Do you still believe.. - This team can win the title?

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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:47 pm

heimdall wrote:Now we are going deep psychology, I am scared by myself.  :lookaround  :D

You reject most of your countrymen's ideals with a venomous repulsion ,therefore distancing yourself from the very lineage that should  define you .... thats if we are indeed travelling down the deep psychology route   :D
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Postby LittleHobo » Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:54 pm

Not enough goals in this squad to win the league

we got away with not having proper back up for torres last season but this season we are badly exposed
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Postby Effes » Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:30 pm

Zidane wrote:IMO we have as good a chance as anyone to win it in the next few years if not better, we were the favorites heading in this season

Factually wrong mate - we were third favourites with every single bookie.
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Postby LFC2007 » Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:31 pm

If Aquilani turns out to be a sensation, and if Pacheco can make it as a realistic attacking option, and if Kelly can come in and do a decent job at RB or CB, then we may have a smidgeon of a chance.

Otherwise I'd say no - it's not at all likely. Essentially that's because I don't believe we can win the league with a midfield mainstay of Masch-Lucas, and I don't believe we can win the league if our only alternative striking options are Kuyt and Ngog. 

If we want to have a realistic shot at it, as a minimum we need one proper midfielder and one proper striker. That midfielder has to be an above average passer of the ball who is able to hold is own - someone like Barry - and that striker has to be capable of holding the ball up and posing a decent goal threat, someone like Jones or Huntelaar.

Ideally, though, I'd want to see two proper strikers come in, with Pacheco stepping up too, providing four viable attacking options (Pacheco is versatile). Along with the new CM and strikers, I'd want another CB - a commanding one like Dunne. To part-fund these moves I'd be shipping out Babel, Degen, Ngog and possibly Skrtel and Lucas.

But, changes in personnel will count for little if the players don't apply themselves - another assumption which up until this season tended to be safe. And I suppose that's where the present and future situation folds in. We've seen a return to the basics of late - prompting this thread no doubt - but having experienced so many false dawns in a season of such expectation, I think we'll need to see a more extended period of back-to-basics football before we can have the same degree of confidence - as before - in that assumption.
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Postby tubby » Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:18 pm

red till i die!! wrote:
bavlondon wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:We need to rid ourselves of the current owners ,before we envisage accomplishing the Holy Grail, we need to all make a concerted effort to throw our support behind S.O.S and the  Ideal that deems what is happening at Liverpool Fc a complete and total travesty that should have no place in football in general ........ that said though fella I admire your honesty and to answer your initial question yes I think Liverpool will win the League in the not to distant future ,but not unsurprisingly with these owners   ???

What he said

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Postby NANNY RED » Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:34 pm

Heimdell stop gettin your boxers in a twist. your jumping on people here when no one has even mentioned your name, if i wanna slap Red an Igor or whoever on the back i will because i agree with what they said, Im sorry but if you dont believe in us what the fu.ck are you doing supporting us, And dont come back with the old i can support who i like, or ive supported us for years , not interrested . You have gotta have some belief or what the point,
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Postby roberto green » Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:39 pm

tbh there is 3rd and 4th up for grabs now between us,Arsenal and Man City in my eyes and we always come strong in the 2nd half of the season so I am a believer
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Postby Rockthekop » Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:15 pm

If can play like we did in the second half of last season we can win the league but that's not the usual way we play under Rafa unfortunately. 

We drew too many games last season not because we had injuries, bad luck or any other excuse you care to use.  We simply didn't go for the jugular and that is how you turn draws into wins.

Man Utd have done that time and time again over the years, just like old Liverpool used to do.  Rafa could win the league if he adopted a less cautious approach but I don't see him changing that.

You don't win prem leagues titles with negative football.
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:31 pm

supersub wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:I said what everyone would say if it hadn't  already been said by someone who said it better :D

I agree with this and also the post referring to the co-habiting postion of heimdall and parchpea.... :laugh:

I believe its Parchpea and Heimdall now if you get my drift  :D
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Postby J*o*n*D*o*e » Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:41 pm

Could we win the league, yes we could with the right backing in the transfer market, if we end up having to sell to buy again then we`ll have to make do with a top 4 finish or like this season, a scrap for it.
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Postby Emerald Red » Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:31 pm

Rush Job wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:
heimdall wrote:I don't think we will ever win under Rafa, we need new management and a change of owners wouldn't hurt either. We need a big cash injection from somewhere, we have one asset which could give us that but he would never be sold, the fans would revolt.

:blush: You live alone am I correct ?

Na mate, he`s got a goldfish.

Which has a better memory and is more intelligent. Probably got a bigger knob too, but there you go.

Anyway, I do believe this current side is punching slightly above it's weight. It certainly did last season, and did so by a few weight classes. I said years ago that we'd never win a title while Kuyt is a right winger. I still stand by that, and we also need another world class forward, and wide player. RB is still a niggling issue amazingly still, as when Johnson gets injured we're somewhat lacking and don't tell me Degen is there as back up, because he's not a right back at any rate. I do think that for the most part, the inclusion of Masch and Lucas isn't needed, and perhaps Rafa needs to be more daring and less cautious regarding that selection, but other than those things, I do believe that we can and will win the title under Benitez. If he's given 'X' amount of money that he requires to sign the real quality that is needed for the first team in a single summer, then this squad will be looking very strong indeed, Oh, and someone needs to shoot the c*nt that put a hex on us as well. That will do.
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Postby Emerald Red » Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:35 pm

I forgot to mention, the Yanks need to f*ck off and keep their dirty kacks out of the f*cking press. It seems that every time they've opened their gob, we take a nosedive. Let the people who know about football actually do their job and maybe the job will get done, I dunno?
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Postby account deleted by request » Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:49 pm

I think the team has UNDERPERFORMED more than "punched above its weight" with last season being the obvious exception........ when almost everything went our way and we still managed to throw it away.

I don't believe we will win the league under Rafa unless we get a huge transfer budget of Citeh proportions, but I think with a new manager and a reasonable transfer fund we could get this team performing CONSISTANTLY to its best level and actually win the title. We have 3 or 4 world class players, but how long are they going to hang around if we consistantly lose points because of the managers mistakes.

I believe in the team, but sadly I no longer believe in this manager.
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Postby peterc1992 » Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:17 pm

heimdall wrote:double post

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Postby account deleted by request » Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:37 pm

Emerald Red wrote:I forgot to mention, the Yanks need to f*ck off

Spot on Emerald
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