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[Boxscarf]

Jordan Henderson clearly has talent, I watched a lot of Sunderland matches and he was always one of the stand out players in the matches I watched. He has great vision, great technique, great passing ability, crossing ability and when he's on form he's a handful in central midfield. Also for Sunderland he was always in and around the opposition box where he scored several goals from such advanced positions. I feel for the lad, he's still learning his trade and in comes Liverpool with a £16m bid, places a huge weight of expectation on his shoulders and then throws him out on the wing, is anyone surprised he's struggling.

Henderson is supposed to be a player for the future and yet because of his mammoth price tag, he is expected to start a majority of our games to justify such a crazy price and putting the lad on the right wing which is not his forte is just ridiculous. It's the same with Andy Carroll, you don't pay these sorts of money for good players with potential in the future to become great players, you pay these kinds of fees for proven quality, proven talent over a number of years playing at the highest levels. I've got a feeling Henderson like Carroll will become a good player for us, but that probably won't be for a couple of years. That's not their fault, that's our fault. We signed these players and immediately expected them to bed in and produce excellent displays of football that would get us Champions League football. 

That's not to say that Henderson has performed adequately on a consistent basis this season, I feel he's been very poor and it's understandable why supporters are getting on his back and he must do more in matches to really justify his continued selection, but hopefully in the summer Dalglish signs a right winger and brings Jordan into the center. As he's just wasted on the right and also very ineffective.

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Jordan Henderson clearly has talent, I watched a lot of Sunderland matches and he was always one of the stand out players in the matches I watched. He has great vision, great technique, great passing ability, crossing ability and when he's on form he's a handful in central midfield. Also for Sunderland he was always in and around the opposition box where he scored several goals from such advanced positions. I feel for the lad, he's still learning his trade and in comes Liverpool with a £16m bid, places a huge weight of expectation on his shoulders and then throws him out on the wing, is anyone surprised he's struggling.

Henderson is supposed to be a player for the future and yet because of his mammoth price tag, he is expected to start a majority of our games to justify such a crazy price and putting the lad on the right wing which is not his forte is just ridiculous. It's the same with Andy Carroll, you don't pay these sorts of money for good players with potential in the future to become great players, you pay these kinds of fees for proven quality, proven talent over a number of years playing at the highest levels. I've got a feeling Henderson like Carroll will become a good player for us, but that probably won't be for a couple of years. That's not their fault, that's our fault. We signed these players and immediately expected them to bed in and produce excellent displays of football that would get us Champions League football. 

That's not to say that Henderson has performed adequately on a consistent basis this season, I feel he's been very poor and it's understandable why supporters are getting on his back and he must do more in matches to really justify his continued selection, but hopefully in the summer Dalglish signs a right winger and brings Jordan into the center. As he's just wasted on the right and also very ineffective.

Good post

[fivecups]

Jordan Henderson clearly has talent, I watched a lot of Sunderland matches and he was always one of the stand out players in the matches I watched. He has great vision, great technique, great passing ability, crossing ability and when he's on form he's a handful in central midfield. Also for Sunderland he was always in and around the opposition box where he scored several goals from such advanced positions. I feel for the lad, he's still learning his trade and in comes Liverpool with a £16m bid, places a huge weight of expectation on his shoulders and then throws him out on the wing, is anyone surprised he's struggling.

Henderson is supposed to be a player for the future and yet because of his mammoth price tag, he is expected to start a majority of our games to justify such a crazy price and putting the lad on the right wing which is not his forte is just ridiculous. It's the same with Andy Carroll, you don't pay these sorts of money for good players with potential in the future to become great players, you pay these kinds of fees for proven quality, proven talent over a number of years playing at the highest levels. I've got a feeling Henderson like Carroll will become a good player for us, but that probably won't be for a couple of years. That's not their fault, that's our fault. We signed these players and immediately expected them to bed in and produce excellent displays of football that would get us Champions League football. 

That's not to say that Henderson has performed adequately on a consistent basis this season, I feel he's been very poor and it's understandable why supporters are getting on his back and he must do more in matches to really justify his continued selection, but hopefully in the summer Dalglish signs a right winger and brings Jordan into the center. As he's just wasted on the right and also very ineffective.

Excellent post. The question is, with so many knee-jerkers around, will they get a chance to come good?

[Roger Red Hat]

knee jerk reaction? he's been sh!t all season mate not just a one off game.

thats not fair really, he's not 'sh!t' - I will retract that statement, he just isn't good enough to get a first 11 start. it's not his vision to spot and deliver a great pass but other parts of his game, like shooting, row feking Z everytime. Get ya head down lad and strike the ball properly with a proper technique.

