Liverpool FC Forum

[devaney]

BTN. Your sources of information are highly questionable with regards to Ayres. You do not know the full story. Ayre's and the owners were responsible for appointing Kenny Dalglish which you totally condoned and still do to this day. Kenny did ok in the cups but unfortunately he failed miserably in other areas and certainly took us backwards during his tenure. You seem to blame Ayre's and the owners for everything. I suggest you also look at other areas as well.

The point with regards to the Suarez bid is you would have accepted a very low bid of £40m. Even you are now suggesting Suarez is worth £50m !! You dismissed my earlier suggestion out of hand that if he had a good season and a good world cup he could be worth £60m. It is you who constantly accuse our owners of being incompetent and Ayre's of being a clown. On this occasion their action were totally justified but you simply are not prepared to accept that. Your argument is very inconsistent and about as convincing as the group of players that you have suggested we buy to replace Luis. 

Not sure that I missed your point about Spurs in anyway. The fact that I don't necessarily agree with you doesn't mean I missed the point. BET ACCEPTED

[kazza]

BTN. Your sources of information are highly questionable with regards to Ayres. You do not know the full story. Ayre's and the owners were responsible for appointing Kenny Dalglish which you totally condoned and still do to this day. Kenny did ok in the cups but unfortunately he failed miserably in other areas and certainly took us backwards during his tenure. You seem to blame Ayre's and the owners for everything. I suggest you also look at other areas as well.

The point with regards to the Suarez bid is you would have accepted a very low bid of £40m. Even you are now suggesting Suarez is worth £50m !! You dismissed my earlier suggestion out of hand that if he had a good season and a good world cup he could be worth £60m. It is you who constantly accuse our owners of being incompetent and Ayre's of being a clown. On this occasion their action were totally justified but you simply are not prepared to accept that. Your argument is very inconsistent and about as convincing as the group of players that you have suggested we buy to replace Luis. 

Not sure that I missed your point about Spurs in anyway. The fact that I don't necessarily agree with you doesn't mean I missed the point. BET ACCEPTED

Wow, betting AGAINST your team Benny, does that now mean you will hope spurs win so you win? I suppose you will want to be proved right (which is perfectly normal for people that are happy to say "I told you so"). I for one hope you lose the bet Benny   

[devaney]

BTN. Your sources of information are highly questionable with regards to Ayres. You do not know the full story. Ayre's and the owners were responsible for appointing Kenny Dalglish which you totally condoned and still do to this day. Kenny did ok in the cups but unfortunately he failed miserably in other areas and certainly took us backwards during his tenure. You seem to blame Ayre's and the owners for everything. I suggest you also look at other areas as well.

The point with regards to the Suarez bid is you would have accepted a very low bid of £40m. Even you are now suggesting Suarez is worth £50m !! You dismissed my earlier suggestion out of hand that if he had a good season and a good world cup he could be worth £60m. It is you who constantly accuse our owners of being incompetent and Ayre's of being a clown. On this occasion their action were totally justified but you simply are not prepared to accept that. Your argument is very inconsistent and about as convincing as the group of players that you have suggested we buy to replace Luis. 

Not sure that I missed your point about Spurs in anyway. The fact that I don't necessarily agree with you doesn't mean I missed the point. BET ACCEPTED

Wow, betting AGAINST your team Benny, does that now mean you will hope spurs win so you win? I suppose you will want to be proved right (which is perfectly normal for people that are happy to say "I told you so"). I for one hope you lose the bet Benny   :laugh:

I have never bet against Liverpool in my life and never will but maybe that is just me.

[redno7]

no, that's the majority of fans devaney. unfortunately there is always one

[Benny The Noon]

I really do hope I lose the bet because that will be a tenner well spent towards the Justice campaign. It's a bet where there is no loser.

[babu]

I really do hope I lose the bet because that will be a tenner well spent towards the Justice campaign. It's a bet where there is no loser.

Correction, Liverpool will be the loser.

[Benny The Noon]

Will they ? Lose what exactly

[redno7]

Will they ? Lose what exactly

your nuts.

[Benny The Noon]

[devaney]

Interesting link from a former Everton player who clearly understands the game and the pressures players are under: http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/16016 ... le?cc=5739

[babu]

Interesting link from a former Everton player who clearly understands the game and the pressures players are under: http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/16016 ... le?cc=5739

Nice words from arteta, but I would prefer if he slated Suarez prior to this game. Fire up the little genius to destroy arsenal.

Mind games , but nice nevertheless.

[Stu the Red]

One player wouldnt come into replace him - you would replace him by improve the options around the front line .players like Munian , Rues , Draxler , young players with massive potential - for £50mil we could possibly get two of them. You could look to players like Pastore , Gamerio even Pato. It's not about replacing Suarez with an like for like - it would be using funds to buy more than just one quality player.

I want Ayre sacked because he is an utter clown - the banning of the IPCC leaflets just highlight how much of a f*cking clown that man is. I want the club sold to owners who are willing to invest in the club and the squad to get us back into the top level of football.

