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Postby Redman in wales » Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:14 pm

stmichael wrote:I feel a bit weird to be honest, not confirmed yet obviously but Bascombe saying it pretty much nails a deal is very very close. Now its actually come to it happening, it feels weird. Cant explain it really. Not a bad weird as I trust what Moores and Parry have done here but weird all the same, cautious but looking forward I suppose.
 
I like every other supporter would hate for us to buy players each week and sell a load... I'd hate for us to become Chelsea, i.e sign a player for £20m then just loan him out till his contract runs out or he plays sh#te and sign someone else. I just want the manager to be able to get the players he wants then his managerial skills will do the rest.

your fears and charmless's are felt by all of us, but i'm 99.9% confident that we wont do a chelsea. The chavs were in a unquie position because they were the first team to get bought out and they were like a kid in a sweet shop - with no shopkeeper  - [with big beady eyes: i'll have that, i'll have that... i'll have that...and one of those....... and one of those... etc etc.

- now, we will be joining a long list of clubs that have money after buy-outs. like I said earlier utd havent gone out and done chelsea with the glaziers money (ok paying 17.5 for carrick was a bit silly) but they havent exactly completely changed their squad have they?

14 years ago blackburn paid southampton £3.6mil for a 22yr old shearer, who had already played and scored for england. Nowadays that deal would be worth 16-17mil. We need a cash injection to keep up with todays game... not to go silly and 'do a chelsea' ....... just to keep pace with the prices in the modern game
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Postby redmikey » Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:20 pm

what price your soul???

moores has taken the club as far as poss and see this as the best solution, for him it must be hard to let go,

in the game of today we need cash , and that is the difference beteewn sucess and nowhere, just hope the real fans can keep the bandwagon fans at bay when we do get the money as clubs that have sold up aren't a great advert imho

chavski and manure are cr@ppy fans with heart for the bad times, not somewhere i want lfc to go,

i am with st mike i don't know how to feel about this news , i am happy that the money will role in but dauted by the changes that will happen to the basis of the club

only time will tell but it is like talking to the old boys in the ale house about how football isn't what is was,
well even in my time so far footy has changed beyond belief,

the passion of the kop is a long forgoten story, even us that stood there as kids and will never forget togetherness of a bit of old concrete on the lesser games and not just epl games to stir the blood

jury is out for me
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Postby 67-1161385641 » Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:47 pm

Here's a post written by a young lad on talklfc.com called Wookieman. It's a well balanced piece of written work, well worth the read.

So it looks like the Moores chapter is finally on its last pages in forever growing historical book that is Liverpool Football Club. As one chapter draws to a close, a fresh, new one begins. Many are excited, some are worried and excited, some are worried and the small minority are against the move altogether, whether you are for or against the consortium which looks likely to seal off the Moores legacy at Anfield there is no denying the need for investment. We Liverpool fans have endured some highs and lows supporting Liverpool, most of the lows have come since the demise of Liverpool the once sole dominant force in English football since the passing of the enchanted gauntlet from Dalglish to Souness this has extinguished. All Liverpool fans want the one thing we haven’t managed to win in almost two decades, the title that eludes us and has done for years, the title which should be ours but somehow finds its way into other teams cabinets accept for ours. It’s the one trophy that even the oldest and youngest Liverpool fan yarn for. Now we have a chance to get what we want and have wanted so badly since 1990. We’ve come close in the past, most notably under Roy Evans in 1995/96, Gerard Houllier in 2001/02 season and you could also argue that if we had beaten Charlton, Man Utd and Fulham last season we could have won it under Benitez too. So close, yet so far from the bread and butter of this football club. This is a club starving because we have had to wait for so long to get our bread and butter, we’ll have to wait another season now.

Realistically out of the title race by November, Chelsea and Man Utd roll on into the distance and we’re left behind, in the shadow of the city we Scousers and OTT supporters truly hate Manchester. All we realistically have left is a few cup runs and even cups have lost the ability to seal the cracks in this football era, no trophy we win can make up for the hurt, pain and misery of not being able to watch our captains lift the Premiership trophy.

So it this the time that the man who has given the most important times of his life, given all he can give and do all he can do to step down as Chairman of our club? Yes it’s time, the move is pretty much set in stone and Moores’ Liverpool days are drawing to a close.

