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by **dawson99** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:31 am

It is starting to get a bit worrying now, and the longer it is dragged on the less chance we have of getting a replacement should the unthinkable happen.

by **NANNY RED** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:31 am

His tie it proved he was a red TORRES TORRES

at his sisters wedding the other day, Hes staying :;):

by **Thewaykokid** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:32 am

anyone got any clue what possible "beef" with the club he could have?

by **NANNY RED** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:35 am

Thewaykokid wrote:anyone got any clue what possible "beef" with the club he could have?

He asked for Silver and got brought plastic.

He wants top class players brought into the team ,

by **teamleader1** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:38 am

The Good Yank wrote:
teamleader1 wrote:How many games does he go more than ten minutes before being clattered from behind by some big hairy arsed defender? and then spends the rest of the game sulking and complaining to the ref about it?

Just for a moment try to remember that Torres was the captain of his team when he played in Spain. Yes he bit his tongue the first two years, but you know what, there comes a time when a player needs to stick up for himself.

I think your eyes need checking if you think Torres sulked too much after a ref didn't award a foul. Yes, Torres might have been in the ref's ear for the rest of the match, but unfortunately that seems to be part of the game now.

Hell watch a Scum game and have your pick over which one of Fletcher, Rooney, Giggs, Scholes, Ferdinand, are giving the ref the most? I'm not saying it's right, Just consider that Torres plays for a club who's Captain isn't exactly known for his vocal support. Torres is just trying to protect himself when it comes to moaning towards the refs.

The fact that he plays for LFC and is no longer captain of AM is the here and now, and is all I'm concerned with.
Do you really think I don't want to go and watch a player of his class in a red shirt?
What I'm saying is that all things considered there are question marks over him that don't sit well with me.
As for comparing his sulking, for me there's a difference because with Nando it seemed to put him right off his game and he was as good as a man down at times.
But most of all hes NOT committed to the club in this bad time, and we need players who want to roll their sleeves up and get us back in the mix.
So for me, the unthinkable has to be seriously considered for the greater good.

by **Thewaykokid** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:41 am

NANNY RED wrote:
Thewaykokid wrote:anyone got any clue what possible "beef" with the club he could have?

He asked for Silver and got brought plastic.

He wants top class players brought into the team ,

Even so, we still have to work harder to keep our stars.

I think it was Roy himself who said if fernando leaves, the damage could be done before he had the chance, and i agree in all honestly. And for the record, i don't believe any player is bigger than a club, but to me, letting go of stars is almost a symbolism for the downfall of a club, which is exactly what every player in that dressing room would be thinking if he walks.

by **Owzat** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:56 am

NANNY RED wrote:
Thewaykokid wrote:anyone got any clue what possible "beef" with the club he could have?

He asked for Silver and got brought plastic.

He wants top class players brought into the team ,

Could be that, maybe that the club got rid of Rafa, could be he asked for a pay rise or some contractual wrangling, could be anything

by **europian-kings** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:57 am

When is he back to training?
Seems to be dragging out so much as of late

by **NANNY RED** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:09 am

Owzat wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:
Thewaykokid wrote:anyone got any clue what possible "beef" with the club he could have?

He asked for Silver and got brought plastic.

He wants top class players brought into the team ,

Could be that, maybe that the club got rid of Rafa, could be he asked for a pay rise or some contractual wrangling, could be anything

Dont think its got anything to do with Rafa tbh, I remember when he signed his new contract he wanted assurances that top quality players were gonna be brought in . Im just annoyed that its Christie doing all the talking to him, someone who knows nothing about football, and its not Roy talking to him, selling him his ideas on what he wants and how he wants the team to go,

by **Owzat** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:12 am

NANNY RED wrote:Dont think its got anything to do with Rafa tbh, I remember when he signed his new contract he wanted assurances that top quality players were gonna be brought in . Im just annoyed that its Christie doing all the talking to him, someone who knows nothing about football, and its not Roy talking to him, selling him his ideas on what he wants and how he wants the team to go,

Could well be, just putting out a few more suggestions as I doubt the list of possibilities is limitless. He might just be hacked off with the whole situation, being injured, Rafa shoved out the door, cr ap signings last season and finishing seventh as a comedown from Runners-Up as well as decent but no 'trophy' signings as yet.

Surely if it was concern over signings then he'd have it out and hand in a transfer request though.................... Sulking won't get him anywhere, he either is happy with the signings or wants a move if that is an/the issue

by **lakes10** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:20 am

Thewaykokid wrote:anyone got any clue what possible "beef" with the club he could have?

he was told that money was to be spent on new players last year and felt that the players taken to the club were poor. He felt that he was not used in the right way and felt that he had to play other roles to fill missing gaps.
he felt missunderstood by the manager and felt the club did not help him.

on the other side to this the club did deal with he thing about the manager.

by **teamleader1** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:24 am

NANNY RED wrote:

Dont think its got anything to do with Rafa tbh, I remember when he signed his new contract he wanted assurances that top quality players were gonna be brought in . Im just annoyed that its Christie doing all the talking to him, someone who knows nothing about football, and its not Roy talking to him, selling him his ideas on what he wants and how he wants the team to go,[/quote]

He will be under no illusions of where the club stands at the moment
I don't believe for a minute that he hasn't spoken to the likes of SG, Carra and Pepe
The fact that he wont come out and commit speaks volumes for me, we have a new manager and the club is up for sale.
In my eyes if hes not willing to give us at least another season at this time, then his real value lies in the £60ml we could get for him.

by **maguskwt** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:29 am

NANNY RED wrote:
Owzat wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:
Thewaykokid wrote:anyone got any clue what possible "beef" with the club he could have?

He asked for Silver and got brought plastic.

He wants top class players brought into the team ,

Could be that, maybe that the club got rid of Rafa, could be he asked for a pay rise or some contractual wrangling, could be anything

Dont think its got anything to do with Rafa tbh, I remember when he signed his new contract he wanted assurances that top quality players were gonna be brought in . Im just annoyed that its Christie doing all the talking to him, someone who knows nothing about football, and its not Roy talking to him, selling him his ideas on what he wants and how he wants the team to go,

That's right nanny, From the look of it his main beef is that the squad wasn't strengthened. I read somewhere that promises have been broken. Don't think it's wage issue to be honest because he signed a new contract only last year. That is when 'promises' were made probably. If wage was the issue he wouldn't have signed the contract extension. When we spent less than we recouped for two consec seasons that's probably when he got disenchanted with the club... Sounds to me like he has the same issues as rafa had...

by **lakes10** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:38 am

Owzat wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:
Thewaykokid wrote:anyone got any clue what possible "beef" with the club he could have?

He asked for Silver and got brought plastic.

He wants top class players brought into the team ,

Could be that, maybe that the club got rid of Rafa, could be he asked for a pay rise or some contractual wrangling, could be anything

he was one of the players that walked into the board room with SG asking for a change of manager so its not that.

(i take it they did not just alk into the board room, more like a phone call but you know what i mean)

by **maguskwt** » Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:50 am

lakes10 wrote:
Owzat wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:
Thewaykokid wrote:anyone got any clue what possible "beef" with the club he could have?

He asked for Silver and got brought plastic.

He wants top class players brought into the team ,

Could be that, maybe that the club got rid of Rafa, could be he asked for a pay rise or some contractual wrangling, could be anything

he was one of the players that walked into the board room with SG asking for a change of manager so its not that.

(i take it they did not just alk into the board room, more like a phone call but you know what i mean)

really lakes?

then how come we've changed the manager and he still got a beef with the club?

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