Liverpool FC Forum

[SeaofRed]

I've got a distinct feeling our situation will get worse before it gets better, but I remain confident for the future.

[Sabre]

We can't reply lucas in defense or attack for a big team.Gerard also lacks some quality like what i mention earlier.He can't control the ball very well or is not ease with the ball or he is not big enough to play for the attacking midfield role.I prefer Aniesta.I don't mean to oppose any of u.I am also a liverpool fan.That 's my opinion

Andres Iniesta has slightly more skill than Gerrard, he dribbles better, but he's not as strong as Gerrard. Just play Gerrard with a better player than Lucas and enjoy. Iniesta alongside Lucas wouldn't have solved our problems this season neither. We would have been probably even weaker.

I'm not denying Iniesta is a skillful player, but I can't agree Gerrard lacks quality. When you run well with the ball, when you play comfortably with your two feet, when you control the wall while running and you know getting past a player as the same time you're controlling the ball, when your shooting technique is one of the best of the premier league, that means you do well a lot of things related with skill in football. And Gerrard does those things well.

He lacks some of the showy stuff of Iniesta of making a pass while looking somewhere else? ok. He lacks the ability to dribble two players in one metre? Maybe. But he lacks quality? No, no, no, no.

It's ok you defend your opinion, though.

[iansu]

I agree with you andy why u sell Carragher.I have an explanation why.I accept he is the best defender in the current liverpool squad even well ahead of the dane(agger) sheer for the defensive duty.For a successiveful title winning team,he is not good enough.
1.Although he can pass a long ball to the target man,he make the attackers and the midfielders lose their souls by passing long ball to them for heading may be benitez's tactics I don't know.That act will unstablize,prevent the movement or flow of the team.You can see liverpool team sometimes plays like a championship team.The poor performance source mainly come from carragher.I accept he is a good defender,defender only.
2.He always hesitates to pass.That's not acceptable for a big team.
3.His setpiece record is also a problem.Why liverpool sometimes difficult to score this season partially depends upon the defenders as well.You can see it is a rare case liverpool got a goal from the corner or setpiece.When hypia were there,he always rised to score for us.These days a corner or setpiece is not a valuable or isn't a threat for the opposite team as well.
So I tip a change.That change will be chelsea's alex I prefer.
It s my opinion.

[Emerald Red]

I'd like him to stay next year at Liverpool to assess whether liverpool is temporarily going down or the opposite(flying high again)if he loves to stay at liverpool.As being a top striker in the world,it is normal you would like to enjoy champion league football or play in a team bigger than liverpool like barcelona or real madrid or like to earn a better money while he is young.If liverpool believes that they can turn things around again,they should keep their star player for the future because he is still young.Even if you want to offload your player,u should consider when he is 28 or 29 then u can sell him.

             If I were a liverpool manager at the moment and have the right to the player management,I would sell Gerard(chased by real),Macherano(bacelona),Bennayoun(chelsea),Carragher,Acqualani,Kagiakos.I will let all of them go.Then I will reform the team that can be really competitive and titile challenger again.

I guess,I can get around 85 millions ₤ for selling of them.

I will buy Silva(25 m₤),Aneista(27m₤) from barcelona,Essien(27m₤),Alex(15m₤ option) from chelsea
Mcarthy from Blackburn

the team will be :

                                 Reina

Johnson/Degen      Alex/Skrtel    Agger          Insua

                               Essien

Rodriguez/Pacheco      Aneista                    Silva

                      Torres         Mcarthy


That team will be a title winning buy I guess.Liverpool can afford to change like that I think

Good plan, Batman. Cash in on our best players and feed that dept and replace with such world class recommendations such as Benny McCarthy. Who's Aniesta? Is she related to Barcalona's Iniesta?

[iansu]

I agree aniesta is weak compared to gerard and also may be a showy player as u say.my saying about gerard "lacking quality" may be going too far for you.I don't mean gerard don't have the quality.of course ,he has the quality.he already proved that by lifting the champion league.He has the shooting skill I accept.I am not throwing  all the bad thing happing on the pitch last seaon on him.How to say?Why people are afraid of facing bacelona because they can keep the ball very well and pass through any well organized defense in the world.I'd like to have the skill like them instilled into the liverpool midfield.You can't say like that.You like the barcelona style so you buy aniesta.I am only saying what I am seeing right now.He is the best suited man I think I don't know we can get his service or not.
                 If you a re a long time liverpool fan,u have seen the match liverpool vs valencia at anfield in the houlier reign.They played like what they want as we were a beginner.
Keeping the ball on foot is the most essensial skill in football.
I like to try aniesta for one season with us paring with the player like essien.We can't rely on lucas,frankly speaking ,can't use lucas if we would like to escape from this struggle i think.His skill can't be a perfect defensive midfielder or attacking midfielder.

