Luis Suarez signs for Barcelona

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Postby Penguins » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:00 am

But what would be the point of selling him now?
Every potential buyer sits in the same situation with Suarez if they buy him.
Which means we will get nowhere near full value for him. Forget 70-80 million, more like 30-50 then.
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Postby eds » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:13 am

Penguins » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:00 am wrote:But what would be the point of selling him now?
Every potential buyer sits in the same situation with Suarez if they buy him.
Which means we will get nowhere near full value for him. Forget 70-80 million, more like 30-50 then.


30m for Suarez   :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

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Postby tonyeh » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:19 am

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Postby Santa » Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:50 am

On hearing that... Arsene's preparing a fax for £30,000,001 quick  :D
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Postby devaney » Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:39 am

7_Kewell » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:56 pm wrote:
Johnny Boy » Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:22 pm wrote:
killerp » Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:43 am wrote:So do we sell Suarez?

I'd say no way, the team is in no shape to throw in some third rate replacements. All the names mentioned are way off, Sanchez has never mentioned wanting to leave Barca to my knowledge.

Do what you have to, psychologists, a muzzle, drugs, whatever it takes... you keep your best players.

He can still return, play the rest of the season and be top scorer again.


You are right he can return, but fact is he will miss nearly a quarter of the league campaign.
What if he does it again?

Totally agree. What's the point of having a world class striker if he's banned for half the time?

Alas, for me, this lad has blown it. Yes, he's a great player, but he's an awful person and the sooner he's gone the better.


Kewell mate you tried to convince everybody last summer that the best thing to do was to sell him for £40m !! Well that plan really would have worked wouldn't it?

Awful person????? Yes he has had done some stupid things on a football pitch but do you really think he falls into a similar category as the likes of Adolph Hitler. Bit of a silly comment.


Banned half the time????? Why bother with accurately reporting the facts for the sake of a good story.


You sound like our gutter press to be honest. During the 2013/14 season Luis's behaviour has been impeccable both on and off the pitch. Mind you his behaviour off the pitch, not like some of the really nasty fkrs in the game, has always been excellent. He makes one stupid mistake. The street fighter and the will to win got the better of him. As a result you want him binned. My fear is that if committed one of these misdemeanours again he would receive a lifetime ban such is the level of idiotic punishment being attributed to his offence. The media coverage is unprecedented. Why is biting regarded as so much worse than stamping on a players ankle in a game where morality is a thing of the past? He received a 7 match ban the first time he had a nibble on somebody. That was ridiculously harsh to say the least. He is no angel but he does not deserve the absurd amount of garbage that is being thrown at him. I find it a shame mate that even after what Luis did for us last season you still, as a Liverpool fan, feel it necessary to castigate him.
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Postby kazza » Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:47 am

red till i die!! » Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:51 pm wrote:Luis Suarez could earn £40million playing for Barcelona - but only if he agrees to a special 'bite clause'.

The Spanish side are offering the Liverpool striker a five-year deal worth £160,000 a week to move to the Nou Camp.

But Barcelona chiefs are insisting that the contract contains special clauses to ensure that he behaves well both on and off the pitch.

Suarez has already been banned by FIFA for fourth months after his World Cup shame which saw him bite Italy defender Georgio Chiellini . It is the third time he has bitten an opponent in his career.

Barcelona are anxious to ensure that he behaves well - and also recognise they will need to appease some of their supporters.

Liverpool are demanding £80m while Barcelona only want to pay £50m total, which could include Chilean forward Alexis Sanchez as a £30m makeweight in the deal.

Barcelona will also back Suarez in his battle to fight the ban or have it reduced. Suarez is believed to be ready to hire top lawyer Juan De Dios Crespo who is a specialist in sporting cases.

Suarez, who maintains his innocence and claims it was an accidental clash after he lost balance, is ready to take his case to the Court of Arbitration for Sport in Lausanne, Switzerland.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... on-3786180?

his ban is going to get overturned  :nod only a matter of time imo.
if we are resigned to losing him then it should be on our terms and not whatever barca think they can offer us. it has to be 50 mil + sanchez or we are being rode. if sanchez isnt interested then they stump up the full 80 million or he stays whether he likes it or not.


