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[bigmick]

In fairness to Stu, I reckon if you trawled through the board you'd be able to find a daft posting or two off most on here. I know as recently as a couple of weeks ago I was extolling the virtues of Pelligrino. He now looks like a complete liability and I'd be surprised if he was kept on.
There's no question however that the more dismissive your style of debate, the more likely you are to be caught out as A.B. recently discovered. It's also a fact of life aswell that volatile posters such as Stu, A.B. and Banana are attracted together like magnets. They secretly love each other of course, and the more they deny it the more you know it's true. 

[antz]

Totally agree bigmick, thats why i think that sometimes peolple should be more humble when others express their views because no matter who we are we will get things wrong. So if i think that Traroe is hoing to score the winning goal in the final with a 35 yard screamer dont beat me to deaf but humour me.

[banana]

Totally agree bigmick, thats why i think that sometimes peolple should be more humble when others express their views because no matter who we are we will get things wrong. So if i think that Traroe is hoing to score the winning goal in the final with a 35 yard screamer dont beat me to deaf but humour me.

We all make mistakes, and when we do it is usually best to admit it. But I just had to remind Stu of how wise it is to have a bit of caution when posting.

[supersub]

I think looking back can make interesting reading

[115-1073096938]

I stand by what i said.

I can name alot better centre halfs out there than Jamie Carragher. Howeverr when it comes to right backs, once i've mentioned Paulo Ferriera, Cafu and Puyol, i am struggling.

Banana, your complete lack of knowledge on the sport is there for everyone to see...

And I still think Owen is average. Make no mistake. I would never have him back.

Says it all. No more comments on the topic.... moving on swiftly...

[76-1115222408]

I stand by what i said.

I can name alot better centre halfs out there than Jamie Carragher. Howeverr when it comes to right backs, once i've mentioned Paulo Ferriera, Cafu and Puyol, i am struggling.

Banana, your complete lack of knowledge on the sport is there for everyone to see...

And I still think Owen is average. Make no mistake. I would never have him back.

Says it all. No more comments on the topic.... moving on swiftly...

Have to disagree, Carra is a quality centre back Though not World Class, but  at right back he was was not good. He used to panic when closed dow, then kick out of play and as i said in a previous post, the like os Arsenal used to love palying down whatever side he was on(as im sure you are aware he was often utilised at LB by GH), it really used to scare me when a winger attacked him, it was frightening...lol!
Dont get me wrong he still was the same carra.....150% commitment, blood & guts but just not in his best position.

[A.B.]

I stand by what i said.

I can name alot better centre halfs out there than Jamie Carragher. Howeverr when it comes to right backs, once i've mentioned Paulo Ferriera, Cafu and Puyol, i am struggling.

Banana, your complete lack of knowledge on the sport is there for everyone to see...

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And I still think Owen is average. Make no mistake. I would never have him back.


Says it all. No more comments on the topic.... moving on swiftly..

Disagree about Carra being a RB, if he was good at RB he would had been playing in that position this season. Clearly CB role suits him more. RB and LB are expected to go forward now days and Carragher isn't just good when it comes down going forward.

[76-1115222408]

Disagree about Carra being a RB, if he was good at RB he would had been playing in that position this season. Clearly CB role suits him more. RB and LB are expected to go forward now days and Carragher isn't just good when it comes down going forward.

Spot On

YNWA

[115-1073096938]

Have to disagree, Carra is a quality centre back Though not World Class, but  at right back he was was not good. He used to panic when closed dow, then kick out of play and as i said in a previous post, the like os Arsenal used to love palying down whatever side he was on(as im sure you are aware he was often utilised at LB by GH), it really used to scare me when a winger attacked him, it was frightening...lol!
Dont get me wrong he still was the same carra.....150% commitment, blood & guts but just not in his best position.

Really?

Name me one player with the exception of Pires and Henry EVER getting the better of Carragher when he played on either side?

Beckham? Nar
Giggs? Nope
Robert? Pffft
Overmars? Not in a one on one
Duff? Marked him out of the game
Kewell when he was at his best? Not a chance...

The only wide players who ever got a look in against the lad when he played out there where Bowyer and Ljungberg, that was because there game involved cutting infield on a regular basis.

He had the rest in his pocket every time. A right backs job isn't to attack, its to a stop the opposing teams wingers. Carragher done this every single time he played in the last 8 years with the exception of Pires and Henry in two games and ONLY two games he's stopped everyone he's played against.

Hence the reason this seaon is no suprise the fact that he's playing just as well at centre half. Alot of knowledgable people will back me up when i say Carragher has been like this for years and has ALWAYS been solid defensively. However its only now all the bandwagon idiots are starting to give the lad the praise he deserves.

You can sit there all you want telling yourself you know what you're talking about, but i know myself, my opinion of him from day one hasn't changed and i was spot on from the start.

So all i can say to ya lad, is well done, you've finally after 8 YEARS realised the lads a class act.

[Lando_Griffin]

JC is the best CB England's got. John Terry can kiss my ar*e. All he's had to do this season is clear the loose ball after one of the other defenders have made the tackle/forced the error. He looks docile for England, and I'm glad JC isn't first choice for the national side as he'll be fresher for us! He should be 1st choice, mind. And don't forget that Terry's been playing at CB all his career. Mr Carragher only started again this year after about a 6 year absence!!!!! He ain't a RB, LB or CM. He's a CB. And the best English one by far.

[Lando_Griffin]

Good lad, stu. Couldn't have put it better myself!

[Lando_Griffin]

He was a frickin' good RB, LB and DCM, though!!!! Top lad! Up the 'pool!

