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Postby JoeTerp » Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:34 pm

Owzat wrote:Russian doll! Russian doll! Quick mods, bump the thread back up! :laugh:

Agree with Puroresu, it is hard to get excited by signing 30+ year olds and spending £2m+ on them when they are at best journeymen footballers. And to pick up on other "observations" :

- he's English. So f in what? I think a few people need to get their heads round the whole homegrown player ruling because even Citeh shouldn't be that bothered by it. I mean what hardship they might suffer IF they have to sell seven players. Arsenal must be laughing at people who knocked them for lacking English players with the new rule imminent since players like Fabregas, Denilson, Song and Bendtner qualify as homegrown! It has more holes in it than swiss cheese as rules go

- Kyrgiakos is old and look how he worked out. What so we should buy Young because a signing worked out ok playing limited games and of course Young is English. Wow! I thought we tried to sign good players at a good price, preferably under 30 and if they're English then that's a bonus. We don't watch out then Woy could turn us into Fulham and have an ageing squad of decent players but nothing special. If people want rid of Lucas, Insua, N'Gog and Babel then what is our youth? Nemeth and Pacheco who may or may not make it? Cole is 28, Young 31, Jovanovic 29 and while Wilson and Shelvey may be very young, they are also unproven because of it - especially in a decent top flight league

there is absolutely no reason to worry about not having all 8 homegrown players.  You are allowed 17 foreign players and all the U21 players you want.  A club could get by with this alone.  But we already have Gerrard, Carra, Johnson, and Cole, which puts us on pretty solid footing for the year as far as the rule is concerned.   

I think a much bigger problem is the quality of some of our foreigners (i.e Degen, Plessis, El Zhar not the (lack of) quantity in homegrown players.
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Postby Ben Patrick » Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:40 pm

LFC2007 wrote:1) Martin Kelly is our best defensive prospect since Steven Warnock and it's time for him to be an understudy to a first teamer. Carragher did it (albeit in different positions), Jonny Evans and Rafael have done it, and the latter two have been absolutely lauded by some on here. Kelly can be our equivalent.

2) Even if he - Young - might be decent general defensive cover, the squad has more pressing needs at both LB (a proper one), and up front. I'd sooner see the £2.75m - plus a spot on the wage bill - concentrated where it is needed most, instead of filling the squad with "options and possibilities", which we don't like, or do we?  :laugh:

Exactly the point i have been trying to make.

I hate average squad players filling up the bench and taking potential opportunities away from promising players.
We want everything here and now as football fans these days.

How are these young lads ever going to gain the experience to blossom into the players we hope they will be if we keep signing players like Young ?
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Postby In and Out » Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:47 pm

People may wish to see 2.7M spent better here or there, bottom line is nobody knows how much money we've got to spend. So Roy still may be able to go and get a LB and a striker, so we should wait and see what happens before crucifying him on a mill spent here and a mill spent there.
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Postby maguskwt » Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:48 pm

In and Out wrote:People may wish to see 2.7M spent better here or there, bottom line is nobody knows how much money we've got to spend. So Roy still may be able to go and get a LB and a striker, so we should wait and see what happens before crucifying him on a mill spent here and a mill spent there.

whatever the case is it's not money well spent... doesn't matter if we still can get another LB and Striker...
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Postby SouthCoastShankly » Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:49 pm

maguskwt wrote:
SouthCoastShankly wrote:The exact same thing was said when Gary McAllister was signed by Houllier.

"Too old"
"Past it"
"Not good enough for Liverpool"

Turned out to be a legend. Experiences pay some times. Not saying that Young will be the next McAllister in terms of impact but I'm willing to trust Hodgson if he thinks he can do a job.

Oh come ON  :laugh:

comparing Gary Mac and Luke  young....  :no

I not comparing them on ability rather the signing.

I guess you thought the McAllister signing was spot on at the time...

cue the bullsh!t
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Postby 7_Kewell » Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:50 pm

thing is, for all his faults, Luke Young is better than Insua.
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Postby maguskwt » Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:54 pm

SouthCoastShankly wrote:
maguskwt wrote:Oh come ON  :laugh:

comparing Gary Mac and Luke  young....  :no

I not comparing them on ability rather the signing.

I guess you thought the McAllister signing was spot on at the time...

cue the bullsh!t

:laugh:  :laugh:

cue the :censored:...  :laugh: ... what's next week's winning lottery numbers ya high and mighty all seing being?  :laugh:
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Postby In and Out » Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:54 pm

maguskwt wrote:
In and Out wrote:People may wish to see 2.7M spent better here or there, bottom line is nobody knows how much money we've got to spend. So Roy still may be able to go and get a LB and a striker, so we should wait and see what happens before crucifying him on a mill spent here and a mill spent there.

whatever the case is it's not money well spent... doesn't matter if we still can get another LB and Striker...

If Roy feels it's money well spent on a squad player then I suppose you're gonna have to lump it.
Football is a relatively simple game and Roy knows it ;)
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Postby maguskwt » Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:54 pm

7_Kewell wrote:thing is, for all his faults, Luke Young is better than Insua.

So what? Insua is Left Back, Luke Young is Right Back...
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Postby maguskwt » Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:58 pm

I've actually been pleasantly surprised by Roy so far... but if he did sign Luke Young, I wonder whether he's starting to show his true colours...
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Postby In and Out » Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:59 pm

maguskwt wrote:I've actually been pleasantly surprised by Roy so far... but if he did sign Luke Young, I wonder whether he's starting to show his true colours...

Which are ole oracle?
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Postby 7_Kewell » Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:00 pm

maguskwt wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:thing is, for all his faults, Luke Young is better than Insua.

So what? Insua is Left Back, Luke Young is Right Back...

Young can play left or right.

As a back up he's OK. would prefer to spend less on him, but he'll be a useful back up player.
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Postby maguskwt » Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:01 pm

In and Out wrote:
maguskwt wrote:I've actually been pleasantly surprised by Roy so far... but if he did sign Luke Young, I wonder whether he's starting to show his true colours...

Which are ole oracle?

Oh I wouldn't know ask the high and mighty all seing being SouthCoastShankly  :laugh:
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Postby maguskwt » Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:05 pm

7_Kewell wrote:Young can play left or right.

As a back up he's OK. would prefer to spend less on him, but he'll be a useful back up player.

Useful backup? only thing is that we've got useful back-ups in Darby and Kelly which we don't need to pay a single cent...
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Postby Redman in wales » Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:07 pm

LFC2007 wrote:1) Martin Kelly is our best defensive prospect since Steven Warnock and it's time for him to be an understudy to a first teamer. Carragher did it (albeit in different positions), Jonny Evans and Rafael have done it, and the latter two have been absolutely lauded by some on here. Kelly can be our equivalent.

2) Even if he - Young - might be decent general defensive cover, the squad has more pressing needs at both LB (a proper one), and up front. I'd sooner see the £2.75m - plus a spot on the wage bill - concentrated where it is needed most, instead of filling the squad with "options and possibilities", which we don't like, or do we?  :laugh:

^ this.

Every manager makes bad signings, and I think this will be one of Roy's if it comes to fruition. Not needed imo, and money / wages can be better spent elsewhere
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