Why would he take less than what he is making now
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Postby Thommo's perm » Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:40 am

On a scale of 1 to 10 what is the worse thing one player can do to another on a football pitch?
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Bite
Scratch
Elbow
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Punch
Stamp
Kick
Butt

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Postby Soupyzrx » Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:01 am

Thommo's perm » Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:40 am wrote:On a scale of 1 to 10 what is the worse thing one player can do to another on a football pitch?
Spit
Pinch
Bite
Scratch
Elbow
Strangle
Punch
Stamp
Kick
Butt

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Thommo, you forgot about "Calling Names", which appears to be as bad a sin as anything else.
Christ, nowadays we'd get jailed for some of the things we used to call each other when we were youngsters.
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Postby killerp » Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:24 am

Johnny Boy » Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:22 pm wrote:


You are right he can return, but fact is he will miss nearly a quarter of the league campaign.
What if he does it again?

You keep your best players but....I am not so sure now how much more of this the club can put up with.
If Barcelona put in a big bid, personally I wouldn't be that sad if he were sold and we moved on. He is a world class player but we can't go on like this.


Whatever we do from now is a big gamble.

If Barcelona offer 70 mil Cash up front, ok he can go. Since Madrid are not interested though Barca will never pay the price we want and Sanchez is a ***** replacement even if we get markovic that's not enough.
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Postby killerp » Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:30 am

Just heard Barca will insert a "bite" clause in their offer... Poor basted has quickly become the most ridiculed person on the planet.

If he just kept his mouth shut.....v :down:
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Postby 7_Kewell » Mon Jun 30, 2014 11:46 am

Kewell mate you tried to convince everybody last summer that the best thing to do was to sell him for £40m !! Well that plan really would have worked wouldn't it?

Awful person????? Yes he has had done some stupid things on a football pitch but do you really think he falls into a similar category as the likes of Adolph Hitler. Bit of a silly comment.


Banned half the time????? Why bother with accurately reporting the facts for the sake of a good story.


You sound like our gutter press to be honest. During the 2013/14 season Luis's behaviour has been impeccable both on and off the pitch. Mind you his behaviour off the pitch, not like some of the really nasty fkrs in the game, has always been excellent. He makes one stupid mistake. The street fighter and the will to win got the better of him. As a result you want him binned. My fear is that if committed one of these misdemeanours again he would receive a lifetime ban such is the level of idiotic punishment being attributed to his offence. The media coverage is unprecedented. Why is biting regarded as so much worse than stamping on a players ankle in a game where morality is a thing of the past? He received a 7 match ban the first time he had a nibble on somebody. That was ridiculously harsh to say the least. He is no angel but he does not deserve the absurd amount of garbage that is being thrown at him. I find it a shame mate that even after what Luis did for us last season you still, as a Liverpool fan, feel it necessary to castigate him.
 

Suarez has play 100 games for us, yet with this new ban he will have missed 27 through suspension. You hear that, 27 games in three seasons. It’s insane. Even Vinnie Jones would struggle to notch up that many bans.

But, you’re right, I did call for us to offload him last summer, because he was being a class A tw@t.  Even BR said publicly that Suarez had shown a “total disrespect” for LFC. But as you say, he said sorry and concentrated on his football and proved he is a world class talent. Don’t get me wrong, he IS WORLD CLASS and has the potential to be one of the greatest strikers of all time. But that’s not the issue here, is it?

You say he makes ONE stupid mistake and everyone jumps on him…but it isn’t just the ONE mistake, is it? This is the THIRD time he’s bitten someone and what happens if he does it again? Will he get a 1 year ban? 2 years?  Lifetime? I really have no confidence that Suarez will not do this (or something else, stupid) again. Then what? Our season will be written off with our best player banned and deemed financially worthless. Why take the risk? 

I say he's worth 70-80 million and I say we sell if someone pays that. Nothing less.
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Postby kazza » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:01 pm

killerp » Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:30 am wrote:Just heard Barca will insert a "bite" clause in their offer... Poor basted has quickly become the most ridiculed person on the planet.

