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[Redman in wales]

Liverpool have agreed a fee with Newcastle United for the transfer of Danny Guthrie to the North East. 

The former Academy player, who spent last season on loan at Bolton Wanderers, will now discuss personal terms with Newcastle boss Kevin Keegan before finalising the deal.
 
Liverpool FC Head of Press Ian Cotton said: "We have agreed a transfer fee with Newcastle United for the transfer of Danny Guthrie.
 
"We have now given Newcastle permission to speak directly with the player."

Source: .tv

[JoeTerp]

i feel gutted and embarrassed        just a couple of hours ago said I would rather have Lucas    

[JoeTerp]

I guess this sale can "justify" or "pay for"  most of the deals that we are going to make for these 17 year old starlets, so one of them better be good

[Fo Dne]

I'd have him over Lucas any day of the week.

[metalhead]

How much are we selling him for?

[Lando_Griffin]

Oh well.

[LFC2007]

He's very average IMO, and I'm surprised they're trying to sign him.

[Fo Dne]

He's very average IMO, and I'm surprised they're trying to sign him.

He's very average, yet Lucas is something special?

Please...

Guthrie has a touch and can spot a pass, he can also influence a game. He knows how to give the ball to a player then get it back and show for the centre halves to pass to... Unlike Lucas who floats through games he can also throw in a tackle. The only thing that really lets Guthrie down is his physical attributes.

You'll see next season anyway when he's doing well for Newcastle and we have to watch Lucas trying to be Fabregas and offering absolutely all in every game he plays again.

[LFC2007]

Stu, mate, you said you saw something in Lucas yourself IIRC.

I'm not saying he's the new Fabregas, far from it, but he's got good game intelligence, vision and passing and overal ability that suggests he might go on to be a quality player. If he's to improve though, he needs to work on his physique and fitness. He's nowhere near strong enough and needs to gain a yard of pace.

As for Guthrie, I think he's very average and I don't see as much intelligence or technical ability on the ball as I do with Lucas - I think there's a fair gap in class.

If he makes it at Newcastle, good for the lad, I wouldn't want it any other way - so long as he doesn't excel against us.

In summary, I disagree with you 

[Igor Zidane]

He's very average IMO, and I'm surprised they're trying to sign him.

He's very average, yet Lucas is something special?

Please...

Guthrie has a touch and can spot a pass, he can also influence a game. He knows how to give the ball to a player then get it back and show for the centre halves to pass to... Unlike Lucas who floats through games he can also throw in a tackle. The only thing that really lets Guthrie down is his physical attributes.

You'll see next season anyway when he's doing well for Newcastle and we have to watch Lucas trying to be Fabregas and offering absolutely all in every game he plays again.

Wrong , Lucas spots a pass a mile off , influence a game , stu did you watch the game against inter at home mate , the lad was every where , ok fair enough you don;t rate the lad , but you should''nt just forget the games he's played for us and the influence he's had . Lucas p!sses all over Guthrie i'm afraid , i'd like to see guthrie get into the Brazilian national squad . Sometimes stu , credit is due , even to players you don't rate.

[Fo Dne]

He's very average IMO, and I'm surprised they're trying to sign him.

He's very average, yet Lucas is something special?

Please...

Guthrie has a touch and can spot a pass, he can also influence a game. He knows how to give the ball to a player then get it back and show for the centre halves to pass to... Unlike Lucas who floats through games he can also throw in a tackle. The only thing that really lets Guthrie down is his physical attributes.

You'll see next season anyway when he's doing well for Newcastle and we have to watch Lucas trying to be Fabregas and offering absolutely all in every game he plays again.

Wrong , Lucas spots a pass a mile off , influence a game , stu did you watch the game against inter at home mate , the lad was every where , ok fair enough you don;t rate the lad , but you should''nt just forget the games he's played for us and the influence he's had . Lucas p!sses all over Guthrie i'm afraid , i'd like to see guthrie get into the Brazilian national squad . Sometimes stu , credit is due , even to players you don't rate.

Are you kidding? This the probably the exact game I'm refering to. I've never seen a player have as much of the ball in that night and do as little with it.

The amount of times he had chance to turn and get his head up and he gave it straight back to the player who passed it to him (regardless of them being under pressure or not) was beyond belief. He offers next to nothing apart from a body to pass to if you're under pressure.

He shown for the ball every time we had it (for once) but as soon as he got it done absoloutely nothing with it. Any capable Sunday league player could have done what he done for 45 minutes or so.

The lad lacks far to much confidence and ability to play in this league. His passing is at times very good, at others shocking but what worries me most is his inabiltiy to tackle and actually read the game from a defensive point of view. He also gets pushed off the ball FAR to easily which is something you can't do in this country.

As for Guthrie getting into the Brazil squad, how do you expect him to do that when he's english?

LFC2007, I saw an excellent five a side player in Lucas. I couldn't figure it out at first. Thats all he is. He's never going to be a top class premiership player. I hope I'm wrong, he's probably one player I'm not 100% sure on myself (unlike Babel, Baros and all the rest) there is something there but I'm 90% sure we'll never see him be what he could be.

