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Postby Emerald Red » Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:00 pm

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heimdall wrote:It would have been a great result if we were playing against 11 men and Fabregas was on the pitch.
We had half an hour against 10 men and if Rafa is a tactical wizard he should have been sitting at home and worked out how to beat the gunners or at least fashion a shot on target!
Glen Hoddle called it right when he said he was puzzled, he wasn't the only one.

WTF was Keane subbed, only for Rafa to minutes later put on N'Gog, if I was Wenger at full time I would have been thanking Sammy for the subs because they helped Arsenal's cause a lot more than ours.

Overall a good point but shocking lack of options or chances created and I don't think it's as easy as saying come back Fernando, there is a bigger problem at the moment and it's called lack of original tactics.

That's why Glen Hoddle hasn't had a decent job since his outlandish remarks, and Rafa is in charge of one of the most feared teams in Europe at the minute. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

he was top manager tho apart from being a to.sser

The objective word being "was". Was hardly a world class manager either.
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Postby LegBarnes » Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:02 pm

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metalhead wrote:Nanny reading petar's comments

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:laugh: Dont tempt me .

He gets on me nerves never has anything positive to say. Id land him one if he stood near me in the match. See this is the type of fan we are attracting Metalhead . Sometimes i wish we would win nothing just to get rid of them . It does me head in

Hope you not add me to this As i never agree with petar he does with me  :Oo:

I am happy with point just think we didn't attack when they went down to 10 men and rafa's subs was wierd yet agian.

Tho I am being made to be a big bad man as always by some posters.  :glare:
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Postby heimdall » Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:02 pm

I hadn't even considered Bilic but now you mention it, do you think he'd be smart enough to change tactics after the opponents go down to 10 men?
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Postby Emerald Red » Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:03 pm

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heimdall wrote:It would have been a great result if we were playing against 11 men and Fabregas was on the pitch.
We had half an hour against 10 men and if Rafa is a tactical wizard he should have been sitting at home and worked out how to beat the gunners or at least fashion a shot on target!
Glen Hoddle called it right when he said he was puzzled, he wasn't the only one.

WTF was Keane subbed, only for Rafa to minutes later put on N'Gog, if I was Wenger at full time I would have been thanking Sammy for the subs because they helped Arsenal's cause a lot more than ours.

Overall a good point but shocking lack of options or chances created and I don't think it's as easy as saying come back Fernando, there is a bigger problem at the moment and it's called lack of original tactics.

That's why Glen Hoddle hasn't had a decent job since his outlandish remarks, and Rafa is in charge of one of the most feared teams in Europe at the minute. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

man you know fukc all about football,I am laughing soooo fukcin loud right now. You think that we had some creating force? ohh,I forgot that in gladiators fight you only need strength. give up on football

Get Slavan in! He'll sort out the men from the boys. Too bad Dirty Sam isn't up for grabs, eh? Billic will do, though.
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Postby LegBarnes » Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:03 pm

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heimdall wrote:It would have been a great result if we were playing against 11 men and Fabregas was on the pitch.
We had half an hour against 10 men and if Rafa is a tactical wizard he should have been sitting at home and worked out how to beat the gunners or at least fashion a shot on target!
Glen Hoddle called it right when he said he was puzzled, he wasn't the only one.

WTF was Keane subbed, only for Rafa to minutes later put on N'Gog, if I was Wenger at full time I would have been thanking Sammy for the subs because they helped Arsenal's cause a lot more than ours.

Overall a good point but shocking lack of options or chances created and I don't think it's as easy as saying come back Fernando, there is a bigger problem at the moment and it's called lack of original tactics.

That's why Glen Hoddle hasn't had a decent job since his outlandish remarks, and Rafa is in charge of one of the most feared teams in Europe at the minute. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

he was top manager tho apart from being a to.sser

The objective word being "was". Was hardly a world class manager either.

Only tho cos he has chosen not to go back into management he could have taken spurs job years back.

