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Postby RAFABENITEZ » Fri Apr 15, 2005 9:56 pm

his effort to win the ball after being tackled is awful as is his control, sell him please!!! buy Bojinov
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Postby Woollyback » Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:27 pm

jonnymac1979 wrote:I think Baros will go in the summer, his record isn't that bad with us, but like someone said above, he doesn't fit into the scheme really does he?

Looking back on his time at Anfield if/when he leaves, he can take comfort in the fact that due to the circumstances, he got what he wanted, which was to be first choice striker, he was given all the chances in the world as first choice striker, so he has no complaints if the manager decides he is not good enough.  He's had his chance.

For the record, he is an excellent player with an effective style of play.  He can run at defences and usually has the better of them when he feels like it.

I don't think he will settle for a squad player role any more, so whatever happens Milan, good luck for the future. :)

spot on again jonny :)
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Postby yckatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:49 pm

i`d keep him, i think sinima pongolle, mellor and le tallec should go before milan.
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Postby Dalglish » Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:59 pm

There are players who leave Anfield and disappoint you with their attitudes and opinions which come out after they leave. With Baros we already know what the soundbites are going to be cos we have heard most of them already from his mouth ???

The reality in the modern game is that there are very few "loyalty" players. You could argue that at LFC there are a couple maybe , Carra is definitly loyal, I'd nominate Hamann and possibly Gerrardalthough surely the next few months will determine that .

But with Milan Baros whilst we all know he is 100% comitted to  himself we also have come to discover that he has varying degrees of loyalty to LFC depending largely on whether he is IN the team or not. I'm trying very hard not to get too personal about this guy but suffice to say i won't be shedding any tears when (not if) he leaves ...........
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Postby JBG » Sat Apr 16, 2005 12:42 am

Baros will move on this summer, I'd put my house on it. I don't think he'll ever hit the heights he reached last summer in Portugal.
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Postby Woollyback » Sat Apr 16, 2005 12:53 am

If you look at a lot of the team they've noticeably impoved under Rafa but I think we are seeing Baros at his limits already. He's a good player but I don't think he's capable of anything over and above what he's doing already.

Definitely going in the summer, but at least we'll get a decent fee for him. I hope we sell him abroad so he can't do the obligatory "come back to haunt us with a goal" like Berger, Anelka and so on
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Postby Igor Zidane » Sat Apr 16, 2005 12:55 am

I think baros's future will be considered for him by rafa,he hasn't been know where near consistant enough this season and he can't have the excuse of not having the oppotunity this year,dont get me wrong i think he tries his best every game but,hes just not good enough,his positional sense seems ok but his finishing is poor,his first touch is woeful with his back to goal and his ability to look for team mates in better positions is very poor i know you have to be somewhat greedy to be a striker but,he is seriously selfish when attacking goal.
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Postby JohnnyAldridge fan » Sat Apr 16, 2005 2:05 am

CU Baros and I hope you bring a few quid in for us,nothing else to add.
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Postby bedlovedays » Sat Apr 16, 2005 12:19 pm

sell baros,,,,,,his job is to put the ball in the net when he gets the chance and he just doesn't.  Been watching him miss clear cut chances for two years now and it's getting ridiculous.  Benitez knows it, kept him out of necessity, going in the summer, said it as soon as Cisse went down.  If Owen can go Baros can go.

Le Tallec is looking good on the ball, incredibly poised in the Juve game.  He's staying for sure.

Pognolle,,,,would give him some time but not much............

Mellor, does nobody remember the Arsenal goal from 25 yards and the goal against Olympiakos, he also assited stevies goal agianst Olympiakos.  Deserves some consideration no?  How about his attitude?  Not bad eh?

There is also the question of diouf, what do u see happening with him?  I'd say Rafa brings him back next year, gets what he can out of him and goes from there,,,,,,,

Cisse says we can win the champions league,,,, not hearing that out of Baros's mouth,,,,,,"There is no reason why we cannot win this competition now"

"Fellow striker Milan Baros, who serves the final match of his domestic ban today, says reaching the last four of the Champions League represents the biggest success of his career to date. "

What about Garcia as a striker?  Scored three against leverkusen ( one at home two away! and one against Juve,,!)
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Postby JC_81 » Sat Apr 16, 2005 1:24 pm

bedlovedays wrote:sell baros,,,,,,his job is to put the ball in the net when he gets the chance and he just doesn't.  Been watching him miss clear cut chances for two years now and it's getting ridiculous.  Benitez knows it, kept him out of necessity, going in the summer, said it as soon as Cisse went down.  If Owen can go Baros can go.

Le Tallec is looking good on the ball, incredibly poised in the Juve game.  He's staying for sure.

Pognolle,,,,would give him some time but not much............

Mellor, does nobody remember the Arsenal goal from 25 yards and the goal against Olympiakos, he also assited stevies goal agianst Olympiakos.  Deserves some consideration no?  How about his attitude?  Not bad eh?

There is also the question of diouf, what do u see happening with him?  I'd say Rafa brings him back next year, gets what he can out of him and goes from there,,,,,,,

Cisse says we can win the champions league,,,, not hearing that out of Baros's mouth,,,,,,"There is no reason why we cannot win this competition now"

"Fellow striker Milan Baros, who serves the final match of his domestic ban today, says reaching the last four of the Champions League represents the biggest success of his career to date. "

What about Garcia as a striker?  Scored three against leverkusen ( one at home two away! and one against Juve,,!)

