Liverpool FC Forum

[god_bless_john_houlding]

well he hasn't won enough has he? he's still 3 european cups short, still 2 league titles short and about 11 years over how long it took SIR BOB PAISLEY to become the best manager these shores or the world has seen. 3 european cups in 9 years...ferie one in 21 years hahahaha. Also I don't fail to realise that it's here and now. If you read the early impressions thread (which i started) you'll clearly state that I've said what happens this year counts for nothing next season or the year after or the year after that. What we scousers or other Liverpool fans do like to do however is remind our fellow football fans of our success. Although they count for nothing on the pitch, they count for everything for a clubs history. United being the first english side to win the european cup was a massive achievement and that's your history which many united fans use. I have no problem with that because I think it's important for fans to realise and remember and thank their history for shaping the club they now love into what it is today. So it's not forgetting what time period we're in, it's simply reminding that the level of the bar is so high. 18 league championships, 5 european cups, 7 fa cups, 7 league cups and 3 uefa cups high to be exact

No I haven't told Sabre to support a spanish team, but that doesn't really bother me forigners supporting british clubs because most british folk have favoured sides abroad. It's the british folks supporting sides that have nothing to do with them that annoy me. (glory hunting i call them) You I can understand if your family are united fans as you say, it's only natural for you to follow. But when we have cockneys/brummies/geordies (not often) bristol and so on who support us for no reason but because we're the two most successful sides that England has it annoys the life out of me. Especially the ones who know sod all about the history of either club. Simply follow us for a bit of glory. There's some of them on here and no doubt I'll get an earfull off them but so what they can fuck themselves and support their local side. This opinion is really only shared in a few cities where football is the most important thing. I mean you don't get many scousers supporting Spurs. Or mancs supporting Charlton. Or geordies supporting Everton. Or mackems supporting Portsmouth. The major cities of northern england stick to their hometown clubs. Only the smaller towns/cities (bolton, blackburn, burnley, crewe, preston, warrington, widnes and so on) branch out and glory hunt to the bigger clubs which is why other than the two merseyside clubs and united, the north west sides in england are badly supported. Likewise Middlesborough are badly supported because many of them support Newcastle/Sunderland or even Leeds.

Those from abroad I don't mind as much, especially those in Austriallia/America/Asia and so on because footy isn't big over there so they are more likely to choose a british sideand the ones on telly more often than not over there are Liverpool and Man United. The european ones a little different because of how popular the sport is around europe, I'd like to think they all have their own football team to love in their home nation and Liverpool/United or whoever from England are just their favoured side over here, not their football love.

[Number 9]

Holy fu.ck GBJH you are an embaressment lad!

What you have just said is that basically no one else in England should be allowed to support Liverpool apart from scousers...idiot!
Does that apply to the whole of the UK?

See i live in South Belfast,my local team is Linfield.
Does your rule apply to me as well or is it just other English men.Or in your delluded outlook on football and indeed the world should i just fu.ck off,forget about LFC and go to Windsor Park every Saturday afternoon?

And for one who claims to know their history,you should remember that LFC's first team back in 1892 was comprised of players from the Scottish League.
So you could argue that if it was not for outsiders the team may not exist.

I've been over to Liverpool lots of times over the last lot of years and i can gladly say that whatever crowd of locals we ever fell in with any time,have always been welcoming and hospitibal in their local bars!There was a time one guy outta our club got so pi.shed he could'nt make it to the hotel and one of the locals he was drinking with we had only met that day,gave him a bed for the night and drove him to the airport the next day,would'nt even take a penny for it either.

So its safe to say that 99.9% of scousers dont think like you John!
Thank fu.ck as well!

[Roger Red Hat]

Holy fu.ck GBJH you are an embaressment lad!

What you have just said is that basically no one else in England should be allowed to support Liverpool apart from scousers...idiot!
Does that apply to the whole of the UK?

See i live in South Belfast,my local team is Linfield.
Does your rule apply to me as well or is it just other English men.Or in your delluded outlook on football and indeed the world should i just fu.ck off,forget about LFC and go to Windsor Park every Saturday afternoon?

And for one who claims to know their history,you should remember that LFC's first team back in 1892 was comprised of players from the Scottish League.
So you could argue that if it was not for outsiders the team may not exist.

