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[woof woof !]

If someone called me a pikey its like calling a black person a n****r

I know some people think all this isn't a big deal but do you think calling a black man a n****r okay? So why should it be okay to call an irishman a picky if we take it as bad as that?

DD you tinker.

[Dundalk]

[Greavesie]

was the term pikey specifically developed as a means of degrading Irish people like?

turns out it was, I don't really take much notice of stuff like this, I hear pikey, I think John Terry 

IMO its all sh!ts and giggles, dont live long enough to get wound up by cr@p like this, should just have a laugh and celebrate our differences

[woof woof !]

If someone called me a pikey its like calling a black person a n****r

I know some people think all this isn't a big deal but do you think calling a black man a n****r okay? So why should it be okay to call an irishman a picky if we take it as bad as that?

Do you really think that DD?

If you really feel that way, then fair enough. Personally, I couldn't give a shite if someone called me a pikey.

Maybe it's because I'm from Dublin?

I dunno.

[tonyeh]

was the term pikey specifically developed as a means of degrading Irish people like?

turns out it was, I don't really take much notice of stuff like this, I hear pikey, I think John Terry 

IMO its all sh!ts and giggles, dont live long enough to get wound up by cr@p like this, should just have a laugh and celebrate our differences

"Pikey" is derived from the same source as "Turnpike". It's from the old English word "Pyke", which kind of meant "go away".

Therefore calling someone a "Pikey" meant that you wished them to "go away".

I also heard an alternative to the above, in that "Pikey" refered to "pikemen" in the army of the 15th/16th Centuries. In later years of its use, Pikemen were poorly trained troops and often their ranks contained conscript Scots, Welsh and Irish men within the English Army...hence the derogatory name "Pikey" became stuck for Irish people living in England, although not for the Welsh and Scots, strangely enough.

[Kenny Kan]

[laza]

Pikemen were poorly trained troops and often their ranks contained conscript Scots, Welsh and Irish men within the English Army

They werent led by Captain Mainwaring were they

Because he had a private Pike

[maypaxvobiscum]

RBG has a lot of valid points,

its JBG, not RBG you scrotum face

[SouthCoastShankly]

If someone called me a pikey its like calling a black person a n****r

I know some people think all this isn't a big deal but do you think calling a black man a n****r okay? So why should it be okay to call an irishman a picky if we take it as bad as that?

Of course because you aren't a gypsy. I have used that word, and do use that word, when referring to actual gypsies who tear up football pitches and farmland illegally. But I would never use that word to refer to an Irish man. It would be a bit hypocritical as my dad's side of the family are all Irish.

What I would say is that to you the comparison with 'pikey' and the 'n' word is the same but globally the 'n' word carries far more weight due to its use within the era of slavery. The word alone is a representation of a whole dark age of humanity.

[dawson99]

For the record I am awesome. All I'm saying is Judge didn't CALL ANYONE A PIKEY!!! He was taking the pi$$ out of a 'national' day that is just known for drinking and fighting, as shown on the simpsons, which everyone laughed at.

I thought the irish had a sense of humour? (now thats opening a whole new barrel of fish)

Maybe it did have nothing to do with me, its just society today with no one taking a joke that is just upsetting. If jusdge had said someone was a pikey, thats different, but he didnt, he made a joke. John Bishop makes jokes about scousers stealing things all the time, calling himself a scally, is that that different? London is abused all the time as a cold city where everyone is mean and no noe talks to each other so is that the same? Scots are all drunks, welsh have sex with sheep, the french smell and are lazy and scared to fight. Every country has its stereotype, judge didnt do any of this. He said St Pikeys day, and if you go out in England on this day, you'd agree with what hes saying, not about the irish, but about how the event is treated all over the world.

[dawson99]

but i will attempt to stay out of things. I still like JBG, and he is still awesome, so i'll behanve, but it did go overboard the latest witch hunt

Now, that Gary Neville is a [email]tw@t...agree[/email]?

[tonyeh]

Pikemen were poorly trained troops and often their ranks contained conscript Scots, Welsh and Irish men within the English Army

They werent led by Captain Mainwaring were they

Because he had a private Pike

"Stupid boy"

[dawson99]

Don't tell him your name pike

[laza]

Forum is doomed! Doomed I say

[dawson99]

lol..i think its funny