[Sabre]

If you a re a long time liverpool fan,u have seen the match liverpool vs valencia at anfield in the houlier reign.They played like what they want as we were a beginner.

Valencia would never have played that way had they opposed a solid Liverpool like the one we used to have under Benitez bar last season.

In that game there was a team that made many things well, yes, but also a team that made a lot of things badly. Even the final against Alaves didn't talk too well about our defensive abilities of the time. Collective pressing is as important in modern football as posession, as a proper pressing among other things avoids comfortable posession.

I do give importance to possession in football mate, but I don't like to give it too much importance. When you have a team or philosophy that gives too much importance to posession, you have teams that underachieve. That's why Barcelona has less titles than other top european clubs, and that's why Spain struggled to win silverware until they got spot on other aspects of the game such as intensity.

Posession is not IMHO the most essential skill in football and that's where we disagree, which is nice. It's important, but not essential.

[NANNY RED]

That Broughton must be well in with Chelsea though to be going there end of season party, Season ticket or no season ticket.Big conflict of interest here in my opinion. He has done feck all since hes been here apart from tell us the club is for sale, and dont forget who brought him in , them two lying ba.stards . Funny how Yossie was never linked to Chelsea and now with there man on the inside him and another few players are also getting it in the ear from him about Chelsea, This fella needs to be fecked off , First Christie and now him , are suits are becoming a fecking joke, different agendas than what we have .

[inglis5]

Good article from A Liverpool Thing -

A Question or Two For Martin Broughton
Monday, May 31, 2010

So this is the new Liverpool Way; where the fans get to know what the club's chairman thinks about the future of a player through comments he made at a rival club's end of season do.

In reality, there isn't really anything particularly revealing in Martin Broughton's reported comments that he believes that Fernando Torres is at the stage in his career where he had to think about his future before deciding whether to stay at Anfield or not. If we're being honest, it is something that we have all thought ourselves. Indeed it was more interesting to read that he thinks that it will take three years to turn the club around. Given the pessimistic reports coming out of the club over the past couple of weeks, it is perhaps a better outlook than most have dared hope for.

Yet that does not mean that the whole story does not raise any questions. The first and most obvious one centres around what he was doing at Chelsea's Player of the Year award in the first place. For someone who felt the need to publicly claim that he wasn't going to attend the Liverpool v Chelsea game because he didn't think that it was fair on both himself and the club, it was quite a strange and questionable decision to say the least.

For all the lack of class that he showed in making that choice, the fan inside of us can understand his desire to be there. Much less excusable is the fact that he decided to share his opinions with someone who was at the same event. This is a man who publicly said that he didn't feel that it was appropriate for him to meet the Spirit of Shankly or any other suppoter group because it wasn't right to address one particular group privately. Yet apparently it seems that he feels it is right to address one individual at a party. And isn't expressing an opinion like that at an official event of a rival club - one that has publicly expressed an interest in Torres - tantamout to revealing insider information?

It certainly isn't beyond imagination that Chelsea, on hearing those comments, might get in touch with Torres' agent to put pressure on the player to move. Not to mention signalling to them that they can put in a lower offer than they might have thought because the decision about the player's future is out of Liverpool's hands.  And that is without speculating what else he might have said to other people there.  Either way, it certainly isn't going to help Liverpool.

When Broughton was appointed as chairman, the doubts over having in that role someone who was a fan of such a close rival like Chelsea were shouted down by claims that a professional like him wouldn't let personal allegiances come in the way of doing a good job. Sadly, his actions so far have shown that the faith of those who defended his appointment was misplaced.

http://www.aliverpoolthing.com/2010....on.html

[leep33]

I think its a disgrace, his loyalties should be to the club paying him a salary, and he should most definately not be making comments about one of our players leaving at a rival clubs end of season do. If this is true He should be fired on the spot, if he had any class he would have already resigned!!

[NANNY RED]

Brought in to sell the club ,my ars.e , brought in to sell our better players more like to wipe a bit of the debt off.

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

I'd like him to stay next year at Liverpool to assess whether liverpool is temporarily going down or the opposite(flying high again)if he loves to stay at liverpool.As being a top striker in the world,it is normal you would like to enjoy champion league football or play in a team bigger than liverpool like barcelona or real madrid or like to earn a better money while he is young.If liverpool believes that they can turn things around again,they should keep their star player for the future because he is still young.Even if you want to offload your player,u should consider when he is 28 or 29 then u can sell him.

