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[LFC2007]

I expect Spain to win but you can't rule out Portugal given the attacking options they have. If Portugal can hold firm in the face of so much Spanish possession then they have the pace and ability in the likes of Nani and Ronaldo on the break to pose a real threat. Moutinho/Meireles are good at springing quick breaks with their passing ability so it should make for interesting watching.

England have technical ability in abundance then why have I never seen it on display? Please bear in mind the first tournament I watched was Euro 1996.

Nobody with any clue has argued that England have technical ability in abundance. What some people, inmcluding myself, have suggested is that England can play better with the ball than they have done in recent tournaments. The fact that they haven't can't simply be put down to a lack of technical ability, and the evidence supporting that lies in the club form of the players, as well as during spells with England. I believe Capello has come out today and made the same point about Rooney performing for Man U in a way that he hardly ever does for England. Why that is, I'm not completely sure, but I think he's spot on in identifying that as a problem.

[Ben Patrick]

Glad Spain are actually playing with a striker tonight just to say.
They have done my head in playing no strikers against France and Italy.

[Benny The Noon]

People say that England's footballers can keep hold of possession, can string passes together, can attack well, can reach the latter stages of major competitions. Now if the England players can do all of these things how comes they haven't done it for well over 14 years? Have England ever played possession football? In the last twenty years how many technically gifted footballers have England produced? Gascoigne, Le Tissier, Scholes and Gerrard? Maybe you could add Redknapp and Beckham to that list as well. So that's 6 players in 22 years and England wonder why they struggle.

If England have technical ability in abundance then why have I never seen it on display? Please bear in mind the first tournament I watched was Euro 1996.

That euro 96 team and squad in general was the best i can remember in my time of watching England, even better than Italia 90.

It had a bit of everything.
Great striking options pace and the ability to beat players in Mcmanaman.
Some very good options in midfield and a decent defence and keeper.

They should have won that tournament.

Italy 90 is the tournament we should have won but Euro 96 wasnt far behind.

Loved both tournaments and was the last time supporting England was pure.

[RichardLFC1]

Portugal will win tonight and the whole competition. Ronaldo looks quality as does javi martinez.

[Benny The Noon]

Portugal will win tonight and the whole competition. Ronaldo looks quality as does javi martinez.

Martinez isn't playing

[7_Kewell]

People say that England's footballers can keep hold of possession, can string passes together, can attack well, can reach the latter stages of major competitions. Now if the England players can do all of these things how comes they haven't done it for well over 14 years? Have England ever played possession football? In the last twenty years how many technically gifted footballers have England produced? Gascoigne, Le Tissier, Scholes and Gerrard? Maybe you could add Redknapp and Beckham to that list as well. So that's 6 players in 22 years and England wonder why they struggle.

If England have technical ability in abundance then why have I never seen it on display? Please bear in mind the first tournament I watched was Euro 1996.

That euro 96 team and squad in general was the best i can remember in my time of watching England, even better than Italia 90.

It had a bit of everything.
Great striking options pace and the ability to beat players in Mcmanaman.
Some very good options in midfield and a decent defence and keeper.

They should have won that tournament.

Italy 90 is the tournament we should have won but Euro 96 wasnt far behind.

Loved both tournaments and was the last time supporting England was pure.

that'll be the tournament when we won just 2 games in open play, with Verry Terribles in charge? 

the run of results was almost identical to Euro 2012 , bar the fact we won a round of penalities in the quarters instead of losing as we did against italy.....

[Benny The Noon]

We also stuffed the Dutch 4-1 and beat the Scottish

We also actually looked like we were going to win with the amount of chances we created against Germany in the semifinal ( the furthest we have ever been )

That was a world away from the displays seen during this tournament

[7_Kewell]

We also stuffed the Dutch 4-1 and beat the Scottish

We also actually looked like we were going to win with the amount of chances we created against Germany in the semifinal ( the furthest we have ever been )

That was a world away from the displays seen during this tournament

Scotland were awful, and the Dutch weren't much better.

In 2012 we put 3 past Sweden (who beat France) and just 1 past Ukraine on their home turf.... The results are almost identical to Euro 96...bar the fact we went out on Pens.

And how's the fact that our team were a bunch of alcholic boozers, with a corrupt manager a pure way of supporting England?   

You're talking rubbish...as usual.

[Benny The Noon]

Umm England beat Sweden 3-2 with a goal towards the end.

Holland in 96 were a team full of the Ajax players who just won the CL

Scotland at that time were full of players from the prem and were consistently qualifying for tournaments

We got through the quarters against a strong Spanish side and then went toe to toe with Germany and created match winning chances that nearly won the game.