If he just kept his mouth shut.....v :down:

If it is true, surely that is insult. Would he like to play for them in those conditions? I'm feeling he will stay with us now when he might have left before "The Bite" heard across the world.
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Postby Johnny Boy » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:25 pm

7_Kewell » Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:46 am wrote:
Kewell mate you tried to convince everybody last summer that the best thing to do was to sell him for £40m !! Well that plan really would have worked wouldn't it?

Awful person????? Yes he has had done some stupid things on a football pitch but do you really think he falls into a similar category as the likes of Adolph Hitler. Bit of a silly comment.


Banned half the time????? Why bother with accurately reporting the facts for the sake of a good story.


You sound like our gutter press to be honest. During the 2013/14 season Luis's behaviour has been impeccable both on and off the pitch. Mind you his behaviour off the pitch, not like some of the really nasty fkrs in the game, has always been excellent. He makes one stupid mistake. The street fighter and the will to win got the better of him. As a result you want him binned. My fear is that if committed one of these misdemeanours again he would receive a lifetime ban such is the level of idiotic punishment being attributed to his offence. The media coverage is unprecedented. Why is biting regarded as so much worse than stamping on a players ankle in a game where morality is a thing of the past? He received a 7 match ban the first time he had a nibble on somebody. That was ridiculously harsh to say the least. He is no angel but he does not deserve the absurd amount of garbage that is being thrown at him. I find it a shame mate that even after what Luis did for us last season you still, as a Liverpool fan, feel it necessary to castigate him.
 

Suarez has play 100 games for us, yet with this new ban he will have missed 27 through suspension. You hear that, 27 games in three seasons. It’s insane. Even Vinnie Jones would struggle to notch up that many bans.

But, you’re right, I did call for us to offload him last summer, because he was being a class A tw@t.  Even BR said publicly that Suarez had shown a “total disrespect” for LFC. But as you say, he said sorry and concentrated on his football and proved he is a world class talent. Don’t get me wrong, he IS WORLD CLASS and has the potential to be one of the greatest strikers of all time. But that’s not the issue here, is it?

You say he makes ONE stupid mistake and everyone jumps on him…but it isn’t just the ONE mistake, is it? This is the THIRD time he’s bitten someone and what happens if he does it again? Will he get a 1 year ban? 2 years?  Lifetime? I really have no confidence that Suarez will not do this (or something else, stupid) again. Then what? Our season will be written off with our best player banned and deemed financially worthless. Why take the risk? 

I say he's worth 70-80 million and I say we sell if someone pays that. Nothing less.


I agree with most of that.

I think people should understand though ideally we keep him, he scores lots of goals and everyone is happy. However, it's not that simple, he stands to miss nearly a quarter of the league games this season, and if he steps out of line again clearly there is a risk we could lose him for maybe an entire season or more next time.
We just can't take that chance anymore.
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Postby Soupyzrx » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:33 pm

Naah, there's too much sh1t hitting too many fans for him to stay, I reckon.
Too much being said which can't (or won't) be forgotten. The press are whipping it all up too much and he  (and most of Uruguay, it seems) are saying that the press are making something out of nothing, just to have a dig at him personally.
I would love to read an official line on what LFC are thinking about the whole debacle. Do they want to stand by him and see if he'll stay or do they want to get rid?
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Postby Santa » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:37 pm

I think the club has already plan for life without Luis as after the magnificent season that he had, surely the big-2 of Spain will come calling and it will be a much harder task to convince him to stay put.

I think he's well paid here (that has been taken care of when he signed the latest extension) so it's not all a money issue. You &  me would give anything to play for Liverpool  so for a S.American player, the summit is to play for either Real or Barca. Heck even our 2 little English git still head to Real for "the challenge" of sitting on the bench. Now who wouldn't be all tempted to play next to Messi & Neymar on a weekly basis?

Losing Luis will be tough, a step back but with the money that we will receive it will give the club a good platform to have a stronger squad,  which we badly need. A strong and balanced 18 players squad will compensate for the lost of one Luis Suarez. In light of his latest transgression and the player's desire to head to Spain, the management might think the time is right to cash in. Nevermind how the manager will spend his money, Nevermind the lost of our one talisman we are Liverpool FC and we will cope and come good again.
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