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What the are you on about?

I understand we need a replacement for Big Sami. But that player must be of the same class AT LEAST. For now, Sami is still good enough, he's got at least another season in him. Next seasons budget on a centre back and left winger. This seasons on THE right winger.

[66-1112520797]

This thread was started about pace,why is there an obsession ?

Have you found the answer your looking for yet  ? 

[A.B.]

Stu do you still want to know why pace is important to a defender these days?

[XSD]

I wish this thread had been saved for after the weekend now.

[bigmick]

If the more recent posts are suggesting as I think they are that a lack of pace in Hyppia was significant in Liverpools defeat today then I have to say I don't necessarily agree. He got done by a piece of skill by Drogba which would have done for most, and I don't think he was anymore at fault than anybody else for the other goals. I'm all for buying a centre-back with pace and god knows we need another as cover anyway as we've only got two in the whole club of note, but to use the display today as a rod with which to beat up Hyppia is a little unfair in my book.

[tel]

You need pace at the back to recover from errors and mistakes. And defence was the most error prone I've seen all season.

We got caught for all 4 goals due to a lack of pace. The last one was just laughable how quickly Chelsea got numbers into the box.

Hyppia has enough experience not to get skinned like he did, or at least to make it difficult for Drogba to pick his pass. But if we're counting on his experience to overcome his lack of pace, forget it.

The game has passed him by and we're paying for it dearly.

[XSD]

If the more recent posts are suggesting as I think they are that a lack of pace in Hyppia was significant in Liverpools defeat today then I have to say I don't necessarily agree. He got done by a piece of skill by Drogba which would have done for most, and I don't think he was anymore at fault than anybody else for the other goals. I'm all for buying a centre-back with pace and god knows we need another as cover anyway as we've only got two in the whole club of note, but to use the display today as a rod with which to beat up Hyppia is a little unfair in my book.

Not Hyypia's fault, but it definetely dispells the idea our defence is perfect. Traore is poor and was totally exposed, Hyypia had a bad game and looked vulnerable as well.

[Houllier=LFC]

Its not just a matter of pace for Hyppia, his reactions are way too slow now to deal with fast players on the ground.

[maximus]

Can anyone please tell me when Hyppia EVER had 'pace' in all his time with LFC   

[wrighty (not mark!)]

I think it's right in saying you don't exactly need a really pacey centre back, but you don't want someone who can't move faster than the 32 on a saturday either.

It's all about reading the game as most of you know, if you can read the game you don't have to be faster than s*it of a shovel because you know what the opposition is going to do next.

If we are going to go for a player who in my opinion, has both qualities as well as youth is Ledley King. He has been exemplery on the international stage which shows he can stand the heat. I'm not saying Hyypia can't take the pressure I just feel he cant play so many games as he was able to do.

Even though Ledley King may be expensive due to the fact he is English, we all know that we will have a Premiership quality defender he can slot right in alongside Jamie Carragher with Hyypia and Whitbread as back up.

To finish this one off, if you are obsessed with pace.....
pick Ledley

If you believe someone who can read the game is more important than pace.

pick Ledley.

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I don't believe he's the answer. From what i've seen i think he's lacking technically and i don't believe he has good enough positional sense. Also i'm not sure about his reading of the game or Ariel ability.

Granted i haven't seen him ALOT, but frmo what i've seen he's not the answer.

[XSD]

Ledly King can head balls out of the air all day. He has made the occasional mistake but he has a lot of ability and can read the movement of a ball well.

[Lando_Griffin]

And the chances of him coming to LFC border on the anorexically slim. Jol's not daft.

[BOODIDDY]

Hyypia Stu is playing very poorly and has been for a while. I for one have never said we need just a pacey centre half. Just more quality, Sami clearly isn't there anymore and you r judgement is based on a few good games last year and the past seasons but good things come to an end.
As for robben, imo no way near best left sided player in the world.

Sami gets done for pace a hell of a lot. If we had a cb who was clasy and pacey along side carra you might find that rafa would push our midfield and defence higher up therefore we would be more offensive and probably more successful. Dont bring the cl win up because how great that was, it was great, we aren't probably gonna do that for a while again.

[bigmick]

I've said before on a number of occasions that Ledley King is the answer to any questions about a centre-half that I can think of. He is brilliant in the air, he gives you pace, power and positional sense in equal measure. He is a monster of a man and one you would want on your side in the trenches.
He's just come back from injury so hasn't been in the headlines but watch Spurs on the SKY and you'll see, he is the one I'd break the bank for. The fella who said earlier that someone like him would allow you to defend higher up the pitch is spot on. Zero chance of us signing him to be fair but he's the defender we need if you ask me, though nobody did.