[Reg]

Passion's running high at the moment isn't it?

I thought the lad played well against Villa but there you go. What caught my eye though was Kenny just standing on the touchline staring at the game. Rafa was all arms and legs directing the orchestra, Kenny just watches. Then Steve Clark came up behind him looking like he was at a funeral and whispered in his ear. Again, no animation, no energy.

Either those 2 are sad b'stards or they've got a funny way of gee'ing up the players.

We all knew Rafa's foibles, he's the one who spoke his mind, played with his heart on his shoulder, sat on the deck and laughed and shouted. You knew where you were with Wafa, but Kenny... he's a dry one.

[mart]

Rafa was all arms and legs directing the orchestra, Kenny just watches.

He even found time to direct the TV-crew.

[Thommo's perm]

Passion's running high at the moment isn't it?

I thought the lad played well against Villa but there you go. What caught my eye though was Kenny just standing on the touchline staring at the game. Rafa was all arms and legs directing the orchestra, Kenny just watches. Then Steve Clark came up behind him looking like he was at a funeral and whispered in his ear. Again, no animation, no energy.

Either those 2 are sad b'stards or they've got a funny way of gee'ing up the players.

We all knew Rafa's foibles, he's the one who spoke his mind, played with his heart on his shoulder, sat on the deck and laughed and shouted. You knew where you were with Wafa, but Kenny... he's a dry one.

Rafas celebrations of goals were the best: looking at his watch or writing what he wanted from the chippy were my favourites

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Very strong rumour from over in the Wirral that Benitez is  being lined up as  Man Cities new manager .

[Kenny Kan]

Very strong rumour from over in the Wirral that Benitez is  being lined up as  Man Cities new manager .

The Wirral, isn't that where posh Scouser's live?

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Very strong rumour from over in the Wirral that Benitez is  being lined up as  Man Cities new manager .

The Wirral, isn't that where posh Scouser's live?

That's why you should pay heed to the rumour mate ,its where Rafa lives .

[Thommo's perm]

Very strong rumour from over in the Wirral that Benitez is  being lined up as  Man Cities new manager .

The Wirral, isn't that where posh Scouser's live?

"posh Scouser's"?
Is there such a thing?

[heimdall]

Jordan Henderson clearly has talent, I watched a lot of Sunderland matches and he was always one of the stand out players in the matches I watched. He has great vision, great technique, great passing ability, crossing ability and when he's on form he's a handful in central midfield. Also for Sunderland he was always in and around the opposition box where he scored several goals from such advanced positions. I feel for the lad, he's still learning his trade and in comes Liverpool with a £16m bid, places a huge weight of expectation on his shoulders and then throws him out on the wing, is anyone surprised he's struggling.

Henderson is supposed to be a player for the future and yet because of his mammoth price tag, he is expected to start a majority of our games to justify such a crazy price and putting the lad on the right wing which is not his forte is just ridiculous. It's the same with Andy Carroll, you don't pay these sorts of money for good players with potential in the future to become great players, you pay these kinds of fees for proven quality, proven talent over a number of years playing at the highest levels. I've got a feeling Henderson like Carroll will become a good player for us, but that probably won't be for a couple of years. That's not their fault, that's our fault. We signed these players and immediately expected them to bed in and produce excellent displays of football that would get us Champions League football. 

That's not to say that Henderson has performed adequately on a consistent basis this season, I feel he's been very poor and it's understandable why supporters are getting on his back and he must do more in matches to really justify his continued selection, but hopefully in the summer Dalglish signs a right winger and brings Jordan into the center. As he's just wasted on the right and also very ineffective.

Good post, nice to see someone else criticising Kenny's management, because surely the conclusion form your post is that we have a talented player who we are playing in the wrong position and not managing correctly. I think with good management he could become an excellent player for us, the only 2 signing s which are a complete waste are Adam and Carroll.

[woof woof !]

Good post, nice to see someone else criticising Kenny's management.

You are a first class muppet, another one with not long left on this forum. Not suggesting Kenny is beyond criticism but why the fk would anyone find it nice .

[heimdall]

Good post, nice to see someone else criticising Kenny's management.

You are a first class muppet, another one with not long left on this forum. Not suggesting Kenny is beyond criticism but why the fk would anyone find it nice .

My post was meant in jest and it wasn't that it's nice to criticise Kenny rather that it's nice that someone else agreed with me, a slight difference I hope you'll agree.

[stmichael]

if i was confused about his best position before last night i'm even more confused now. thought he did really well at right back