Liverpool FC Forum

[Ola Mr Benitez]

Ola Mr Benitez-I've got to agree with you there.  The demonstrations will have no effect on the owners, these are just cold old who only care for money.  The best way to hurt them is to stop putting money into their pockets.  Unfortunately, I just don't see that happening right now.

Exactly, I dont see it happening yet either..  And neither do the Americans, which is why they are not really bothered!

[Roger Red Hat]

lets chip in together and hire a hit man.

[Anfield rapper]

We've had nothing but lies from them regarding how they were going to finance buying the club and the new stadium. In fact they have lied about the stadium altogether. None of the fans trusts them anymore. We are not idiots, we know when we've been lied to. How Moores thought this was the best deal for the club i will never know. They never had the money needed to take this club back to the top. Even if they do get away with a profit of £50m each i just want them out.

[maguskwt]

how did everyone feel when they both brought the club tho? and did people really think that nothing bad would happen when they did buy it?

personally cant wait to see them go... that dic lad seems like a sound bloke, and a fan

Well, I remember there were a lot of people against it from the beginning Daws (although not nearly as many as will now claim that they were against it from the beginning, if you get my meaning ).  But, there were, I think, a lot of people--and I'm one of them--who were prepared to give them a chance.  After all, Man U didn't implode as people predicted/hoped after the Glazers took over so there was hope that an influx of Yank cash might be the way forward.  Many of us took our cues from their early press conferences, where--despite the odd gaff--they gave the impression that they would uphold traditions and leave the footballing decisions to the footballing men.  Sadly, they've not done that and seem to be rather lighter in the cash department than they first let on as well.  Bottom line: they talked a good game a year ago but they've since been exposed for the muppets they are. 

to be honest when Moores and Parry revealed that they would be choosing the Yanks, I was agreeable with the decision... also because they keep saying that they've done a thorough research and believed that the yanks were the right choice... how I was misled...

[maguskwt]

lets chip in together and hire a hit man.

why not chip in together and buy our club... if we can gather 1 million liverpool fans then 500 pounds per person should do the trick 

[Redman in wales]

lets chip in together and hire a hit man.

why not chip in together and buy our club... if we can gather 1 million liverpool fans then 500 pounds per person should do the trick 

you may jest - but the thing is, i'd be well up for finding 500squid for a millionth of liverpool 

[Bad Bob]

how did everyone feel when they both brought the club tho? and did people really think that nothing bad would happen when they did buy it?

personally cant wait to see them go... that dic lad seems like a sound bloke, and a fan

Well, I remember there were a lot of people against it from the beginning Daws (although not nearly as many as will now claim that they were against it from the beginning, if you get my meaning ).  But, there were, I think, a lot of people--and I'm one of them--who were prepared to give them a chance.  After all, Man U didn't implode as people predicted/hoped after the Glazers took over so there was hope that an influx of Yank cash might be the way forward.  Many of us took our cues from their early press conferences, where--despite the odd gaff--they gave the impression that they would uphold traditions and leave the footballing decisions to the footballing men.  Sadly, they've not done that and seem to be rather lighter in the cash department than they first let on as well.  Bottom line: they talked a good game a year ago but they've since been exposed for the muppets they are. 

to be honest when Moores and Parry revealed that they would be choosing the Yanks, I was agreeable with the decision... also because they keep saying that they've done a thorough research and believed that the yanks were the right choice... how I was misled...

No question that Moores and Parry have to shoulder a lot of blame here.  They trusted these clowns and assured us that this was the deal that would be in the best interests of Liverpool Football Club.  What were they thinking? 

[Pedro Maradona]

The topic starter is an excellent one and I agree with every word. The overall sentiment of getting these people out of the club should absolutely take precidence for all Liverpool fans IMHO. This is far more important that who the manager is, rotation, who plays up top, who we should sign or any of that stuff. The club will never prosper while these two have anything to do with it in my opinion.

If it's the case (and it seems to be so) that Rafa gets under their skin, and that they are reluctant to get rid because it would mean settling his contract, then he has my 100% backing. We aren't going to win the league this season anyway, but we won't win it ever with these two doughnuts infecting the heart of the club. It doesn't really matter now if the manager changes all eleven players every game and puts Crouch in goal, ridding the club of these two is more important, and though I don't always agree with the die hards 100%, they are absolutely on the money this time.


*Disclaimer* Once these two c...s have gone though, the rotation debate is back on make no mistake

here here, some form of demonstration is needed, those 2 kunts need to be shown where the door is.
Its our club not theirs....