What does this mean for the Club? I don’t know, I cannot say, but although these are exciting times, where we will no doubt be saying good bye to old Anfield, which will forever be close in our hearts, to start a new era in a new stadium, a “New Anfield”. This is time where we say good bye to board members who have been at our club long before some of us were born, out with the old and in with the new it most certainly seems. This is where a minority or small majority of fans worry, the words that shudder down their spine, “out with the old and in with the new”. The most conservative Liverpool supporter will be worried, worried for the future, worried about the past. What will this consortium mean? What will this consortium do? Where will we go under them? All questions just waiting to be answered and sure enough they will be answered soon. The papers say he (the head of the consortium) is richer than Chelsea’s sugar daddy Roman Ambramovich. The Papers say he wants to make us a global brand, he wants to see everyone in Europe, Asia, South America, Africa, North America wearing Liverpool merchandise, he/ consortium wants to take out of the club as much as he puts and no in surprising doubt he/consortium wants to earn back more than what he puts in. This is fair enough, that’s how the modern day society works, and that’s how this forever growing capitalist society operates. Is this how Liverpool Football Club, soon to be Liverpool Public Limited Company (if we believe what’s written) well operate? Is our 114 year old history filled with hard work, honesty, guts and determination going to be used to cash in on world wide shirt, cup and other merchandise sales? Will the hard work that our players, managers, chairman, coaches, scouts put in to this club to make it what it is be sold in the name of money, which will no doubt go into our club and then be taken out by this consortium. Will our legacy vanish, will we lose the respect and reputation that managers like Shankly, Paisley, Fagan and countless others spent their lives building up? Will the foundations that make this club stand tall, above the rest come crashing down around our ears? Does modern day football, where money has far more meaning than the football played on the pitch is mean we have to sacrifice all this history and tradition just to be on the top of the pile where we truly belong? Is this new consortium worth us losing 114 years old history, because as Chelsea will find out and as Real Madrid have found out, without respect from oppositions players, managers and fans, without respect these glorious trophies aren’t worth their weight in gold.

These are the issues that the most Conservative Liverpool football fan will raise, these worries and fears are what they will be worried about, these are the people who will pick up the echo and The Times, who will surf the Internet going over the negatives. There is no denying we need investment, the Conservative core of Liverpool’s fan base cannot argue that we are fading faster than a batch of sea monkeys from our rivals, who in a few years without possible investment could not be our rivals anymore. There are many plus points, that many of us Liverpool fans can take away from this, we can now see some (not all) of Europe, the world’s finest talent playing in the red shirt, we will be able to compete with the very best on the pitch and off the pitch. Rafa and the next manager will be able to afford the players who they want and not settle for second or third choice players. We will have new things to sing about, we have the chances of more special nights like in Istanbul, we have a chance to compete not only short term with Europe’s best, and England’s finest clubs, but in the long term.

There are many reasons to worry, the possible radical reformation of our club’s structure, the possibility of revolutionary change that could either be a very positive happening or a very negative happening. There are many reasons to be happy too, the chance to capture old big ears every season and eclipse Real’s record, the chance to leave Man Utd in our dust in terms of Leagues, we have a chance to win number nineteen, twenty, twenty one and so forth. Whether you’re for or against investment, you cannot deny the need for investment and you cannot stop it from happening, we must stand united for our club in both the good and bad times.

A new chapter is coming, it’s a step away, but whilst it’s a happy/sad time (depends which side of the fence you are behind) it’s sad time to have to say good bye to David Moores who gave everything he possibly could the club, he helped provide an even playing field for us to expand our trophy cabinet and may he never be forgotten.

David Moores, you’ll never walk alone.

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Postby BOODIDDY » Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:53 pm

i can't wait for this to come to fruition i've been waiting for something concrete and i believe this is the best option out there. I mean the fifth richest man in the world! Get in there![B]

Now we as a club have a tradition and  a bueprint for success. Chelski never had that, reason they :censored: everything up. We laughed at the mancs when they sold out to the yanks but in reality nothing has really changed there. Cos they have a history and blueprint like ourselves.

It does feel strange but its more like butterfly's in my stomach. This club is being shot into the next stratosphere of world football. New shirt sponsorship, stadium, players and a :censored: pile of money.


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Trezeguet now

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Postby red37 » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:19 pm

id be tempted to be a little more reserved than some are suggesting when contemplating some huge infinate 'pot' of money available from which to draw on just for the time being. Of course there will be a bolstering of funds...possibly whatever it takes to create a true and persistant challenge to the championship title.. but lets not get carried away with dreams of a bottomless pit and a long list of superstars that 'no doubt' would jump at the chance to sign up....just for the time being, until all the facts have been aired. The whole thing is great news for the club, short, mid and eventually long-term. But i feel it will be done in a more dignified and conservative way than the splurging of millions here and there as witnessed at certain clubs. And rightly so. Liverpool FC dont hold court with 'galacticos' or mercenaries, out for a quick payday. Id imagine the traditionalists will be placated and taken into consideration, over and above the reactionary, impulsive methods that can only lead to ultimate collapse of an empire. The Arabs have a long and distinguished track record where integrity and honour are valued. - their handling of our precious club will, i suspect be no different.
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Postby kop11 » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:20 pm

its all over ssn now!!

liverpool have released a statment that they have moved into exclusive talks with the Dubai base.

does anyone think this talk will effect on the pitch diplays like it did to west ham???
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Postby Redman in wales » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:27 pm

BOODIDDY wrote:It does feel strange but its more like butterfly's in my stomach. This club is being shot into the next stratosphere of world football. New shirt sponsorship, stadium, players and a :censored: pile of money.


Maureen! Am a Bothered, am i really bovered?  We are considerably richer than yow!

