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[tubby]

Hodsgen was picked because he doesn't mind having feck all to spend. Even with no Gerrard and Torres the squad is probably better than what he usually works with... but it's still not good enough for a top 4 finish. Any decent manager would not touch the club with a barge pole whilst those 2 owners are in charge.

[Thommo's perm]

What we didnt need was a massive ego coming in and trying to stamp his authority. Hodgson could be the perfect choice with his experience and manner. We will soon find out.
By the way what had Bob Paisley done before he took over from Shankly?

[shabelle50]

I am simply amazed that we have removed a manager who has won a European Cup, Uefa Cup and La liga titles and been immediatly snapped up by the current European Champions to replace him with a manager who in 30years of trying has won nothing worth a wa%k. And before people start spouting all the stats:
1) He was sacked by BLACKBURN !!!
2) He finished 12th last year behind Stoke and Blackburn.
3) He has no major honours to his name
4) He took Inter Milan out of Europe
5) He has won 4 away fixture in the last two season
His only real impressive stats are a 7th place finish with Fulham and a runners up spot in the Eufa. (Thats like saying Steve McLaren has an impressive record.
I really hope Im wrong and I will go to the games and support him and Liverpool with all my heart but I honestly think this is the beginning of mid table finishes for Liverpool for a good few years to come.

Whatever Rafa won counted for nothing in the end. He well and truly f'ucked us up and has done very nicely for himself. He never got to grips with the PL and won f'uck all in four years. His time was up. He knew it and some of us knew it.
No matter what Hodgson has or hasnt acheived I would rather have him than someone who had us playing the sh'ite football we did last season.

You're spot on Thommo'sPerm. The article appears to be suggesting that Benitez was controversial and regularly spoke up against H&G. The reality is the opposite. He allowed them to walk all over him when they wouldn't let him sign Barry and Keane. He allowed them to walk all over him before that when they approached Klinsmann and the night the team beat Luton in an FA Cup replay on the day it came out he refused to talk about it on the BEEB. He allowed them to walk all over him when it came to having the funds he was promised last summer.

I'd say Benitez was more than pretty reasonable with H&G over many many months if the truth be known. This notion of appeasment that has just come in because of the appointment of Hodgson is about as misguided as you can get. I remember in about April 2009 a report linking Liverpool with David Silva which was swiftly discounted by Benitez "we won't be signing him" he said.

The man was happy to have little spending power and went along with it. Once the team's fortunes began to nosedive in 2008-2009 as a result of how he was being marginalised he knew he had to go. To believe that Hodgson will stick around a long time if he doesn't get the money he needs is baloney.

[tubby]

They had a pretty decent team in place though still didn't they?

Anyway seems Torres thinks he's the right man for the job.



"I was happy he (Hodgson) got the job," said Torres. "I haven't had a chat with him yet but I will talk with him soon and we will see his ideas about the future. For now, my future is here. South Africa and the World Cup is too important to think about things after that."

He added: "I have a very important week still here and after that I will have time to talk with him and talk about my future."

"He did really well at Fulham and I am sure he can do better for Liverpool," Torres continued.

"He is a very good manager. He showed that in the past and in the last season with Fulham.

"Hopefully he will be the right man to give Liverpool the opportunity to be strong again."

[shabelle50]

"The man was happy to have little spending power and went along with it. Once the team's fortunes began to nosedive in 2008-2009 as a result of how he was being marginalised he knew he had to go. To believe that Hodgson will stick around a long time if he doesn't get the money he needs is baloney."

I meant season 2009-2010!

[Lando_Griffin]

I am simply amazed that we have removed a manager who has won a European Cup, Uefa Cup and La liga titles and been immediatly snapped up by the current European Champions to replace him with a manager who in 30years of trying has won nothing worth a wa%k. And before people start spouting all the stats:
1) He was sacked by BLACKBURN !!!
2) He finished 12th last year behind Stoke and Blackburn.
3) He has no major honours to his name
4) He took Inter Milan out of Europe
5) He has won 4 away fixture in the last two season
His only real impressive stats are a 7th place finish with Fulham and a runners up spot in the Eufa. (Thats like saying Steve McLaren has an impressive record.
I really hope Im wrong and I will go to the games and support him and Liverpool with all my heart but I honestly think this is the beginning of mid table finishes for Liverpool for a good few years to come.