I've been over to Liverpool lots of times over the last lot of years and i can gladly say that whatever crowd of locals we ever fell in with any time,have always been welcoming and hospitibal in their local bars!There was a time one guy outta our club got so pi.shed he could'nt make it to the hotel and one of the locals he was drinking with we had only met that day,gave him a bed for the night and drove him to the airport the next day,would'nt even take a penny for it either.

So its safe to say that 99.9% of scousers dont think like you John!
Thank fu.ck as well!

good point well made pal. 

[stmichael]

I live in Blackpool

so tempting but managed to restrain myself.

[Woollyback]

I live in Blackpool

so tempting but managed to restrain myself.

[god_bless_john_houlding]

barry to be honest you should follow Linfield, but I can see the logic of the irish (northern or republic) of following Liverpool/United or Celtic/Rangers because the irish leagues are only semi-professional. The entire leagues can go bust straight away. There's not as much stability in the irish leagues as there is in england/scotland. Like I've said it's not really the lads from abroad who bother me, it's when you get Brummies/Cockneys or whoever supporting us when they have no afinity with the club. Go and support Coventry, Charlton or Bristol Rovers because they're the local sides, but nah they'll support Liverpool because there's more chance of success.

I've got a good mate who lives on Shore Road in Belfast and they follow Linfield, week in week out supporter and that's the club they love, but Liverpool are their english side and they wish as much success on Liverpool as they do Linfield.

and no 99.9% of scousers love me.

[Bad Bob]

barry to be honest you should follow Linfield, but I can see the logic of the irish (northern or republic) of following Liverpool/United or Celtic/Rangers because the irish leagues are only semi-professional. The entire leagues can go bust straight away. There's not as much stability in the irish leagues as there is in england/scotland. Like I've said it's not really the lads from abroad who bother me, it's when you get Brummies/Cockneys or whoever supporting us when they have no afinity with the club. Go and support Coventry, Charlton or Bristol Rovers because they're the local sides, but nah they'll support Liverpool because there's more chance of success.

I've got a good mate who lives on Shore Road in Belfast and they follow Linfield, week in week out supporter and that's the club they love, but Liverpool are their english side and they wish as much success on Liverpool as they do Linfield.

and no 99.9% of scousers love me.

I'll be interested to hear what the likes of Dawson, Judge, Lee J, Lando, Big Mick, Bamaga Man, Woollyback, etc. etc. have to say after reading your views.

Congratulations, John, I suspect you'll have made yourself the least popular poster in a thread started by a Manc.  By God, that takes some doing. 

[dawson99]

basically from what i can tell john is saying you should follow a football team based on geography, not based on what team you prefer. so really, if you think about it, i am liverpool by choice, not by geography, ergo people like me lando, lee big mick et all are actually bigger and better fans. We dont follow a team purely based on where we live, for us its much more important than that 

[Sabre]

I don't mean to be devil's advocate here, but success IS one of the reasons that attract supporters. It's inevitable. I support a local club even after relegated, but what made me a Liverpool fan?

I'd say that in a good 25% Aldridge. In another 50% The stories of Aldo and Toshack about you lot, your soul, your support, your loyalty to the club. But I have to admit that in a good 25% success had to do with it. You know, Liverpool came here to San Sebastian in 1978.



Do you know Bad Bob, how much people had our old ground? 14000 only. Do you know how many managed to get in that Liverpool day? According to the old docs I have, more than 35000, with people waiting in the street, traffic collapsed, and factories closing because laboral absence of the workers. That was the impact of that team back then here, Bob.

It was probably the most big impact in my town, and mind you, Internazionale and others also came here. Juventus too.

So Bad Bob, my point is that succes impress you when you're a child, and success explains, at some extent, why people become fans. I don't have a problem with a guy that makes himself Liverpool fan because success. I do like though, the attitudes of loyalty that Toshack and Aldo told us about. So the problem for me are plastic fans, the ones that are not loyal any more when you have  a bad patch.

[Number 9]

barry to be honest you should follow Linfield, but I can see the logic of the irish (northern or republic) of following Liverpool/United or Celtic/Rangers because the irish leagues are only semi-professional. The entire leagues can go bust straight away. There's not as much stability in the irish leagues as there is in england/scotland. Like I've said it's not really the lads from abroad who bother me, it's when you get Brummies/Cockneys or whoever supporting us when they have no afinity with the club. Go and support Coventry, Charlton or Bristol Rovers because they're the local sides, but nah they'll support Liverpool because there's more chance of success.

