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by **Redman in wales** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:58 am

Rush Job wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:His value will have halved by this time next year if he doesn't sign a new deal, so sign up or sayonara.

If he does go it means we need another midfielder, and not necessarily a like-for-like replacement either, though someone with above average defensive awareness would be preferable. Alonso, for example, wasn't a midfield destroyer and he played well enough alongside Gerrard so there's at least one other way we can go with this - assuming Gerrard remains. No more foreigners, though, they've caused us enough trouble.

Yup. Had the owners given rafa the money to sign Barry instead of keane we would already have cover.

this one's not the owners fault. We don't actually know if it was rafa / coco or what, but the money was there.. Barry would have been ours for £18m and we spent £20m on keane - it was decided that the keane deal was better value for money. Blame whoever, but I dont think it was the owners who said no the barry, as the money was there, it was whoever was advising them, or had the control over the transfer ins and outs. We all speculate, but we dont really know.

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:06 am

metalhead wrote:
maypaxvobiscum wrote:personally i would want someone with fire and a little of a never-say-die attitude would do well as his determination would spur his team-mates on, someone in the mold of Roy Keane, Robbie Savage or Craig Bellamy.

Er... with these type of qualities you need money these days, unfortunately we don't have that right now

rubbish. there are players in the lower divisions and in other countries who are not household names but can do the job. just look at how Arsenal goes around buying all these unknowns like Sagna and they turn out to be gems.

by **metalhead** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:39 am

ok, they signed sagna for around 7-8m... we don't even have this kind of money :laugh:

and robbie savage :laugh:

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:05 am

metalhead wrote:ok, they signed sagna for around 7-8m... we don't even have this kind of money

and robbie savage

and we signed Johnson for 17million.

oh wait...we didnt spend that much because some was from the Crouch money they owed us :laugh:

by **Benny The Noon** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:33 am

maypaxvobiscum wrote:so we'll probably have to find someone to replace him IF he leaves, though it does not have to be a like-for-like replacement. assuming we are poor, any of these guys could do the job for us?

Papa Bouba Diop (Portsmouth)
Walter Gargano (Napoli)
Fabian Delph (Leeds Utd)
Piotr Trochowski (Hamburg)
Joe Ledley (Cardiff) [contract expired]
Neven Subotic (Dortmund)
Martin Petrov (Man City) [contract expired]
Gago (Real Madrid)
Scott Parker (West Ham)
Kim Kallstrom (Lyon)
Lee Cattermole (Sunderland)
Diego Perez (Monaco)
Tom Cairney (Hull City)

personally i would want someone with fire and a little of a never-say-die attitude would do well as his determination would spur his team-mates on, someone in the mold of Roy Keane, Robbie Savage or Craig Bellamy.

Fottball Manager 10 at its best :laugh:

by **lakes10** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:38 am

maypaxvobiscum wrote:so we'll probably have to find someone to replace him IF he leaves, though it does not have to be a like-for-like replacement. assuming we are poor, any of these guys could do the job for us?

Papa Bouba Diop (Portsmouth)
Walter Gargano (Napoli)
Fabian Delph (Leeds Utd)
Piotr Trochowski (Hamburg)
Joe Ledley (Cardiff) [contract expired]
Neven Subotic (Dortmund)
Martin Petrov (Man City) [contract expired]
Gago (Real Madrid)
Scott Parker (West Ham)
Kim Kallstrom (Lyon)
Lee Cattermole (Sunderland)
Diego Perez (Monaco)
Tom Cairney (Hull City)

personally i would want someone with fire and a little of a never-say-die attitude would do well as his determination would spur his team-mates on, someone in the mold of Roy Keane, Robbie Savage or Craig Bellamy.

bloody hell mate, you would have us trying to stay in the prem with a team like that.

none of them could cut it at our club in my view.

by **Benny The Noon** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:39 am

Im still laughing at the Robbie Savage bit :laugh:

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:04 pm

lakes10 wrote:
maypaxvobiscum wrote:so we'll probably have to find someone to replace him IF he leaves, though it does not have to be a like-for-like replacement. assuming we are poor, any of these guys could do the job for us?

Papa Bouba Diop (Portsmouth)
Walter Gargano (Napoli)
Fabian Delph (Leeds Utd)
Piotr Trochowski (Hamburg)
Joe Ledley (Cardiff) [contract expired]
Neven Subotic (Dortmund)
Martin Petrov (Man City) [contract expired]
Gago (Real Madrid)
Scott Parker (West Ham)
Kim Kallstrom (Lyon)
Lee Cattermole (Sunderland)
Diego Perez (Monaco)
Tom Cairney (Hull City)

personally i would want someone with fire and a little of a never-say-die attitude would do well as his determination would spur his team-mates on, someone in the mold of Roy Keane, Robbie Savage or Craig Bellamy.

bloody hell mate, you would have us trying to stay in the prem with a team like that.

none of them could cut it at our club in my view.

yeah but apparently according to some know-it-alls on here, we've no money or very little to spend.

and we're a poor club so no top manager wants to join us.

wonder if that sad miserable git GYBS took his anti-depressants today :;):

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:03 pm

Tonight's Liverpool Echo

While Gerrard’s focus is on England matters, representatives on behalf of Mascherano are channelling all their efforts into reuniting the Argentine midfielder with Liverpool’s former manager Rafa Benitez.