[76-1115222408]

Have to disagree, Carra is a quality centre back Though not World Class, but  at right back he was was not good. He used to panic when closed dow, then kick out of play and as i said in a previous post, the like os Arsenal used to love palying down whatever side he was on(as im sure you are aware he was often utilised at LB by GH), it really used to scare me when a winger attacked him, it was frightening...lol!
Dont get me wrong he still was the same carra.....150% commitment, blood & guts but just not in his best position.

Really?

Name me one player with the exception of Pires and Henry EVER getting the better of Carragher when he played on either side?

Beckham? Nar
Giggs? Nope
Robert? Pffft
Overmars? Not in a one on one
Duff? Marked him out of the game
Kewell when he was at his best? Not a chance...

The only wide players who ever got a look in against the lad when he played out there where Bowyer and Ljungberg, that was because there game involved cutting infield on a regular basis.

He had the rest in his pocket every time. A right backs job isn't to attack, its to a stop the opposing teams wingers. Carragher done this every single time he played in the last 8 years with the exception of Pires and Henry in two games and ONLY two games he's stopped everyone he's played against.

Hence the reason this seaon is no suprise the fact that he's playing just as well at centre half. Alot of knowledgable people will back me up when i say Carragher has been like this for years and has ALWAYS been solid defensively. However its only now all the bandwagon idiots are starting to give the lad the praise he deserves.

You can sit there all you want telling yourself you know what you're talking about, but i know myself, my opinion of him from day one hasn't changed and i was spot on from the start.

So all i can say to ya lad, is well done, you've finally after 8 YEARS realised the lads a class act.

Firstly, im not sitting here thinking im right(im obviously not like you!) im just airing MY OPINION, it as obviously riled you. But just cause u have 2,000 odd posts doesnt mean you know it all mate.
Also i never said u didnt say he has always been good, i am a newbie after all, so these forums are new to me.......and if u tink u can railroad me from posting im sorry m8 it isnt gonna work, also u say at first only bowyer and ljungberg (spellin sori its late!) got past him, but then proceed to say that only ever henry and pires got pat him in two gmes etc; MAKE UP YOUR MIND, which two is it?? or is it all four.

Also from my post i say that he used to give his all and agree he was solid, but being solid doesnt make you GOOD in a position. Carra just didnt have the right attributes to be a top class right back, as someone said, if he was so good why did the very astute Rafa not play him there??

Let me just add as a final point to think about, if Carra was so good at right back, can you explain him not playing ahead of Danny Mills at the 2002 world cup?!!!?    Enuf said I think

YNWA

[banana]

Have to disagree, Carra is a quality centre back Though not World Class, but  at right back he was was not good. He used to panic when closed dow, then kick out of play and as i said in a previous post, the like os Arsenal used to love palying down whatever side he was on(as im sure you are aware he was often utilised at LB by GH), it really used to scare me when a winger attacked him, it was frightening...lol!
Dont get me wrong he still was the same carra.....150% commitment, blood & guts but just not in his best position.

Really?

Name me one player with the exception of Pires and Henry EVER getting the better of Carragher when he played on either side?

Beckham? Nar
Giggs? Nope
Robert? Pffft
Overmars? Not in a one on one
Duff? Marked him out of the game
Kewell when he was at his best? Not a chance...

The only wide players who ever got a look in against the lad when he played out there where Bowyer and Ljungberg, that was because there game involved cutting infield on a regular basis.

He had the rest in his pocket every time. A right backs job isn't to attack, its to a stop the opposing teams wingers. Carragher done this every single time he played in the last 8 years with the exception of Pires and Henry in two games and ONLY two games he's stopped everyone he's played against.

Hence the reason this seaon is no suprise the fact that he's playing just as well at centre half. Alot of knowledgable people will back me up when i say Carragher has been like this for years and has ALWAYS been solid defensively. However its only now all the bandwagon idiots are starting to give the lad the praise he deserves.

You can sit there all you want telling yourself you know what you're talking about, but i know myself, my opinion of him from day one hasn't changed and i was spot on from the start.

So all i can say to ya lad, is well done, you've finally after 8 YEARS realised the lads a class act.

Firstly, im not sitting here thinking im right(im obviously not like you!) im just airing MY OPINION, it as obviously riled you. But just cause u have 2,000 odd posts doesnt mean you know it all mate.
Also i never said u didnt say he has always been good, i am a newbie after all, so these forums are new to me.......and if u tink u can railroad me from posting im sorry m8 it isnt gonna work, also u say at first only bowyer and ljungberg (spellin sori its late!) got past him, but then proceed to say that only ever henry and pires got pat him in two gmes etc; MAKE UP YOUR MIND, which two is it?? or is it all four.

Also from my post i say that he used to give his all and agree he was solid, but being solid doesnt make you GOOD in a position. Carra just didnt have the right attributes to be a top class right back, as someone said, if he was so good why did the very astute Rafa not play him there??

Let me just add as a final point to think about, if Carra was so good at right back, can you explain him not playing ahead of Danny Mills at the 2002 world cup?!!!?    Enuf said I think

YNWA

That's a fair assesment. Carra was far behind in the pecking order at right back. No sane england manager would ever use him there as his abilities were limited, and he seemed to choke every time he faced a good team.

As a CD he is now 3rd or 4th choice for england.

[Leonmc0708]

Stu, you should just hold up your hands and admit you got it well wrong lad. Miles off the mark.

and you came down to earth with an almighty  ( am I the first to use that one ?)

Banana, pulling up old threads cus someone on here has proved you to be a clueless know nothing knee jerker is not helpful to this forums cause.