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by **Maickito** » Tue May 18, 2010 2:03 pm

No but I think it really does back upwhat Rodolfo Borrell assessment that the best players for liverpool are english and the best players for barca are catalans.......

It's a p::iss poor reason for leaving. Just come out and admit you want to win la liga with Barcelona- bitter blow to all of us but don't start the :censored:

re: weather/language/ shops..... besides I think he missed the boat. I see Barca are after Cesc and Villa so I doubt enough money will be available after them ( assuming they land their men)

Everytime I hear this type of story I'm reminded how loyal Gerrard has been to us - the man is an absolute legend and icon of our club.

by **fivecups** » Tue May 18, 2010 2:06 pm

Maickito wrote:No but I think it really does back upwhat Rodolfo Borrell assessment that the best players for liverpool are english and the best players for barca are catalans.......

It's a p::iss poor reason for leaving. Just come out and admit you want to win la liga with Barcelona- bitter blow to all of us but don't start the re: weather/language/ shops..... besides I think he missed the boat. I see Barca are after Cesc and Villa so I doubt enough money will be available after them ( assuming they land their men)

Everytime I hear this type of story I'm reminded how loyal Gerrard has been to us - the man is an absolute legend and icon of our club.

And he's off to Real from what I've heard!

by **kazza** » Tue May 18, 2010 2:47 pm

Ciggy wrote:
kazza wrote:
Aussie Style wrote:during the winter, during those four or five months, I have to stay at home all day with my family.

Awwww must be hard doing what everyone else has to do but doesnt have 90 grand a week to warm the cockles of their heart.

Message to Mrs Masch dont be such a lazy cow learn english

If she knew English, she might be royally p1ssed off that Masch is complaining about spending so much time with her. Obviously she does not read the papers.

by **Aussie Style** » Tue May 18, 2010 6:22 pm

Apparently Fabregas just told Arsene he wants out this summer.

Found this part of the story interesting though;

Yesterday Barcelona director general Joan Oliver confirmed that Barca were negotiating for three players. One of those is Valencia striker David Villa, for whom the club have reportedly offered €40 million. Cesc is likely to be the second.

Would Mascherano be the 3rd player? Can they afford him after buying Villa and Fagregas? Fuc.k sake how many mids do they need? Xavi, Iniesta, Fab, Masch.

Good luck everyone else that comes up against them if they actually get Villa and Fab!

by **7_Kewell** » Tue May 18, 2010 6:36 pm

Aussie Style wrote:Apparently Fabregas just told Arsene he wants out this summer.

Found this part of the story interesting though;

Yesterday Barcelona director general Joan Oliver confirmed that Barca were negotiating for three players. One of those is Valencia striker David Villa, for whom the club have reportedly offered €40 million. Cesc is likely to be the second.

Would Mascherano be the 3rd player? Can they afford him after buying Villa and Fagregas? Fuc.k sake how many mids do they need? Xavi, Iniesta, Fab, Masch.

Good luck everyone else that comes up against them if they actually get Villa and Fab!

not sure Barca have the cash to buy all 3. Masch would command a fee of 25-30 million.

by **tubby** » Wed May 19, 2010 8:03 pm

7_Kewell wrote:
Aussie Style wrote:Apparently Fabregas just told Arsene he wants out this summer.

Found this part of the story interesting though;

Yesterday Barcelona director general Joan Oliver confirmed that Barca were negotiating for three players. One of those is Valencia striker David Villa, for whom the club have reportedly offered €40 million. Cesc is likely to be the second.

Would Mascherano be the 3rd player? Can they afford him after buying Villa and Fagregas? Fuc.k sake how many mids do they need? Xavi, Iniesta, Fab, Masch.

Good luck everyone else that comes up against them if they actually get Villa and Fab!

not sure Barca have the cash to buy all 3. Masch would command a fee of 25-30 million.

35Mil minimum mate.

by **7_Kewell** » Wed May 19, 2010 11:45 pm

bavlondon wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:
Aussie Style wrote:Apparently Fabregas just told Arsene he wants out this summer.

Found this part of the story interesting though;

Yesterday Barcelona director general Joan Oliver confirmed that Barca were negotiating for three players. One of those is Valencia striker David Villa, for whom the club have reportedly offered €40 million. Cesc is likely to be the second.

Would Mascherano be the 3rd player? Can they afford him after buying Villa and Fagregas? Fuc.k sake how many mids do they need? Xavi, Iniesta, Fab, Masch.

Good luck everyone else that comes up against them if they actually get Villa and Fab!

not sure Barca have the cash to buy all 3. Masch would command a fee of 25-30 million.

35Mil minimum mate.

then we are safe...i think. How long has he got on his contract?

by **Rush Job** » Thu May 20, 2010 1:19 am

7_Kewell wrote:
bavlondon wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:
Aussie Style wrote:Apparently Fabregas just told Arsene he wants out this summer.

Found this part of the story interesting though;

Yesterday Barcelona director general Joan Oliver confirmed that Barca were negotiating for three players. One of those is Valencia striker David Villa, for whom the club have reportedly offered €40 million. Cesc is likely to be the second.

Would Mascherano be the 3rd player? Can they afford him after buying Villa and Fagregas? Fuc.k sake how many mids do they need? Xavi, Iniesta, Fab, Masch.

Good luck everyone else that comes up against them if they actually get Villa and Fab!

not sure Barca have the cash to buy all 3. Masch would command a fee of 25-30 million.

35Mil minimum mate.

then we are safe...i think. How long has he got on his contract?