I've got a good mate who lives on Shore Road in Belfast and they follow Linfield, week in week out supporter and that's the club they love, but Liverpool are their english side and they wish as much success on Liverpool as they do Linfield.

and no 99.9% of scousers love me.

So who the fu.ck are you to tell me or anyone who they should support?
I do keep an eye out for my local teams results,but to say i was a supporter would be a lie.I have'nt been to Windsor in at least 15 years and have no intention of going back!The standard of football is shi.te!Im not interested!

I really struggle to understand your logic if any exists.You say that its OK for people from Asia etc to support LFC.Its sort of nearly OK for me to support them cause the Irish League is unstable(whatever the fu.ck thats meant to mean i'll never know).
But people from London or M'boro etc. are not allowed in your eyes and are basically glory hunters!
What about if their dad is a scouser that moved to London for but brought the kid up red,is that ok in the eyes of Sir GBJH or should they support Fulham or Chelsea,yeah its whatever stadium they live closest to....right??

Thread started by a Manc and you use it as a stage to alienate and basically belittle other supporters of LFC!
Give yourself a pat on the back!

[destro]

Im sure you havent told that Spaniard to support Villareal or someone so why tell me?

  "That Spaniard"...........Blasphemer

[god_bless_john_houlding]

go read the thread properly barry, like i said to the united fan, i can understand a person supporting a side that their family does. this united fan, is apparently from a family who are from manchester and who support united, so it's pretty obvious he'd follow suit, but when you get cockneys supporting us when they have no connection it's pathetic.

i'm not using anyone in particular here, but for example a cockney is 25 years old right now. you start taking a keen interest in football from five onwards usually. so that would be 20 years ago. 20 years ago Liverpool won the league and reached the fa cup final and were playing some of the best football in the world...so who does little glory hunting cockney support? Watford? Charlton? Wimbledon (who won the fa cup) Leyton Orient? Crystal Palace like his dad? Nah Liverpool...why? because they glory hunters. plain and simple. I don't see 25 year old geordies wearing Liverpool shirts. Or 25 year old mackems or 25 year old mancs. like to point out here because so many of fans from further afield, a manc is somebody from manchester, this thread was started by somebody from blackpool. just because you support united it doesn't make you a manc. if it did then half of asia would be mancs.

also glory hunters bang on about how much they hate everton, try living amongst them day in day out and you'll see what the rivalry is. its banter, its friendly hatred but glory hunters think the louder they shout about their hatred for everton the bigger the fan they are. so please don't make out you know what the rivalry is about because you don't, it's like me telling you why the IRA and the UDA/UVF hate each other.

[Number 9]

go read the thread properly barry, like i said to the united fan, i can understand a person supporting a side that their family does. this united fan, is apparently from a family who are from manchester and who support united, so it's pretty obvious he'd follow suit, but when you get cockneys supporting us when they have no connection it's pathetic.

i'm not using anyone in particular here, but for example a cockney is 25 years old right now. you start taking a keen interest in football from five onwards usually. so that would be 20 years ago. 20 years ago Liverpool won the league and reached the fa cup final and were playing some of the best football in the world...so who does little glory hunting cockney support? Watford? Charlton? Wimbledon (who won the fa cup) Leyton Orient? Crystal Palace like his dad? Nah Liverpool...why? because they glory hunters. plain and simple. I don't see 25 year old geordies wearing Liverpool shirts. Or 25 year old mackems or 25 year old mancs. like to point out here because so many of fans from further afield, a manc is somebody from manchester, this thread was started by somebody from blackpool. just because you support united it doesn't make you a manc. if it did then half of asia would be mancs.

also glory hunters bang on about how much they hate everton, try living amongst them day in day out and you'll see what the rivalry is. its banter, its friendly hatred but glory hunters think the louder they shout about their hatred for everton the bigger the fan they are. so please don't make out you know what the rivalry is about because you don't, it's like me telling you why the IRA and the UDA/UVF hate each other.

What are you talking about?
Who mentioned rivalries or Everton?

And double WTF are you talking about Northern Irish paramilities for?

Unbelievable lad you really are!

[dawson99]

and like i said, i follow football not just based on geography so im a betetr fan

[destro]

and like i said, i follow football not just based on geography so im a betetr fan

But a terrible speller