Imo he was world class player and could have been world class manager if he knew how to keep his mouth shut.
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Postby Petar » Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:03 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
LegBarnes wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
heimdall wrote:It would have been a great result if we were playing against 11 men and Fabregas was on the pitch.
We had half an hour against 10 men and if Rafa is a tactical wizard he should have been sitting at home and worked out how to beat the gunners or at least fashion a shot on target!
Glen Hoddle called it right when he said he was puzzled, he wasn't the only one.

WTF was Keane subbed, only for Rafa to minutes later put on N'Gog, if I was Wenger at full time I would have been thanking Sammy for the subs because they helped Arsenal's cause a lot more than ours.

Overall a good point but shocking lack of options or chances created and I don't think it's as easy as saying come back Fernando, there is a bigger problem at the moment and it's called lack of original tactics.

That's why Glen Hoddle hasn't had a decent job since his outlandish remarks, and Rafa is in charge of one of the most feared teams in Europe at the minute. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

he was top manager tho apart from being a to.sser

The objective word being "was". Was hardly a world class manager either.

Someone who was great manager still knows football.keep it simple for yourself lad
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Postby Emerald Red » Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:05 pm

heimdall wrote:I hadn't even considered Bilic but now you mention it, do you think he'd be smart enough to change tactics after the opponents go down to 10 men?

What like throwing 3 attacking players on? Maybe.
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Postby Emerald Red » Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:05 pm

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heimdall wrote:It would have been a great result if we were playing against 11 men and Fabregas was on the pitch.
We had half an hour against 10 men and if Rafa is a tactical wizard he should have been sitting at home and worked out how to beat the gunners or at least fashion a shot on target!
Glen Hoddle called it right when he said he was puzzled, he wasn't the only one.

WTF was Keane subbed, only for Rafa to minutes later put on N'Gog, if I was Wenger at full time I would have been thanking Sammy for the subs because they helped Arsenal's cause a lot more than ours.

Overall a good point but shocking lack of options or chances created and I don't think it's as easy as saying come back Fernando, there is a bigger problem at the moment and it's called lack of original tactics.

That's why Glen Hoddle hasn't had a decent job since his outlandish remarks, and Rafa is in charge of one of the most feared teams in Europe at the minute. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

he was top manager tho apart from being a to.sser

The objective word being "was". Was hardly a world class manager either.

Someone who was great manager still knows football.keep it simple for yourself lad

What did he win, then?
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Postby heimdall » Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:06 pm

LegBarnes wrote:Hope you not add me to this As i never agree with petar he does with me  :Oo:

I am happy with point just think we didn't attack when they went down to 10 men and rafa's subs was wierd yet agian.

Tho I am being made to be a big bad man as always by some posters.  :glare:

You'd better get used to it mate as I think you have made the :censored: list or as I like to think of it people with some common sense.
After a while all the petty insults and pathetic threats of violence become like water off a ducks back and you just sit back and chuckle at the sometimes touching naivety and stupidity of some posters on this forum.
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Postby NANNY RED » Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:06 pm

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s@int wrote:If we hadn't made such a mess of our home games, this would have been a great result. Unfortunately because we have drawn too many games lately we could have really done with the win. I think the way we are using our subs shows the lack of depth in the squad. We really need to strengthen even when Torres returns.

We are having to play too many players who look out of form, just because we have no one decent to replace them with. I thought we lost the midfield battle in the first 5 minutes and it was only when Fabregas went off that we actually started to play, unfortunately we still never looked like a team at the top of the league.

Effort we had in abundance, quality and skill we looked sorely lacking.

I think it says it all when the best attacking option we have to bring on are reserve quality players like Ngog and El Zhar, with a makeshift mid-field containing Lucas. Babel was just completely terrible when he came out. No impact at all out of him. Needs to try harder, or I wouldn't mind seeing him go come January if we can get a quality striker for replacement. Considering the manager wasn't there, and the team available, we did OK, I felt. This game was a worry to me before we played it seeing as Arsenal have had a knack for turning it on against the bigger sides this season. The transfer window will make or break our season, I feel. It's key that Rafa gets the right back-up.

