Liverpool FC Forum

[The_Rock]

Whatever RB does, i believe he is doing for the good for LFC. So if he thinks about selling hamann, so be it.

I also think that this will be hamann's final year with us. Hope he doesn't go on free though.

[banana]

For heavens sake. We have just signed 3 new midfielders. Like it or not some players will become surplus to requirements. I do not think we need Hamann, Diao, Biscan etc. as cover. We should sell at least one of them. Diao and Biscan can't be sold for money. Hamann may be sold for a couple of millions to a german club. Finnan should also be sold. He has no future here. He can't play it Rafa style and must go. Keeping players around just because they are good and experienced makes no sense. Moral will suffer if big name players can't get into the team. I also doubt that these high rollers are the best subs. Why can't a young hungry lad fighting for a place in the team and a future in pro football do a good job on the subs bench?

[115-1073096938]

So lets just say Alonso picks an injury up next week on his first day of training and Garcia does aswell.

We then have a midfield of...

Kewell, Biscan, Diao, Gerrard.

No sorry, you are a moron.

Kewell, Hamann, Gerrard, Finnan looks and is twice as strong as we actually have two players who can kick a ball.

Its about options. Hamann gives us options.

He also gives us an option of moving Gerrard onto the right wing should we need him there.

Banana, your opinions make no sense. Why don't we just sell all the squad players and use all the kids as backup, sell Gerrard while we're at it aswell as we have Alonso now, i mean we've just sold Owen, so why not follow suit and sell our current best player again. Then why don't sell Kewell and Hyypia aswell....

How bloody stupid are you lad?

[LFC #1]

depth is so importnat, you need quality backup players in case of injuries, lack of form etc. If you look at the curent top 3 in England, ManU, Chelsea and Arsenal all have good quality players sitting on the bench, players who would start in most other premiership teams.

To take ManU for example. last week against Chelsea they had something like 8 players out because of injuries, bans and players on olympic duty, yet they could still field a relativley strong side which gave Chelsea a good fight in a close 1-0 match.

Over the course of a season, especially as we are in Europe, we will playing 50+ games with 2 games a week on occasions. TYo have a successful season , the team needs to have depth and quality replacements, as you can't expect anyone to play every single game for 90 minutes.
Thankfully with the new signings, depth has been added to our midfield and keeping the likes of Hamann and Finnan as back ups is wise as long as they are willing to play that role in the team.

[A.B.]

depth is so importnat, you need quality backup players in case of injuries, lack of form etc. If you look at the curent top 3 in England, ManU, Chelsea and Arsenal all have good quality players sitting on the bench, players who would start in most other premiership teams.

To take ManU for example. last week against Chelsea they had something like 8 players out because of injuries, bans and players on olympic duty, yet they could still field a relativley strong side which gave Chelsea a good fight in a close 1-0 match.

Over the course of a season, especially as we are in Europe, we will playing 50+ games with 2 games a week on occasions. TYo have a successful season , the team needs to have depth and quality replacements, as you can't expect anyone to play every single game for 90 minutes.
Thankfully with the new signings, depth has been added to our midfield and keeping the likes of Hamann and Finnan as back ups is wise as long as they are willing to play that role in the team.

Correction,10 players.

We can't depend on 11 starting players, we need quality sub's who can play good if anybody gets injured.

[whylongball?]

whoever thinks Hamann should go is really idiotic, no knowledge of football. He's one of the best def mid in the world. Excellent tackling, good passing, more experienced than SG in controlling the pace of the game.

[azriahmad]

Look at his game today. Hamann is an excellent player, a wee bit slow and maybe perhaps past his peak which in my opinion was in 2002, but still very good nonetheless. Should keep him and perhaps if he were to be sold, it should be done in the Jan transfer window, as Supersub suggested, when the new players bve had the chance to bed in. Perhaps we should give him a 2 year extension and see how he performs, much like how Arsenal has done with Bergkamp with the successive 1 year contracts.

Finnan? I am not convinced that he is Liverpool quality and we seem to have capable reserves. If a good offer comes along, why not sell?

[madred]

I think its just a matter of days now before Finnan will seal a move to Spurs. Finnan didnt play that badly today but he's no right midfielder and im sure as soon as the newcomers are ready to play than he will be surplus to requirements. Didi is still a class act and still has a part to play this season under Rafa. Having him around is still vital to the younger players in the squad with all his experience.

