I can remember because you don't like having your noses rubbed in it. I.E there is life after Rafa, we can attract players like Joey Cole, Gerrard and Torres will remain at the club and Roy isn't a yes man. All these things that have happened in the last few weeks contradict everything you and your bezzies had people believe if Rafa ever left. You've had to be quiet and bite your lip recently because you couldn't imagine someone else coming in a doing a decent job, hell it got that desperate Roy's holiday destination was used to dismiss his footballing credentials. Therefore it doesn't surprise me that while all this positive stuff is going on you want the digs to stop, because at the end of the day you've got no digs to throw back. Until this little beaut about Masha pops up and true as the 'pro' you are, you clutch at a straw and throw it out. :D

You worry far to much lash , glad i make you smile though . You treat it like it's some sort of competition . It was not a dig it was a statement , there was supposedly so much disharmony in the dressing room last season all the players were laeving unless rafa was sacked . Now if you don't like the fact that this patently wasn't true (like the torres having a problem with rafa one aswell ) you don't need to turn it into some sort of lets have a f.uckin dig at each other comp . Yer need to get your facts right . Where will i be first game of the season . I'll be on the Kop supporting the manager and players . Where it counts ffs , not on some internet forum , bitching like a feckin tart that's lost her feckin handebag .

Clutch at straws if it makes you feel better.

Stand on the KOP you are the bestest supporter, is that why the atmos inside Anfield is "shabite" or are you going to blame that on the OOters you so desperately want to sign up at SOS. They're good for something at least, not going to footie matches though but sticking their hands in their pockets.
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Postby tubby » Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:37 pm

In and Out wrote:
Igor Zidane wrote:
In and Out wrote:
Anyway i thought all the players wanted to get a way from rafa , not friggin sign for him again


Igor :D you put a smile on my face.

You as well as a couple of others want the "digs" to stop, you've said so yourself countless times. I think though you've said this or more occasions than I can remember because you don't like having your noses rubbed in it. I.E there is life after Rafa, we can attract players like Joey Cole, Gerrard and Torres will remain at the club and Roy isn't a yes man. All these things that have happened in the last few weeks contradict everything you and your bezzies had people believe if Rafa ever left. You've had to be quiet and bite your lip recently because you couldn't imagine someone else coming in a doing a decent job, hell it got that desperate Roy's holiday destination was used to dismiss his footballing credentials. Therefore it doesn't surprise me that while all this positive stuff is going on you want the digs to stop, because at the end of the day you've got no digs to throw back. Until this little beaut about Masha pops up and true as the 'pro' you are, you clutch at a straw and throw it out. :D

You worry far to much lash , glad i make you smile though . You treat it like it's some sort of competition . It was not a dig it was a statement , there was supposedly so much disharmony in the dressing room last season all the players were laeving unless rafa was sacked . Now if you don't like the fact that this patently wasn't true (like the torres having a problem with rafa one aswell ) you don't need to turn it into some sort of lets have a f.uckin dig at each other comp . Yer need to get your facts right . Where will i be first game of the season . I'll be on the Kop supporting the manager and players . Where it counts ffs , not on some internet forum , bitching like a feckin tart that's lost her feckin handebag .

Clutch at straws if it makes you feel better.

Stand on the KOP you are the bestest supporter, is that why the atmos inside Anfield is "shabite" or are you going to blame that on the OOters you so desperately want to sign up at SOS. They're good for something at least, not going to footie matches though but sticking their hands in their pockets.

That's a pretty pathetic thing to say. If it were not for the worldwide support LFC has do you think they would have had so many top class players as it it does now?   :laugh: Everything counts. It's probably because of people like you that SOS isn't bigger.
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Postby supersub » Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:01 pm

Thommo's perm wrote:Rats, sh'ithouses and wasters will leave
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That opinion depends on who you are, apparently.....

quote from a member only a few weeks ago:

Nobody really can begrudge him the move, it always seemed inevitable. Good luck Gerrard, I hope you get the league title you crave for.

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Postby bigmick » Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:07 pm

supersub wrote:
Thommo's perm wrote:Rats, sh'ithouses and wasters will leave
:nod

That opinion depends on who you are, apparently.....

quote from a member only a few weeks ago:

Nobody really can begrudge him the move, it always seemed inevitable. Good luck Gerrard, I hope you get the league title you crave for.