But its like Alonso. If he really wants to leave all we can do is get the best price.
Hopefully Rafa gets his way and we get the money to spend on players..... unlike the Alonso deal.

by **Penguins** » Thu May 20, 2010 4:07 am

I think we'll get a maximum of 30 million for him.
He has still not signed a contract and has only 2 years left.
If he like Alonso makes it clear he won't sign the value would drop dramatically after this summer getting us maybe half next summer and a unhappy player during the season. Bad move....
What is worse is that maybe 10 of those 30 will be invested in the team.

by **The Good Yank** » Thu May 20, 2010 5:04 am

Penguins wrote:I think we'll get a maximum of 30 million for him.
He has still not signed a contract and has only 2 years left.
If he like Alonso makes it clear he won't sign the value would drop dramatically after this summer getting us maybe half next summer and a unhappy player during the season. Bad move....
What is worse is that maybe 10 of those 30 will be invested in the team.

How is this in any way like the Alonso Escapade?

by **akumaface** » Thu May 20, 2010 5:20 am

We shouldn't be speculating as it is not good for your health

. I guess if the player really wanted to leave, then no point keeping him here as it might cause a bigger problem. If he is not the kind of person to be with the club through both good and bad time. Screw him. I'm just afraid the money we got will not be allowed to use it for new players.

by **Penguins** » Thu May 20, 2010 9:50 am

The Good Yank wrote:
Penguins wrote:I think we'll get a maximum of 30 million for him.
He has still not signed a contract and has only 2 years left.
If he like Alonso makes it clear he won't sign the value would drop dramatically after this summer getting us maybe half next summer and a unhappy player during the season. Bad move....
What is worse is that maybe 10 of those 30 will be invested in the team.

How is this in any way like the Alonso Escapade?

It isn't that far from it even if their reasons may differ.

Alonso wanted to leave for Real and we had little leverage with him having 2 years left on his contract and not resigning.

Masch wants to leave for Barca and we have little leverage as he has only 2 years left and may not want to resign.

Similar scenario. We can't just keep an unhappy player and maybe get 15 million next summer. Just foolish.

by **NANNY RED** » Thu May 20, 2010 10:20 am

AYE AYE

From The Times
May 20, 2010

Jamie Carragher issues red alert over exodus
Defender tells his unsettled Liverpool team-mates to commit now to Anfield or not to bother coming back for pre-season training

Matt Hughes

Jamie Carragher has told his unsettled team-mates that if their commitment to Liverpool is in doubt, they should not bother returning to the club for pre-season training.

The centre back is thought to have been referring to Javier Mascherano, who has expressed an interest in joining Barcelona, but his words of warning are equally pertinent to Steven Gerrard and Fernando Torres, whose futures at Anfield are also uncertain.

In his first interview since returning from international retirement, Carragher spoke passionately yesterday about his pride over the prospect of representing England at the World Cup finals, but his love for Liverpool is even more enduring.

Carragher, 32, has taken heart from Rafael Benítez’s announcement yesterday that he wants to stay as Liverpool manager and would welcome a similar expression of commitment from some team-mates. There is little prospect of Gerrard leaving, despite renewed interest from Real Madrid, but with Chelsea, Manchester City and Barcelona preparing to bid for Torres, the same cannot be said of the Spain striker.
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Liverpool finished seventh in the Barclays Premier League and Carragher said yesterday: “As soon as the game at Hull finished I wished the start of next season was the next day. The best thing is to forget it and get on with it. I know what it’s like on the back of a poor season and just want us to get back.

“The people who want to be there will come back. If people don’t, then no problem. There will always be a Liverpool Football Club. People always talk about players leaving, about ‘Is this the end of Liverpool?’ but no chance.

“Better players than the ones we have now have left and we have replaced them. Anyone who doesn’t want to be there, no problem, but we’ll start next season with the players who want to do well.”

Carragher said that Liverpool’s disappointing season, in which they failed to qualify for the Champions League for the first time since 2003, had influenced his decision to end a self-imposed international exile dating back to 2007.

It will only be a brief international return, which he attributes to injuries to the likes of Wes Brown and Joleon Lescott. Carragher does not plan to make himself available for the European Championship qualifying campaign, which begins in September.

“Don’t forget Liverpool had come off the back of two Champions League finals in 2007,” he said. “I’m not in that situation now. That is what’s changed.

“With how it’s gone this season, at my age, you want to play at the highest level possible for as long as possible, and the highest level is the World Cup and the Champions League. Hopefully, if I go to South Africa, it’s a one-off because the injury situation will have been cleared up for next season.”

Carragher said that he has not been given any assurance by Fabio Capello that he will make the England manager’s final squad of 23, to be announced on June 1, but it seems inconceivable that he will be left out, with Matthew Upson or Michael Dawson the most likely central defensive casualty.

Capello emphasised yesterday that England can win the tournament and identified the state of the pitches in South Africa as one of his biggest concerns. Given the condition of the turf at Wembley, though, his players should have little problem adjusting to a substandard surface.

“I think England are one of the best teams in the world and we can win against anyone,” Capello said. “Whenever you go to South Africa you are interested in the quality of the pitches, but my most important hope is that all my best players will be injury-free.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol....260.ece

by **tubby** » Thu May 20, 2010 10:57 am

Is

right Carra. I can't stand all these players using interest from othe clubs to get better wages. Either stay or :censored:

off.

by **metalhead** » Thu May 20, 2010 10:58 am

Give this man the Liverpool captaincy

well said Carra.. :nod

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