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by **Redman in wales** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:54 am

The Premier League will introduce a new quota system from next season which will order clubs to have a 25-man squad limit and no more than 17 players can be over the age of 21 and not home-grown.

The Premier League rules mean that as long as youngsters under the age of 21 have been trained by the clubs then they count as home-grown, such as Cesc Fabregas who joined Arsenal at 16.

by **stmichael** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:56 am

mart wrote:Why spend 2 mill + wages on a 31 year old player when we got arguably a better player to play backup RB in Kelly? A player that has every chance of improving too, unlike Young.

Young is more likely to be LB cover, and if he hated it at Villa....

Kelly's injury record is poor, although I do rate him. Darby on the other hand just isn't good enough to make it imo and never will be at this level.

by **puroresu** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:04 am

Greavesie wrote:
Tbh i am not sure exactly what the ruling is - does anyone know ?

I don't either mate, but its probably bullsh!t

I don't even understand what purpose its meant to serve to be perfectly honest

nothing but a knee jerk reaction the criticism of the lack of home grown talent. It makes no sense and will change nothing in the long term.

The SPL intoduced a ruling years ago where teams must have at least 3 outfield players under 21 in the matchday squad. Has this ruling changed anything for the better. No. It just forces teams to pick players for the sake of it regardless whether they are actually good enough.

by **Greavesie** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:08 am

thats what I was thinking. One of the lads at work agrees with it and said it would develop players in the national side. I have two points in response to that
1 - who gives a flying donald duck about the national side?
2 - it will lower the quality of football in the country by forcing teams to use sub-standard players

it serves no purpose in my opinion other than a means to control. It must be p!ssing City right off thouogh

by **LittleHobo** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:14 am

Greavesie wrote:right, letsput the thread back on track and leave the agenda sh!te at the door

is Young good enough for LFC?
is he a decent back up?
is the fee reasonable for a player of his calibre?
where/how often do you think he will be used?
is this an indicator of the quality of players Roy is looking at?

course hes decent back up

hes a solid full back, far more solid than degen

2 million and hes an ok signing.......as long as he aint gonna be first team

by **mart** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:14 am

stmichael wrote:
mart wrote:Why spend 2 mill + wages on a 31 year old player when we got arguably a better player to play backup RB in Kelly? A player that has every chance of improving too, unlike Young.

Young is more likely to be LB cover, and if he hated it at Villa....

Kelly's injury record is poor, although I do rate him. Darby on the other hand just isn't good enough to make it imo and never will be at this level.

Is he really old enough to have a "injury record"?

I dont think much of darby either but its enough to have kelly.

by **In and Out** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:20 am

Igor Zidane wrote:Get rid of two left backs and there wages for a fee of £5miilion possilbly . Sign one 31 year old right back journey man for £2million say (who can play left back ) . Deffo christie lar has got his mitts all over this . Asset stripping at it's best, it all goes towards paying the debt ladies and gents . Meanwhile the fans say "well atleast gerrard and torres are staying ,oh and we signed joe cole " Marvelous .

Well it could have been worse, Torres and Gerrard could have walked, Cole may have never signed and Luke Young could have been our star summer signing.

Well, I apologise for being grateful that our new manager has been able to hold on to our two best assets and that another potential game breaker of their ilk has been signed.

Asset stripping at it's best would be flogging off Nando Gerrard and signing Zoltan Gera instead the lucrative wages J.Cole is on. Hardly asset stripping, more like balancing the books and shipping out the rats.

by **Ben Patrick** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:21 am

Greavesie wrote:thats what I was thinking. One of the lads at work agrees with it and said it would develop players in the national side. I have two points in response to that
1 - who gives a flying donald duck about the national side?
2 - it will lower the quality of football in the country by forcing teams to use sub-standard players

it serves no purpose in my opinion other than a means to control. It must be p!ssing City right off thouogh

Well i disagree.

If we have a bench of 7 these days and you cant just load it up with foreign players that are also not good enough, you will have to give some of the younger players a space on the bench virtually every week.
These players would invariably end up getting more playing time and that without a shadow of a doubt improves them.
We had a bench last season that at times had the likes of Dossena, Degen and other sh!te foreign signings who did get playing time. This was instead of having some of the younger promising players on there.

I am not having the 'if your good enough you will come through' as although that's the case. I feel that alot of the younger players that are ignored or should i say underused, are good enough to be squad players and come on every now and then.
Lets be honest they wouldnt have done any worse than the likes of Dossena, Degen, Voronin etc etc etc.

by **Roger Red Hat** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:22 am

he'll be just signing Luke Young up as back up for the £10m rated left back we're about to sign - watch this space :;):

by **Greavesie** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:24 am

just out of curiousity is there a similar rule in Germany when it comes to squads? their league seems pretty sound and in terms of talent it isn't exactly suffering

by **NANNY RED** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:24 am

Do you know whats making me laugh , some of yous have been going on and on about getting rid of our dead wood and yet its ok now that were bringing in another piece, let me ask you this , would he have been a good signing last season or would the managers sanity have been called into question because i certainly would have wanted him to get his head checked out, We have got enough cover for right back and with the lad Wilson coming in an all gives us plenty of options, This money should be going towards aleft back , simple . Villa paid i think between 2-3 million for him get there money back of us, we wont make a penny

by **Greavesie** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:25 am

I can just imagine this place if he was signed last summer

by **SouthCoastShankly** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:25 am

NANNY RED wrote:
Greavesie wrote:right, letsput the thread back on track and leave the agenda sh!te at the door

is Young good enough for LFC?
is he a decent back up?
is the fee reasonable for a player of his calibre?
where/how often do you think he will be used?
is this an indicator of the quality of players Roy is looking at?

1 no
2 no
3 no
4 dont know
5 yes

How is this an indication of the quality of players Hodgson aims to sign.

Joe Cole is a world class player, great signing.
Jovanovic is an unknown to a certain extent but still a world cup striker.

Just because we're linked with a premier league squad player for the left back role, how is it the conversation always swings back to Hodgson making bad decisions.

It would be nice to the same good faith being shown to Hodgson as was shown to Benitez in his first year.

by **Greavesie** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:28 am

only Joe Cole so far has been signed by Hodgson isn't it? the other two were pretty much done weren't they?

and Cole was a pretty obvious player to approach given his situation - not that I'm taking a side either way here like

by **In and Out** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:34 am

Greavesie wrote:only Joe Cole so far has been signed by Hodgson isn't it? the other two were pretty much done weren't they?

and Cole was a pretty obvious player to approach given his situation - not that I'm taking a side either way here like

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