[Pedro Maradona]

how did everyone feel when they both brought the club tho? and did people really think that nothing bad would happen when they did buy it?

personally cant wait to see them go... that dic lad seems like a sound bloke, and a fan

Well, I remember there were a lot of people against it from the beginning Daws (although not nearly as many as will now claim that they were against it from the beginning, if you get my meaning ).  But, there were, I think, a lot of people--and I'm one of them--who were prepared to give them a chance.  After all, Man U didn't implode as people predicted/hoped after the Glazers took over so there was hope that an influx of Yank cash might be the way forward.  Many of us took our cues from their early press conferences, where--despite the odd gaff--they gave the impression that they would uphold traditions and leave the footballing decisions to the footballing men.  Sadly, they've not done that and seem to be rather lighter in the cash department than they first let on as well.  Bottom line: they talked a good game a year ago but they've since been exposed for the muppets they are. 

Well bob, I think they didnt look the real deal from day one, and I was rather vocal in my thoughts about it and getting a lot of stick for it. Im not having a go at any supporter who thought that G + H were the right people to sell to but I think Parry and Moores should be ashamed of themselves and they are reponsible for the situation where the club is now held for ransom by these two spivs who had shown their true colours ever before they bought liverpool fc in ice hockey, baseball and in football in brazil aswell. All promises and lies.
I think having this absentee landlord idea with foster gillett representing G + H was never going to work, You cant run a football club from across the atlantic. Also the alarm bells should have been ringing when Gillett had to bring hicks on board to affor the club (all based on a conversation at a hockey game i might add). Also did it not dawn o G + H that the were selling to two men with other interests in other sports and therefore Liverpool FC was just another franchise to them anyway?
Moores should be barred from Anfield for his incompetence ( not just selling to G + h but his performance as chairman since 1991 whic to be honest has been very very poor) and Parry should have been sacked years ago.
I hope tht G  + H sell the club but they hold all the cards now and Liverpool FC are the ones to suffer.
Moores should resign as a mark of protest to the way the club has been run. He wont do he is a coward anyway.

[hello_red]

how did everyone feel when they both brought the club tho? and did people really think that nothing bad would happen when they did buy it?

personally cant wait to see them go... that dic lad seems like a sound bloke, and a fan

Well, I remember there were a lot of people against it from the beginning Daws (although not nearly as many as will now claim that they were against it from the beginning, if you get my meaning ).  But, there were, I think, a lot of people--and I'm one of them--who were prepared to give them a chance.  After all, Man U didn't implode as people predicted/hoped after the Glazers took over so there was hope that an influx of Yank cash might be the way forward.  Many of us took our cues from their early press conferences, where--despite the odd gaff--they gave the impression that they would uphold traditions and leave the footballing decisions to the footballing men.  Sadly, they've not done that and seem to be rather lighter in the cash department than they first let on as well.  Bottom line: they talked a good game a year ago but they've since been exposed for the muppets they are. 

Well bob, I think they didnt look the real deal from day one, and I was rather vocal in my thoughts about it and getting a lot of stick for it. Im not having a go at any supporter who thought that G + H were the right people to sell to but I think Parry and Moores should be ashamed of themselves and they are reponsible for the situation where the club is now held for ransom by these two spivs who had shown their true colours ever before they bought liverpool fc in ice hockey, baseball and in football in brazil aswell. All promises and lies.
I think having this absentee landlord idea with foster gillett representing G + H was never going to work, You cant run a football club from across the atlantic. Also the alarm bells should have been ringing when Gillett had to bring hicks on board to affor the club (all based on a conversation at a hockey game i might add). Also did it not dawn o G + H that the were selling to two men with other interests in other sports and therefore Liverpool FC was just another franchise to them anyway?
Moores should be barred from Anfield for his incompetence ( not just selling to G + h but his performance as chairman since 1991 whic to be honest has been very very poor) and Parry should have been sacked years ago.
I hope tht G  + H sell the club but they hold all the cards now and Liverpool FC are the ones to suffer.
Moores should resign as a mark of protest to the way the club has been run. He wont do he is a coward anyway.

Agreed!

[7_Kewell]

how did everyone feel when they both brought the club tho? and did people really think that nothing bad would happen when they did buy it?

personally cant wait to see them go... that dic lad seems like a sound bloke, and a fan

Well, I remember there were a lot of people against it from the beginning Daws (although not nearly as many as will now claim that they were against it from the beginning, if you get my meaning ).  But, there were, I think, a lot of people--and I'm one of them--who were prepared to give them a chance.  After all, Man U didn't implode as people predicted/hoped after the Glazers took over so there was hope that an influx of Yank cash might be the way forward.  Many of us took our cues from their early press conferences, where--despite the odd gaff--they gave the impression that they would uphold traditions and leave the footballing decisions to the footballing men.  Sadly, they've not done that and seem to be rather lighter in the cash department than they first let on as well.  Bottom line: they talked a good game a year ago but they've since been exposed for the muppets they are. 