Whatever Rafa won counted for nothing in the end. He well and truly f'ucked us up and has done very nicely for himself. He never got to grips with the PL and won f'uck all in four years. His time was up. He knew it and some of us knew it.
No matter what Hodgson has or hasnt acheived I would rather have him than someone who had us playing the sh'ite football we did last season.

You're spot on Thommo'sPerm. The article appears to be suggesting that Benitez was controversial and regularly spoke up against H&G. The reality is the opposite. He allowed them to walk all over him when they wouldn't let him sign Barry and Keane. He allowed them to walk all over him before that when they approached Klinsmann and the night the team beat Luton in an FA Cup replay on the day it came out he refused to talk about it on the BEEB. He allowed them to walk all over him when it came to having the funds he was promised last summer.

I'd say Benitez was more than pretty reasonable with H&G over many many months if the truth be known. This notion of appeasment that has just come in because of the appointment of Hodgson is about as misguided as you can get. I remember in about April 2009 a report linking Liverpool with David Silva which was swiftly discounted by Benitez "we won't be signing him" he said.

The man was happy to have little spending power and went along with it. Once the team's fortunes began to nosedive in 2008-2009 as a result of how he was being marginalised he knew he had to go. To believe that Hodgson will stick around a long time if he doesn't get the money he needs is baloney.

Well you pair are full of sh*t, I see...

Do everyone a favour and knock your heads together to save your pimp the bother.

Liverpool 442 could teach you both something.

[LFC2007]

The man was happy to have little spending power and went along with it. Once the team's fortunes began to nosedive in 2008-2009 as a result of how he was being marginalised he knew he had to go. To believe that Hodgson will stick around a long time if he doesn't get the money he needs is baloney.

Bizarre post.

In turn:

Why would Rafa have been "happy to have little spending power"? Quite often he actually expressed frustration at being unable to sign reinforcements of sufficient quality because of a lack of funds.

The 2008-2009 season was our best league finish under Rafa, our fortunes were, if anything, on the rise. They plummetted the following season.

One thing that impressed the board in the interview process was Hodgson's emphasis on getting more from the current crop of players, rather than on how much money would be available to sign new players.

[lakes10]

Hodsgen was picked because he doesn't mind having feck all to spend. Even with no Gerrard and Torres the squad is probably better than what he usually works with... but it's still not good enough for a top 4 finish. Any decent manager would not touch the club with a barge pole whilst those 2 owners are in charge.

how do you know he has nothing to spend, going by the radio and ssn today we could a a lot to spend.

[red till i die!!]

I am simply amazed that we have removed a manager who has won a European Cup, Uefa Cup and La liga titles and been immediatly snapped up by the current European Champions to replace him with a manager who in 30years of trying has won nothing worth a wa%k. And before people start spouting all the stats:
1) He was sacked by BLACKBURN !!!
2) He finished 12th last year behind Stoke and Blackburn.
3) He has no major honours to his name
4) He took Inter Milan out of Europe
5) He has won 4 away fixture in the last two season
His only real impressive stats are a 7th place finish with Fulham and a runners up spot in the Eufa. (Thats like saying Steve McLaren has an impressive record.
I really hope Im wrong and I will go to the games and support him and Liverpool with all my heart but I honestly think this is the beginning of mid table finishes for Liverpool for a good few years to come.

BUT HE HAS NEVER HAD A TEAM LIKE LIVERPOOL! WHO KNOWS WHAT WILL HAPPEN BECAUSE WITH OUR TEAM HE MAY WELL JUST BE WHAT WE NEED. IF U DONT LIKE IT...



...FUK OFF.

Well said LJ, here here, spot on

people on here get so carried away sometimes.
liverpool442's post does not deserve or warrant that reply.he is merely stating the obvious.
he is entitled to his opinion whether you like it or not!!

roy's record is there for all to see and it is very poor.personally i think we could have done much better than him, but he is here now and ill support him and see what he has to offer and hopefully he will bring us forward in the near future.

to be told to fook off for expressing a valid opinion isnt on.
 