[Scottbot]

The lad lacks far to much confidence and ability to play in this league. His passing is at times very good, at others shocking but what worries me most is his inabiltiy to tackle and actually read the game from a defensive point of view. He also gets pushed off the ball FAR to easily which is something you can't do in this country.

It's probably a little too early to be singing this lad's praises or writing him off to be honest. If you watched 10 of his games last season you'd probably watch 5 and think 'this kid can play a bit' and the other 5 you'd be scratching ya head and wondering what all the fuss was about. I'm happy to give him another 10-15 games before I make my mind up.

as for Guthrie, assuming we get the 3 million or so that was being bandied about when he was at Bolton it will be a decent piece of business for the club. For me he's a very solid lower to mid-table Premiership midfielder, a grafter with a bit of quality about him. i know the Saints fans really liked him down here wheh they had him on loan for the season + he's done a good job for Bolton so good luck too him.

[Redman in wales]

he's gone:

from nufc.co.uk
NEWCASTLE United have completed the signing of midfielder Danny Guthrie from Liverpool.

The 21-year-old put pen to paper on a four-year contract at St. James' Park on Friday evening after the Magpies agreed a fee with the Reds.

Danny, signed for an undisclosed fee, told nufc.co.uk: "I'm really happy to be joining Newcastle United.

"I'm ready to get involved straight away and I cannot wait to meet the boys and get started."

Danny spent last season on loan at Bolton Wanderers and was well liked by fans at the Reebok Stadium during his time there.

United boss Kevin Keegan told nufc.co.uk: "I'm absolutely delighted that we've got Danny.

"He proved himself in the Premier League last season so we know he can play at that level.

"He's at the right age and is a good signing for us."

Shrewsbury-born Danny is Newcastle's second signing of the summer following the arrival of Argentine international Jonas Gutierrez from Real Mallorca.

[Igor Zidane]

He's very average IMO, and I'm surprised they're trying to sign him.

He's very average, yet Lucas is something special?

Please...

Guthrie has a touch and can spot a pass, he can also influence a game. He knows how to give the ball to a player then get it back and show for the centre halves to pass to... Unlike Lucas who floats through games he can also throw in a tackle. The only thing that really lets Guthrie down is his physical attributes.

You'll see next season anyway when he's doing well for Newcastle and we have to watch Lucas trying to be Fabregas and offering absolutely all in every game he plays again.

Wrong , Lucas spots a pass a mile off , influence a game , stu did you watch the game against inter at home mate , the lad was every where , ok fair enough you don;t rate the lad , but you should''nt just forget the games he's played for us and the influence he's had . Lucas p!sses all over Guthrie i'm afraid , i'd like to see guthrie get into the Brazilian national squad . Sometimes stu , credit is due , even to players you don't rate.

Are you kidding? This the probably the exact game I'm refering to. I've never seen a player have as much of the ball in that night and do as little with it.

The amount of times he had chance to turn and get his head up and he gave it straight back to the player who passed it to him (regardless of them being under pressure or not) was beyond belief. He offers next to nothing apart from a body to pass to if you're under pressure.

He shown for the ball every time we had it (for once) but as soon as he got it done absoloutely nothing with it. Any capable Sunday league player could have done what he done for 45 minutes or so.

The lad lacks far to much confidence and ability to play in this league. His passing is at times very good, at others shocking but what worries me most is his inabiltiy to tackle and actually read the game from a defensive point of view. He also gets pushed off the ball FAR to easily which is something you can't do in this country.

As for Guthrie getting into the Brazil squad, how do you expect him to do that when he's english?

LFC2007, I saw an excellent five a side player in Lucas. I couldn't figure it out at first. Thats all he is. He's never going to be a top class premiership player. I hope I'm wrong, he's probably one player I'm not 100% sure on myself (unlike Babel, Baros and all the rest) there is something there but I'm 90% sure we'll never see him be what he could be.

Stu are we taliking about the same inter game where he came up against the likes of Zanetti and Cambiasso and held his own and didn't look out of place . FFs just give the lad a bit of feckin slack . Noone is saying he will be a pele or maradona and turn a game on it's head , what i'm saying is from what i've seen ,the lad has abiliity and and all he needs to do basically is pick up his speed of thought and get stronger on the ball and he will be fine in the prem . He can spot a pass ,he can come into our midfield and help control it , which he has shown already . The ability is there for all to see , and what i meant from him being in the Brrazilian squad is that it's obvious some people (the important people )think that he is more than just a Sunday 5-a-side player.

[JoeTerp]

Guthrie helped Bolton beat the Mancs ( one of his best games last year) and helped they earn a draw at Bayern Munich. Guthrie and Lucas are the same age, and Guthrie played better in the prem last season despite having lesser talent around him. WIth lucas and mascherano playing in the olympics at the beginning I don't see why we didn't give him a chance. He could have been a useful FREE squad player and if it didn't work out his price wouldn't have dropped by january. I don't see why people think Guthrie has no potential, how many 20 year olds were starting regularly in the prem last year? It was his first year at that high of a level too, why do people think Lucas will become so much better than Guthrie?