:D

It's a fair point mate, (I wasn't the one who said it I don't think), but there's a big difference between Gerrard and Masherano. I honestly think if Gerrard had gone, most fans wouldn't have begrudged him having a go in Spain for the last few years of his career. He's absolutely given his all for the club, and lets be honest for much of his career has carried us on his back.

Masherano on the other hand is much more selfish. I really like him as a player, I rate him as highly as anyone, but he is much more mercenary in the way he goes about things.

I don't particularly begrudge him a move either, but it's only natural that most fans give Gerrard a lot more leeway than the Argentine.
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Postby In and Out » Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:10 pm

There is a BIG difference between Gerrard and Mascherano when put into context.
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Postby tubby » Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:30 pm

I always liked his passion. Especially after a big win or a goal he would celebrate like we had just won a cup.

But to be honest my feelings towards him changed when he tried to engineer a move away to Barca. He spent the 1st half of season moping and when scoring in the Europa league he still had the cheek to kiss the badge. I actually felt like giving him a slap after that. :D

Anyway best of luck to him at Inter. What I don't get is if he loves Rafa so much why did he try to move to Barca?
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Postby bigmick » Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:32 pm

bavlondon wrote:What I don't get is if he loves Rafa so much why did he try to move to Barca?

That's easy mate, he doesn't  :laugh: .
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Postby andy_g » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:14 pm

people seem to be overly simplifying arguments for the sake of personal point scoring. everyone, pro or anti or whatever, must have got the feeling that there was seem degree of disharmony in the dressing room last season, but that it was highly unlikely that every single player wanted shot of him. mascherano is obviously one of the players who liked rafa, as i'm sure were kuyt and lucas and i'm sure quite a few others.

its not so weird that he was angling for a move to barca last season 'despite his love for rafa' either. he had no idea that rafa would be out this summer and he was getting overtures from spain. he wasn't happy with either the club or life in the uk for whatever reasons and it looked like his best bet for a change. now rafa is at inter and he sees that as his best chance to switch clubs. the fact that a manager he knows and respects is boss there is an added bonus for him.
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Postby Igor Zidane » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:17 pm

In and Out wrote:
Igor Zidane wrote:
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Anyway i thought all the players wanted to get a way from rafa , not friggin sign for him again


Igor :D you put a smile on my face.

You as well as a couple of others want the "digs" to stop, you've said so yourself countless times. I think though you've said this or more occasions than I can remember because you don't like having your noses rubbed in it. I.E there is life after Rafa, we can attract players like Joey Cole, Gerrard and Torres will remain at the club and Roy isn't a yes man. All these things that have happened in the last few weeks contradict everything you and your bezzies had people believe if Rafa ever left. You've had to be quiet and bite your lip recently because you couldn't imagine someone else coming in a doing a decent job, hell it got that desperate Roy's holiday destination was used to dismiss his footballing credentials. Therefore it doesn't surprise me that while all this positive stuff is going on you want the digs to stop, because at the end of the day you've got no digs to throw back. Until this little beaut about Masha pops up and true as the 'pro' you are, you clutch at a straw and throw it out. :D

You worry far to much lash , glad i make you smile though . You treat it like it's some sort of competition . It was not a dig it was a statement , there was supposedly so much disharmony in the dressing room last season all the players were laeving unless rafa was sacked . Now if you don't like the fact that this patently wasn't true (like the torres having a problem with rafa one aswell ) you don't need to turn it into some sort of lets have a f.uckin dig at each other comp . Yer need to get your facts right . Where will i be first game of the season . I'll be on the Kop supporting the manager and players . Where it counts ffs , not on some internet forum , bitching like a feckin tart that's lost her feckin handebag .

Clutch at straws if it makes you feel better.

Stand on the KOP you are the bestest supporter, is that why the atmos inside Anfield is "shabite" or are you going to blame that on the OOters you so desperately want to sign up at SOS. They're good for something at least, not going to footie matches though but sticking their hands in their pockets.

:laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh: Who said anything about oots and who the feck said anything about SOS . Look who's clutching at straws now . Stop it yer feckin showin yourself up for what you really are . Hey guess what mate , i support LFC and guess ewhat else i'm a member of SOS . You find one post of mine that slags oots or ooc's and i'll get my account on this forum removed . I won't come back under a different name like some :censored: either.

Why would you make this an OOT issue or an SOS issue even? What would make you want to do that i wonder?
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Postby In and Out » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:20 pm

The same as you making petty digs all over the place Igor especially as you were one of the ones who wanted the digs stopped.

As for supporting LFC, I'm sorry but I always got the impression it was Rafa FC you supported.
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