             If I were a liverpool manager at the moment and have the right to the player management,I would sell Gerard(chased by real),Macherano(bacelona),Bennayoun(chelsea),Carragher,Acqualani,Kagiakos.I will let all of them go.Then I will reform the team that can be really competitive and titile challenger again.

I guess,I can get around 85 millions ₤ for selling of them.

I will buy Silva(25 m₤),Aneista(27m₤) from barcelona,Essien(27m₤),Alex(15m₤ option) from chelsea
Mcarthy from Blackburn

the team will be :

                                 Reina

Johnson/Degen      Alex/Skrtel    Agger          Insua

                               Essien

Rodriguez/Pacheco      Aneista                    Silva

                      Torres         Mcarthy


That team will be a title winning buy I guess.Liverpool can afford to change like that I think

This post simply confirms to me how much more potent drugs sold in other countries tend to be 

[Zidane]

This fella needs to be fecked off , First Christie and now him , are suits are becoming a fecking joke, different agendas than what we have.

My thoughts exactly, it's sad, the people we bring in to sell this club don't even give a about the club just like the owners.  It's a never ending cycle right now they just need to sell and get this sht over with.  Broughton is so full of sht too, these situations make me happy that Rafa has most control on transfer issues or at least we're led to believe he does.

[roberto green]

I'd like him to stay next year at Liverpool to assess whether liverpool is temporarily going down or the opposite(flying high again)if he loves to stay at liverpool.As being a top striker in the world,it is normal you would like to enjoy champion league football or play in a team bigger than liverpool like barcelona or real madrid or like to earn a better money while he is young.If liverpool believes that they can turn things around again,they should keep their star player for the future because he is still young.Even if you want to offload your player,u should consider when he is 28 or 29 then u can sell him.

             If I were a liverpool manager at the moment and have the right to the player management,I would sell Gerard(chased by real),Macherano(bacelona),Bennayoun(chelsea),Carragher,Acqualani,Kagiakos.I will let all of them go.Then I will reform the team that can be really competitive and titile challenger again.

I guess,I can get around 85 millions ₤ for selling of them.

I will buy Silva(25 m₤),Aneista(27m₤) from barcelona,Essien(27m₤),Alex(15m₤ option) from chelsea
Mcarthy from Blackburn

the team will be :

                                 Reina

Johnson/Degen      Alex/Skrtel    Agger          Insua

                               Essien

Rodriguez/Pacheco      Aneista                    Silva

                      Torres         Mcarthy


That team will be a title winning buy I guess.Liverpool can afford to change like that I think

This post simply confirms to me how much more potent drugs sold in other countries tend to be 

It takes fantasy football to a new level LSD football if you ask me

[club_Levis]

I'd like him to stay next year at Liverpool to assess whether liverpool is temporarily going down or the opposite(flying high again)if he loves to stay at liverpool.As being a top striker in the world,it is normal you would like to enjoy champion league football or play in a team bigger than liverpool like barcelona or real madrid or like to earn a better money while he is young.If liverpool believes that they can turn things around again,they should keep their star player for the future because he is still young.Even if you want to offload your player,u should consider when he is 28 or 29 then u can sell him.

             If I were a liverpool manager at the moment and have the right to the player management,I would sell Gerard(chased by real),Macherano(bacelona),Bennayoun(chelsea),Carragher,Acqualani,Kagiakos.I will let all of them go.Then I will reform the team that can be really competitive and titile challenger again.

I guess,I can get around 85 millions ₤ for selling of them.

I will buy Silva(25 m₤),Aneista(27m₤) from barcelona,Essien(27m₤),Alex(15m₤ option) from chelsea
Mcarthy from Blackburn

the team will be :

                                 Reina

Johnson/Degen      Alex/Skrtel    Agger          Insua

                               Essien

Rodriguez/Pacheco      Aneista                    Silva

                      Torres         Mcarthy


That team will be a title winning buy I guess.Liverpool can afford to change like that I think

Is McCarthy your cousin?

[LFC2007]

Hopefully most of our players don't follow developments in the media quite as closely as some of us do because if they read, amongst all the other sh!t, the reported comments of the chairman that it'll take "three years to turn the club around" they might feel more inclined to leave than they otherwise would. I get the impression that our key players want to see progress THIS summer and seriously question whether they would be prepared to sacrifice a few years of their career when there are other projects that offer the potential of winning major honours right now.