Don't think there is any balls on transfer market atm.

Rafa does need some.

prepare for bad second goalkeeper,some  fullbacks on free,and Koren from WBA to replace Benayoun

An you are one of the Toss.ers im talking about . you are so wrong lad its unreal. Id love to stand next to you in a game . Mind you i think id get arrested .

You need to behave your :censored: self , because you are becoming a joke

what? you want me to say everything is alright? to me it is not and to me you are ok,but stupid lad. Fair enough from you and from me. Mate,please stop posting about booing fans,it is becoming so pathetic. After the game,we disscuss the game,and if I think that Rafa does bad signings it is my fukcin opinion and I can have my opinio. You are to.sser,now what? I would beat you too? now what? are you stupid that much mate? nanny(hahaha to nick name,cause if some nanny could beat me,buahahahahah)

No one saying were playing out of this world ,No one is saying everything is alright . an yes your right everyone has an opinion. But your opinion of this team an the manager stinks lad. Ive never seen you post anything positive apart for declaring you love for Ryan Babel . Well let me tell you this you need glasses mate because hes not worth a carrot. Every ball today he lost . An if he is your dream footballer then yes we are in trouble .

An where have i mentioned in my last 2 posts about anyone booing. The only booing that was done today was by gooners when Keane had the ball or when he came off .

An you are a to.sser mate you make Hiemdell look like an angel

See i even give you a shout out there Hiemdell :laugh:
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Postby Petar » Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:06 pm

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heimdall wrote:I hadn't even considered Bilic but now you mention it, do you think he'd be smart enough to change tactics after the opponents go down to 10 men?

What like throwing 3 attacking players on? Maybe.

he finally wants to talk about concrete things. he is on the ice now,without google and R Crowe
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Postby Emerald Red » Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:08 pm

Petar wrote:
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heimdall wrote:I hadn't even considered Bilic but now you mention it, do you think he'd be smart enough to change tactics after the opponents go down to 10 men?

What like throwing 3 attacking players on? Maybe.

he finally wants to talk about concrete things. he is on the ice now,without google and R Crowe

I don't do meth.
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Postby heimdall » Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:10 pm

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heimdall wrote:I hadn't even considered Bilic but now you mention it, do you think he'd be smart enough to change tactics after the opponents go down to 10 men?

What like throwing 3 attacking players on? Maybe.

???

OK but that was with 10 minutes left when he was getting a bit desperate and he took our main attacking option off to bring on fecking El Zhar, WTF??

In any case I'm talking about a change in formation rather than desperation subs. All of the players were playing well today so subs were not really needed but a change in formation was.

Sorry but that is not too clever management in my book.
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Postby metalhead » Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:13 pm

heimdall wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
heimdall wrote:I hadn't even considered Bilic but now you mention it, do you think he'd be smart enough to change tactics after the opponents go down to 10 men?

What like throwing 3 attacking players on? Maybe.

???

OK but that was with 10 minutes left when he was getting a bit desperate and he took our main attacking option off to bring on fecking El Zhar, WTF??

In any case I'm talking about a change in formation rather than desperation subs. All of the players were playing well today so subs were not really needed but a change in formation was.

Sorry but that is not too clever management in my book.

What did El Zhar do wrong? he did well when he came on, created 2 chances in 10 minutes! offered a bit of creativity. The only think that I disagree with is taking out Keane, if he took out kuyt for El Zhar then it would have been better.
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Postby Emerald Red » Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:14 pm

heimdall wrote:
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heimdall wrote:I hadn't even considered Bilic but now you mention it, do you think he'd be smart enough to change tactics after the opponents go down to 10 men?

What like throwing 3 attacking players on? Maybe.

???

OK but that was with 10 minutes left when he was getting a bit desperate and he took our main attacking option off to bring on fecking El Zhar, WTF??

In any case I'm talking about a change in formation rather than desperation subs. All of the players were playing well today so subs were not really needed but a change in formation was.

Sorry but that is not too clever management in my book.

Everyone's an expert from an armchair perspective.
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