[LFC2007]

Agree with Lee J. Nobody on here, not even Lakes, can predict with absolute certainty what will happen in the future. What we do know (with absolute certainty) is that lesser known managers have in the past made it at bigger clubs; quite a few in fact. I'm not saying he will go on to be one of those great managers, but that was never the expectation in the first place. The question is can he do a reasonabe job, and that would be to make the top four and go on a cup run? He should be able to achieve that so why can't people be a bit more open to the possibilities of what we could achieve under him, instead of why we're "certain to fail", or why he will be the "new Souness"? Is not part of being a fan looking more (but still within the parameters of realism) toward what we can achieve, instead of automatically looking to confirm our doom? For me it is.

[Benny The Noon]

Hodsgen was picked because he doesn't mind having feck all to spend. Even with no Gerrard and Torres the squad is probably better than what he usually works with... but it's still not good enough for a top 4 finish. Any decent manager would not touch the club with a barge pole whilst those 2 owners are in charge.

how do you know he has nothing to spend, going by the radio and ssn today we could a a lot to spend.

Where is this money coming from lakes ? More debt on the club ?

[Ola Mr Benitez]

I am simply amazed that we have removed a manager who has won a European Cup, Uefa Cup and La liga titles and been immediatly snapped up by the current European Champions to replace him with a manager who in 30years of trying has won nothing worth a wa%k. And before people start spouting all the stats:
1) He was sacked by BLACKBURN !!!
2) He finished 12th last year behind Stoke and Blackburn.
3) He has no major honours to his name
4) He took Inter Milan out of Europe
5) He has won 4 away fixture in the last two season
His only real impressive stats are a 7th place finish with Fulham and a runners up spot in the Eufa. (Thats like saying Steve McLaren has an impressive record.
I really hope Im wrong and I will go to the games and support him and Liverpool with all my heart but I honestly think this is the beginning of mid table finishes for Liverpool for a good few years to come.

BUT HE HAS NEVER HAD A TEAM LIKE LIVERPOOL! WHO KNOWS WHAT WILL HAPPEN BECAUSE WITH OUR TEAM HE MAY WELL JUST BE WHAT WE NEED. IF U DONT LIKE IT...



...FUK OFF.

Well said LJ, here here, spot on

people on here get so carried away sometimes.
liverpool442's post does not deserve or warrant that reply.he is merely stating the obvious.
he is entitled to his opinion whether you like it or not!!

roy's record is there for all to see and it is very poor.personally i think we could have done much better than him, but he is here now and ill support him and see what he has to offer and hopefully he will bring us forward in the near future.

to be told to fook off for expressing a valid opinion isnt on.
 

I don't think his record is poor, apart from Blackburn he has over achieved in every position he has held.

I think he will come in and have a look at what he has got, which isn't a bad bunch, and then get back to basics.. ie. Your a striker, so you will play up front, your a winger, so you,ll play on the wing.. its not rocket science.

I think that we will see a rejuvinated Liverpool at the start of next season and still believe that we will finish higher than 7th, especially if we hold on to Gerrard and Torres (I think Mascha's a gonna)

[mart]

He should be able to achieve that so why can't people be a bit more open to the possibilities of what we could achieve under him, instead of why we're "certain to fail"

Because of the clubs financial situation. The doom and gloom feeling isnt really about what Hodgson can or cant do.

[mart]

Hodsgen was picked because he doesn't mind having feck all to spend. Even with no Gerrard and Torres the squad is probably better than what he usually works with... but it's still not good enough for a top 4 finish. Any decent manager would not touch the club with a barge pole whilst those 2 owners are in charge.

how do you know he has nothing to spend, going by the radio and ssn today we could a a lot to spend.

Where is this money coming from lakes ? More debt on the club ?

Or perhaps he gets to spend half of what we get from selling Torres?

[LFC2007]

He should be able to achieve that so why can't people be a bit more open to the possibilities of what we could achieve under him, instead of why we're "certain to fail"

Because of the clubs financial situation. The doom and gloom feeling isnt really about what Hodgson can or cant do.

Of course, because we already know that for the club to move forward in the long-run, we need new owners. That's a given; but within the context of the "revised" expectations for the coming season, we should still be able to "achieve" a reasonable position, barring a complete sell off of all or most of our key players with little or none of any funds being reinvested. I don't believe that'll happen, though.