Inter president Massimo Moratti has promised Benitez that he will fund a multi-million pound move for Mascherano and Marco Piccioli, who works with the 25-year-old, has revealed discussions are ongoing with Inter.

“There has already been a first contact with director Marco Branca,” Piccioli told www.Itasportpress.it.

“We are evaluating the move hard and in the next few days we will have a new meeting to better establish the details of this transfer deal.”

Mascherano cryptically admitted earlier this week that he had been learning Italian and earlier this month he eulogised that the type of football Benitez played “was his football”.

Goodbye Little Chief ....and yet another World Class player in the departure lounge waiting to leave our once formidable midfield

I think its a sad indictment of the game that the fans voice is no longer considered important enough to sway any decision ... all we can do is watch on while our team slowly dissipates at the hands of these merciless b@stards ,who have no compassion only contempt for our standing in world football and will even see us reduced to a virtual laughing stock to fulfil their wanton needs .....
First of an exodus of players I'm afraid

by **metalhead** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:27 pm

We should get Robbie Savage as a replacement

maypax

by **zarababe** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:48 pm

If it is true that he's reps are talking, without our club giving permission..

Although he is Capatin of Argentina.. I hope he has a little accident.. :angry:

Gawd I'm losing it :sniffle

by **parchpea** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:09 pm

Mash is a top player of his type but anything in the £30m region would be terrific money for a footballer than makes tackles and plays the ball to the guy stood next to him. Hes a Benitez type player all day long, hard working, good attitude and can tackle, tackle and tackle again. We dont have to buy another guy that destroys the game because maybe our new manager will have a different way of playing and we can just look at the game a different way and try a new approach.

by **Ciggy** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:25 pm

Javier Mascherano's agent claims Liverpool want to offload Argentine to Inter Milan

Javier Mascherano's agent says Liverpool want to sell the midfielder to Inter Milan.

The Argentina captain is set to follow former manager Rafa Benitez with preliminary talks already arranged but the Anfield club may dispute they are willing sellers.

The 25-year-old is still a crowd favourite at Anfield even though he has put off contract talks but Liverpool need to raise cash to provide their new manager with any chance of competing in the transfer window - and persuading other stars to stay.

Liverpool would want close to £30m for Mascherano and his agent Marco Piccioli said: 'Look, I can tell you that there is a desire from Liverpool to negotiate the player’s sale and the player is ready to join Inter and work with Benitez again.

'It’s true that I have spoken to Inter’s Marco Branca over the phone and we have agreed to meet up to discuss the situation.'

Piccioli's comments come as Real Madrid take stock of their bid for Steven Gerrard.

Real believe he is over priced at £25m and are considering switching attentions to Roma's Daniele de Rossi. However, scouts still came back with impressive reports on Gerrard following his performance for England last week.

And so it begins the fire sale I know Masch wants out but we havent even got a feckin manager yet :no

by **leep33** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 7:04 am

If he wants to go which is what it seems then if we can get decent money for him, then we should let him go, maybe with the money we could resign Alonso!! Just a thought.

by **Owzat** » Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:35 am

Ciggy wrote:Javier Mascherano's agent claims Liverpool want to offload Argentine to Inter Milan

Javier Mascherano's agent says Liverpool want to sell the midfielder to Inter Milan.

The Argentina captain is set to follow former manager Rafa Benitez with preliminary talks already arranged but the Anfield club may dispute they are willing sellers.

The 25-year-old is still a crowd favourite at Anfield even though he has put off contract talks but Liverpool need to raise cash to provide their new manager with any chance of competing in the transfer window - and persuading other stars to stay.

Liverpool would want close to £30m for Mascherano and his agent Marco Piccioli said: 'Look, I can tell you that there is a desire from Liverpool to negotiate the player’s sale and the player is ready to join Inter and work with Benitez again.

'It’s true that I have spoken to Inter’s Marco Branca over the phone and we have agreed to meet up to discuss the situation.'

Piccioli's comments come as Real Madrid take stock of their bid for Steven Gerrard.

Real believe he is over priced at £25m and are considering switching attentions to Roma's Daniele de Rossi. However, scouts still came back with impressive reports on Gerrard following his performance for England last week.

And so it begins the fire sale I know Masch wants out but we havent even got a feckin manager yet

Maybe £25m is "over priced" but the bottom line is they want to buy a player that a club doesn't necessarily want to sell so they're not going to pay market value.

Torres may only be worth £50m say, but if we sell him for what he is worth then how does that benefit us losing a £50m player and having £50m to replace him?

DISCLAIMER : before anyone gets out their pram, I'm not saying Torres is only worth £50m, I'm using it as an example value only, hence the word "say" after it (first reference)

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