Well bob, I think they didnt look the real deal from day one, and I was rather vocal in my thoughts about it and getting a lot of stick for it. Im not having a go at any supporter who thought that G + H were the right people to sell to but I think Parry and Moores should be ashamed of themselves and they are reponsible for the situation where the club is now held for ransom by these two spivs who had shown their true colours ever before they bought liverpool fc in ice hockey, baseball and in football in brazil aswell. All promises and lies.
I think having this absentee landlord idea with foster gillett representing G + H was never going to work, You cant run a football club from across the atlantic. Also the alarm bells should have been ringing when Gillett had to bring hicks on board to affor the club (all based on a conversation at a hockey game i might add). Also did it not dawn o G + H that the were selling to two men with other interests in other sports and therefore Liverpool FC was just another franchise to them anyway?
Moores should be barred from Anfield for his incompetence ( not just selling to G + h but his performance as chairman since 1991 whic to be honest has been very very poor) and Parry should have been sacked years ago.
I hope tht G  + H sell the club but they hold all the cards now and Liverpool FC are the ones to suffer.
Moores should resign as a mark of protest to the way the club has been run. He wont do he is a coward anyway.

top post.....moores is as much to blame here as anyone. He and Parry were touting LFC around the world for a few years before H+G turned up on the scene.  Like many, i hoped for the best....afterall these are rich men who wanted the best for our team....or so i hoped! 

Bottom line is, they're out of their depth and have made themselves look fools....lets hope the last laugh istn' at LFC's expense.

[nobybob]

I understand why everyone is saying make a statement at the next game but do you really believe they will be bothered in the slightest if we sing nasty songs at Foster or even sing nasty songs about them???. They don't care about us, they have probably pi55ed most of their employees or fans of other clubs they own a million times.  These are hard nosed multi millionaire buisness men.

Its all about the $ to them.  The only way to make them notice is to turn up outside the ground and don't go in.  and then do the same the next game.

Imagine the worlds press outside Anfield whilst the ground is empty.  The teams running out and there is nobody there. 

On monday the ground will be full as usual, which means we are once again putting money in the yanks pockets whilst they stick their little cox up our clubs a$$

Your course of action i feel is the only 1 that would actually hit the yanks were it hurt in the pocket. Could it be done i say yes! true it would need organisation but don't forget when a new song is first sung in the kop it just takes a few people to start it , before you know it the whole ground is singing it. And lets face it we all want these yank pr-cks out , they only for the money they don't give a toss about the team , the supporters , or the history . So why don't we at least try to cut off their cash flow?? they would sell in a flash if the gate receipts suddenly stopped . This is not i recommend lightly and sure some are going to say the team will suffer etc but i think they would know how we feel and why we did it. We could all turn up at the ground and sing outside to show our support to our team and our manager, but not go in and give another penny to these parasites. We are a special team and special supporters so why don't we show it??

[Sabre]

I'm nobody to say what's the right thing to do, Igor, Leon and the people that are in Liverpool know better than anybody.

But I know that in the world of football, sometimes you want to get rid of something bad, you open your arms to the incoming owners, and they can be even worse. The world is full of incompetents, and corrupt people.

While I like any sing, shout or demonstration supporting Rafa and claiming how things should be done and have been done in the past in this club, I don't know whether trying to hurt in their pocket, burning flags and things like that will help.

Sometimes is better a well known bad guy than an unknown one. Those americans have done mistakes, but also put some cash to buy players like Torres. It's nice to point them out they're screwing it up, but they should be given a chance to rectify, just like we give time to Rafa and ask him to rectify, or we give time to a player and ask him to improve. But this is an external view, only.

[7_Kewell]

While I like any sing, shout or demonstration supporting Rafa and claiming how things should be done and have been done in the past in this club, I don't know whether trying to hurt in their pocket, burning flags and things like that will help.

I agree...hurting the owners hurts LFC also.  I for one would never want to see noone turn up at Anfield in protest, simply because it would hurt our players and club.

[nobybob]

I'm nobody to say what's the right thing to do, Igor, Leon and the people that are in Liverpool know better than anybody.

But I know that in the world of football, sometimes you want to get rid of something bad, you open your arms to the incoming owners, and they can be even worse. The world is full of incompetents, and corrupt people.

While I like any sing, shout or demonstration supporting Rafa and claiming how things should be done and have been done in the past in this club, I don't know whether trying to hurt in their pocket, burning flags and things like that will help.

Sometimes is better a well known bad guy than an unknown one. Those americans have done mistakes, but also put some cash to buy players like Torres. It's nice to point them out they're screwing it up, but they should be given a chance to rectify, just like we give time to Rafa and ask him to rectify, or we give time to a player and ask him to improve. But this is an external view, only.

sorry sabre i think you are wrong . G&H have put no money of their own in to buy players , what they have done is get loans to buy players and use LFC as collateral. they ha vent put one dime of their own money in all they have done is take. Now they value the club at tens of millions more than they bought (mortgaged ) it for. and are looking to take as much as possible out of our club if selling. G&H don't have any power they are not the money men the big time mcalpines they made out. We have the power and we can withhold our money from hicks and co, then watch them run