Ridiculous post mate

I know Baros has his critics on here (I'm not one of them though) and I know many don't think he fits in to our style of play or that his attitude is bad, but don't think many of them would say that le tallec, pongolle or mellor are in the same league as him talent-wise.

Pongolle has potential but I still think le tallec and Mellor aren't good enough

As for bringing back diouf but selling Baros, get a grip!!

Baros has still been one of our best players this season despite his inconsistencies at times.  You don't sell your best players, bottom line.
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Postby 115-1073096938 » Sat Apr 16, 2005 8:39 pm

Pongolle is a better player.
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Postby yckatbjywtbiastkamb » Sat Apr 16, 2005 8:42 pm

stu_the_red wrote:Pongolle is a better player.

no he isnt.
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Postby Woollyback » Sat Apr 16, 2005 9:20 pm

yckatbjywtbiastkamb wrote:
stu_the_red wrote:Pongolle is a better player.

no he isnt.

He's almost at Baros's level now, even though he's had precious few chances to show what he can do. The difference is that he looks like he has the potential to be a whole lot better than Baros. Even though he is younger he has shown so much more maturity and footballing intelligence than Baros ever will.

Don't get me wrong I quite like the way Baros makes a complete handful of himself and has given 110% in most games he's played, but the attitude changes the minute he's off the field. I've got no time for ANY player having a bad attitude, let alone a player who's game has some blatant weaknesses like Baros.

It's a shame he couldn't have done better but I won't be particularly sad to see him go, especially given the kind of fee we'll get for him

Incidentally there was something in today's Mirror attributing the following comments to Rafa (this is the gist of it, not his actual quote) "Our success in Europe will almost certainly lead to Liverpool signing several high-profile players in the summer"

Baros out, a a top-class proven striker in? I wonder who Rafa has in mind?
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Postby yckatbjywtbiastkamb » Sat Apr 16, 2005 9:57 pm

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yckatbjywtbiastkamb wrote:
stu_the_red wrote:Pongolle is a better player.

no he isnt.

He's almost at Baros's level now, even though he's had precious few chances to show what he can do. The difference is that he looks like he has the potential to be a whole lot better than Baros. Even though he is younger he has shown so much more maturity and footballing intelligence than Baros ever will.

Don't get me wrong I quite like the way Baros makes a complete handful of himself and has given 110% in most games he's played, but the attitude changes the minute he's off the field. I've got no time for ANY player having a bad attitude, let alone a player who's game has some blatant weaknesses like Baros.

It's a shame he couldn't have done better but I won't be particularly sad to see him go, especially given the kind of fee we'll get for him

Incidentally there was something in today's Mirror attributing the following comments to Rafa (this is the gist of it, not his actual quote) "Our success in Europe will almost certainly lead to Liverpool signing several high-profile players in the summer"

Baros out, a a top-class proven striker in? I wonder who Rafa has in mind?

pongolle`s not a striker in my opinion he`s too lightweight and try`s too many flicks.
baros isnt the best player i`ve ever seen and his attitude isnt the greatest at times but people are being unfair to the lad. people forget how he stretches defences and a lot of the chances he misses he tends to create himself with his hard work ethic and he is still our top scorer.
it winds me up when liverpool fans just seem to float from player to player looking for a scapegoat to slag off.......traore - garcia - hypia - dudek etc. etc. that particular player whoever it may be seems to get blamed for all our ills at that particular time. gerrard blasts a pen over the bar and morientes missess a sitter today from eight yards out at a critical stage in both the game and the season and people are on here after the game slagging baros off for missing chances.
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Postby coolsobs » Sat Apr 16, 2005 10:11 pm

yckatbjywtbiastkamb wrote:
Woollyback wrote:
yckatbjywtbiastkamb wrote:
stu_the_red wrote:Pongolle is a better player.

no he isnt.

He's almost at Baros's level now, even though he's had precious few chances to show what he can do. The difference is that he looks like he has the potential to be a whole lot better than Baros. Even though he is younger he has shown so much more maturity and footballing intelligence than Baros ever will.

Don't get me wrong I quite like the way Baros makes a complete handful of himself and has given 110% in most games he's played, but the attitude changes the minute he's off the field. I've got no time for ANY player having a bad attitude, let alone a player who's game has some blatant weaknesses like Baros.

It's a shame he couldn't have done better but I won't be particularly sad to see him go, especially given the kind of fee we'll get for him

Incidentally there was something in today's Mirror attributing the following comments to Rafa (this is the gist of it, not his actual quote) "Our success in Europe will almost certainly lead to Liverpool signing several high-profile players in the summer"

Baros out, a a top-class proven striker in? I wonder who Rafa has in mind?

pongolle`s not a striker in my opinion he`s too lightweight and try`s too many flicks.
baros isnt the best player i`ve ever seen and his attitude isnt the greatest at times but people are being unfair to the lad. people forget how he stretches defences and a lot of the chances he misses he tends to create himself with his hard work ethic and he is still our top scorer.
it winds me up when liverpool fans just seem to float from player to player looking for a scapegoat to slag off.......traore - garcia - hypia - dudek etc. etc. that particular player whoever it may be seems to get blamed for all our ills at that particular time. gerrard blasts a pen over the bar and morientes missess a sitter today from eight yards out at a critical stage in both the game and the season and people are on here after the game slagging baros off for missing chances.

very well said i agree completely.I couldn't have said it better myself
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