Santa wish list:

Lahm
Deco/ Kaka
Cichino
Owen in summer
Trezeguet now

Get rid of crouch, pennant and let fowler contract run out and say cheers

:no

no offence but that just what we dont want.

cant you see that is exactly what chelsea did... create a silly santa wish list.... 'kid-in-the-sweet-shop' analagy i used above in this thread.

we have a good team (when they're all fit) that is missing one or two quality players.

Why do we need owen and trez-a-gay when we've got kuyt and bellamy who is largely untested for us as yet?
Deco/ Kaka? - when we already have gerrard, Alonso and momo???

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Postby Redman in wales » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:28 pm

red37 wrote:id be tempted to be a little more reserved than some are suggesting when contemplating some huge infinate 'pot' of money available from which to draw on just for the time being. Of course there will be a bolstering of funds...possibly whatever it takes to create a true and persistant challenge to the championship title.. but lets not get carried away with dreams of a bottomless pit and a long list of superstars that 'no doubt' would jump at the chance to sign up....just for the time being, until all the facts have been aired. The whole thing is great news for the club, short, mid and eventually long-term. But i feel it will be done in a more dignified and conservative way than the splurging of millions here and there as witnessed at certain clubs. And rightly so. Liverpool FC dont hold court with 'galacticos' or mercenaries, out for a quick payday. Id imagine the traditionalists will be placated and taken into consideration, over and above the reactionary, impulsive methods that can only lead to ultimate collapse of an empire. The Arabs have a long and distinguished track record where integrity and honour are valued. - their handling of our precious club will, i suspect be no different.

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Postby dward » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:35 pm

I feel strange. I'm delighted that Rafa might be able to get his No. 1 targets from now on but I'm kind of apprehensive of the things that might change for the worse. I really don't want us to become like Chelsea at all, as they are always ridiculed for buying the league, spending ludicrous amounts of money etc. Of course we need to take the next step to put us back where we belong. I'm excited, but worried slightly. I just really hope it doesn't affect the clubs reputation in any way. My smaller worry is that we might have DIC on our shirts. That would be embarrassing! :D
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Postby Leonmc0708 » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:40 pm

BOODIDDY wrote:i can't wait for this to come to fruition i've been waiting for something concrete and i believe this is the best option out there. I mean the fifth richest man in the world! Get in there![B]

Now we as a club have a tradition and  a bueprint for success. Chelski never had that, reason they :censored: everything up. We laughed at the mancs when they sold out to the yanks but in reality nothing has really changed there. Cos they have a history and blueprint like ourselves.

It does feel strange but its more like butterfly's in my stomach. This club is being shot into the next stratosphere of world football. New shirt sponsorship, stadium, players and a :censored: pile of money.


Maureen! Am a Bothered, am i really bovered?  We are considerably richer than yow!

Santa wish list:

Lahm
Deco/ Kaka
Cichino
Owen in summer
Trezeguet now

Get rid of crouch, pennant and let fowler contract run out and say cheers

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Postby puroresu » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:43 pm

Good news.  Hopefully this can be tied up ASAP.
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Postby metalhead » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:46 pm

dward wrote:I feel strange. I'm delighted that Rafa might be able to get his No. 1 targets from now on but I'm kind of apprehensive of the things that might change for the worse. I really don't want us to become like Chelsea at all, as they are always ridiculed for buying the league, spending ludicrous amounts of money etc. Of course we need to take the next step to put us back where we belong. I'm excited, but worried slightly. I just really hope it doesn't affect the clubs reputation in any way. My smaller worry is that we might have DIC on our shirts. That would be embarrassing! :D

I agree and understand your points really well dward!

No one wants Liverpool to become like chelsea, I don't want it either, but the thing is this is good for Liverpool because we can get some financial backing, plus we can improve the club. I think it goes down to Rafa at how the club should run when this is over. Maybe Rafa will go for good players and not players that Maureen bought. It depends on how things work.
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Postby peterc1992 » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:49 pm

i supose since its happening,it will be good to have the extra few quid in the summer to bring in some tops players,dont want to much of a change though
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Postby metalhead » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:50 pm

red37 wrote:The Arabs have a long and distinguished track record where integrity and honour are valued.

ofcourse they are  :D
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Postby parchpea » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:50 pm

Everyone trys to buy the league and those with the most to spend usually wins.

We shouldnt be ashamed or fearful of investment that secures a brand new stadium for supporters and pays off our huge and mounting debt.

Really we have no alternative in this. We have big debts and need a new ground. The club does not have the money to fund this and no one will lend them the £200m when they owe £80m already. This means the new ground plan is dead in the water.

Liverpool FC have absolutely no option but to sell out to rich foreign investors and thats why a staunch red like Moores is ready to hand it over. There is no way he would do this unless it was absolutely necessary.

I for one am excited by the reported deal and finally Liverpool can move forward debt free and with decent money to spend.

There is surely no one on this forum that would want us not to build a new stadium and carry on scraping by each year racking up debt and falling further behind our rivals.

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