England in 96 attacked teams through quality players - we had the tournament's top goalscorer and didn't rely on set pieces to scores goals. England were one of the best teams in the tournament.

If you serious think the class of 2012 is the same then you really are utterly clueless.

[7_Kewell]

Umm England beat Sweden 3-2 with a goal towards the end.

Holland in 96 were a team full of the Ajax players who just won the CL

Scotland at that time were full of players from the prem and were consistently qualifying for tournaments

We got through the quarters against a strong Spanish side and then went toe to toe with Germany and created match winning chances that nearly won the game.

England in 96 attacked teams through quality players - we had the tournament's top goalscorer and didn't rely on set pieces to scores goals. England were one of the best teams in the tournament.

If you serious think the class of 2012 is the same then you really are utterly clueless.

I went to the swiss game AND the Dutch game in 96, we were poor against the Swiss and Holland were f**king dreadful. And the results are virtually the same, and that's what counts in football.  England could have easily gone out against Spain in 96, just like we could have eaisly of gone through against Italy this year.

Our off the field antics in 96 were a joke too, as was our manager who legged it afterwards for a pay day with Australia.  And you say it was a 'pure' experience. 

As i've said, England did OK in Euro 12, nothing more, nothing less. Roy will be judged on his World Cup qualification, and if he c0cks that up then fine, nail him to the mast. But the irrational sh!te you're spouting is ludicrous

What makes you look all the more foolish is the fact you label everyone here as “impatient” when it comes to discussing football, yet you want Roy out of the England job within 6 weeks.   

[Ben Patrick]

Umm England beat Sweden 3-2 with a goal towards the end.

Holland in 96 were a team full of the Ajax players who just won the CL

Scotland at that time were full of players from the prem and were consistently qualifying for tournaments

We got through the quarters against a strong Spanish side and then went toe to toe with Germany and created match winning chances that nearly won the game.

England in 96 attacked teams through quality players - we had the tournament's top goalscorer and didn't rely on set pieces to scores goals. England were one of the best teams in the tournament.

If you serious think the class of 2012 is the same then you really are utterly clueless.

Totally agree.

Think sometimes people just spout rubbish to try and wind you up Benny

[Benny The Noon]

Umm England beat Sweden 3-2 with a goal towards the end.

Holland in 96 were a team full of the Ajax players who just won the CL

Scotland at that time were full of players from the prem and were consistently qualifying for tournaments

We got through the quarters against a strong Spanish side and then went toe to toe with Germany and created match winning chances that nearly won the game.

England in 96 attacked teams through quality players - we had the tournament's top goalscorer and didn't rely on set pieces to scores goals. England were one of the best teams in the tournament.

If you serious think the class of 2012 is the same then you really are utterly clueless.

Totally agree.

Think sometimes people just spout rubbish to try and wind you up Benny

Im astounded if im being honest - i reckon he is actually meaning it though

[Benny The Noon]

Portugal are certainly giving it a right go but can't break through.

[7_Kewell]

Umm England beat Sweden 3-2 with a goal towards the end.

Holland in 96 were a team full of the Ajax players who just won the CL

Scotland at that time were full of players from the prem and were consistently qualifying for tournaments

We got through the quarters against a strong Spanish side and then went toe to toe with Germany and created match winning chances that nearly won the game.

England in 96 attacked teams through quality players - we had the tournament's top goalscorer and didn't rely on set pieces to scores goals. England were one of the best teams in the tournament.

If you serious think the class of 2012 is the same then you really are utterly clueless.

I went to the swiss game AND the Dutch game in 96, we were poor against the Swiss and Holland were f**king dreadful. And the results are virtually the same, and that's what counts in football.  England could have easily gone out against Spain in 96, just like we could have eaisly of gone through against Italy this year.

Our off the field antics in 96 were a joke too, as was our manager who legged it afterwards for a pay day with Australia.  And you say it was a 'pure' experience. 

As i've said, England did OK in Euro 12, nothing more, nothing less. Roy will be judged on his World Cup qualification, and if he c0cks that up then fine, nail him to the mast. But the irrational sh!te you're spouting is ludicrous

What makes you look all the more foolish is the fact you label everyone here as “impatient” when it comes to discussing football, yet you want Roy out of the England job within 6 weeks.   

[Benny The Noon]

When did I say I want Woy out of the England job ?!

I couldn't give a f*ck about who the manager is - Woy can have it for the next ten years as far as I'm concerned.

England were Sh*t - just go and read all the embaressing stats.

England in Euro 96 were exciting and full of attacking and went at teams and it was fantastic at the old Wemberlee.

You think they are the same just confirms you are clueless and now it will just be time to laugh at you