[greenred]

I never felt Finnan was the right player for Liverpool,another Houllier misfit.Hamman is another story,no way should we let him go.The transfer fee would be negligible,the loss would be inestimable.Didi has to stay.

[Rafa]

I agree with Finnan never EVER liked the guy.

But to sell Hamann lol, whatever, get yourself to some Liverpool games will and watch Hamann, he is quality. No doubt he will give way for Alonso, but Hamann is pure class, and very good backup. Hamann played class again today, along wiv Gerrard & Carragher

[anfieldadorer]

So lets just say Alonso picks an injury up next week on his first day of training and Garcia does aswell.

We then have a midfield of...

Kewell, Biscan, Diao, Gerrard.

No sorry, you are a moron.

Kewell, Hamann, Gerrard, Finnan looks and is twice as strong as we actually have two players who can kick a ball.

Its about options. Hamann gives us options.

He also gives us an option of moving Gerrard onto the right wing should we need him there.

Banana, your opinions make no sense. Why don't we just sell all the squad players and use all the kids as backup, sell Gerrard while we're at it aswell as we have Alonso now, i mean we've just sold Owen, so why not follow suit and sell our current best player again. Then why don't sell Kewell and Hyypia aswell....

How bloody stupid are you lad?

All true to me except the "bloody stupid" one 

[gerrard_steven]

Hamann is one of the most under rated players in the premiership he is quality and does all the jobs no1 wants to do and does them very well he breaks the game up he makes the game easier for the defenders and has soo much experience obviously he will make way for alonso but alonso make even take a season to get use to the prem and therefore hamann can provide a bit of stability in that position and can give some help and advice to alonso because hes not guaranteed just to coem and play the way he can straight away.

Ok finanns not the best of players but hes a right defender not a midfilder he can provide good cover for josemi the players who need to be sold are diao and maybe biscan but im not sure about him as his recent performnaces in pre season suggest other wise but i would rather have hamann as back up to biscan and diao and day of the year

[akumaface]

Agree 200% gerrara_steven! I had defended Hamann here numerous time and some had suggested to have Biscan over Hamann is really a joke. There is no comparison between the two. To compare Hamann to Biscan was the stupidest thing I had ever heard. Hamann is a very intelligent player and his tackle and defending is second to none (maybe veira is better at that position). He is an asset we should appreciate to have. He is really a true professional and I'm sure Rafa sees that as well. Hope that he will get an extension as some of you had suggested.

[banana]

Picking a fight with me are you Stu?
I don't know why you cannot accept other peoples opinions. And I'll tell you kid your name calling and big mouth attitude only make you look ridiculous and make your posts and comments silly. Why can't you behave like a gentleman instead?

And why can't you at least try to use some brains and analyze my comments instead of just ripping them apart at first notice. If you do not understand that having Gerrard as a sure pick in midfield leaves Hamann, Biscan, Diao and Alonso fighting for one spot. This is in my opinion too many players. Also Cheyrou and Le Tallec will some day return. Garcia can play there as well. And I can name two kids in the academy who looks like good prospects in the centre of the field. How many midfielders do we need? And your what if argumentation do not hold. If Garcia and Alonso gets injured then we need Hamann and Diao etc.. this is your main point. This makes no sense at all Stu. The same reasooning can be used by me to strenghten my position even further. What if Hyypia and Carragher get injured? Then do you think it helps with a good selection of midfielders? And what if Cisse and Baros get injured? Put Hamann and Diao up front? If you do not understand this I can't help you Stu, I simply can't. You have to look at the big picture. Consider the pros and cons. Fact is we have a small squad except in midfield. We need defenders and maybe one striker, we have lots of midfielders, we need money to sign defenders, where should this money come from Stu? Before we can buy, we need to raise money by selling players. Where can we afford to sell? Answer is ; where we have plenty of cover.

You don't need to reply lad. All this is self evident. Just wisen up and try to better yourselfes. Peace.

[barnesrush]

we need strong reserves this season.... the youngsters are unproven as are diao, biscan, garcia and alonso. you never know how players will react to playing in a new league. cheyrou and le tallec wont be back for at least a year if ever so stop trying to play the high and mighty banana you dont know everything if much at all