The direction the club is moving in will be unknown until the end of each season it midway through it. We could just as easily finish 7th again. Then which direction has it moved in ? I would rather wait until the end of the season before suggesting which way the club is going.

The only clown in sight is you.


Using foreign players names doesn't make you clever or mean you're a great scout. It means you've heard some T*ss*r talk about them on a footy manager forum and you're declaring them as quality players in real life.

Draxler and Rues are wanted by most top european clubs so in the same way you dismissed attempting to even try and go for somone like Mata we can dismiss those. Pato is one of the most overated players in world football and the rest of the players mentioned you've either seen a clip of on youtube or footy manager and never seen live so do us all a favour and stop talking rubbish. Infact, stop talking full stop...

Benny, you don't have a clue lad. Simple as that. You're opinions on football are uneducated, nonsensical and don't make the slightest bit of sense, as well as completely contradicting yourself.

Taxi for Betty!!

[devaney]

Stu - I think the old adage is that you can make yourself look very stupid by trying to be clever !!! Possibly a new tag line for BTN. I openly admitted that I didn't have a clue how to start transforming the team with the £50m plus that we could sell Suarez for. I am still none the wiser after reading BTN's suggestions !!

[Stu the Red]

Stu - I think the old adage is that you can make yourself look very stupid by trying to be clever !!! Possibly a new tag line for BTN. I openly admitted that I didn't have a clue how to start transforming the team with the £50m plus that we could sell Suarez for. I am still none the wiser after reading BTN's suggestions !!

If Suarez was to leave for £50,000,000 we would need to invest it well and not waste any. Personally I believe it should be spent on players who will improve the team. If we lack depth then use the loan system to our advantage. If Suarez was to leave we could go back to a 4-3-3 with Coutinho as one of the midfielders, bring in two goalscoring wide players. We would need however a new midfielder aswell. possibley even two.

For me, we're eight or nine away from winning the league. Selling Suarez would put us nine or ten away.

Betty just wants rid because of what the media say about him. Nothing to do with his ability. Suarez's positives far outweigh the negatives. Any idiot can see that, thats why WHEN he leaves, he'll go to a top club. Not some also ran.

[Benny The Noon]

Anyway back to Suarez

It was the most famous single pound offered in English football history, and Arsène Wenger has conceded that Arsenal's approach to signing Luis Suarez from Liverpool this summer, with a bid of £40m plus £1, had been flawed.

Acting on information that a bid in excess of £40m would trigger a release clause in Suarez's contract – it did not – Arsenal pursued the unusual strategy, which prompted the Liverpool owner, John W Henry, to ask on Twitter: "What do you think they're smoking over there at the Emirates?"

Reflecting on Suarez, who faces Arsenal at the Emirates in a battle between first place and second in the Premier League, Wenger admitted that the bid for the player was "not the most subtle thing" that his club had ever done. "But it was not meant to be provocative at all. It could be interpreted like that but it was not our purpose. I don't want to dwell more on that situation."

It is an unfortunate consequence of Arsenal's transfer policy over recent years that they have had to come up against some of the great players who have left their club, including the likes of Thierry Henry and Robin van Persie. Coming up against one of the big players they missed out so publicly on signing is nevertheless a new experience for Wenger who, noticeably, never ruled out returning for Suarez at some point in the future.

The Arsenal manager said he did not believe that the Uruguayan would be booed by Arsenal fans, who may also hold out hope that he might join their club one day. Was there any regret on Wenger's part? "Not at all. Life is about opportunities that you miss, some that you take. We have a squad that is good enough to beat Liverpool and that is what we want to show and focus on. We want to win the game and the most important part is how we play, not how Suarez will play."

Asked whether the relationship with Henry and the Liverpool board was awkward now, as a consequence of their exchanges over the summer, Wenger said he did not believe that was the case. "We don't smoke!" said Wenger, not entirely accurately given Jack Wilshere's most recent indiscretion. "But relations are good [with Liverpool]."

The Arsenal manager will be without Mathieu Flamini and for the Champions League game against Borussia Dortmund on Wednesday. Mikel Arteta is back after a one-game suspension but the greatest concern remains an injury to Olivier Giroud, with so little quality cover in the position. Wenger offered up Nicklas Bendtner, Park Ju-Young and even Mesut Özil as alternative centre-forwards, although with little conviction. "I don't know yet if we will strengthen [in attack] in January," he said. "Honestly, I want to see where we stand at the end of December."

Asked whether losing three consecutive home games, albeit in three separate competitions, would be damaging, Wenger was sufficiently relaxed to laugh about the prospect. "Just your question is damaging! The question is trying to kill me! Liverpool is a big game for us in a completely different competition and we want to respond well. It was a disappointment on Tuesday [against Chelsea], and we want to respond in a very strong way in a competition where we are in a very strong position."

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 18594.html