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[Kopite-Jud]

I find this hard to believe.

He signed a new deal on the 20th December, if a deal was struck in November then why put an increase in price release clause in.  Barca paying 30+ million more all be it Suarez was getting 50 grand more a week?

We made it clear we didn't intend to sell (unless the release clause was met and we didn't get Champions League).

This sounds to me like the little sh!t is trying to pass the blame to Liverpool for the bite (because its never his fault) and get his ban reduced.



20th December 2013:

Luis Suarez has signed a new four-and-a-half-year contract with Liverpool.
The striker, 26, joined the Reds in January 2011 and has scored 17 goals in 11 Premier League starts this season.
Suarez, whose original deal was set to expire in 2016, will earn around £160,000 until the end of this season and then £200,000 per week over the final four years of the contract.

"I am delighted to have agreed a new deal with Liverpool and have my future secured for the long term," he said.


"I believe I can achieve the ambitions of winning trophies and playing at the very highest level with Liverpool. My aim is to help get us there as quickly as possible."


Wasn't getting a pay rise until the start of this season?  doesn't sound like an "intended sale" or an "agreement in place" to me.

[Boocity]

Sounds bullsh1t to me, if we had agreed to sell him in Nov, why sign a new contract after that. The bite was because he was getting all upset and frustrated as they were on their way out of the WC. It's all about getting the ban reduced once he goes to Barca and to be honest I bet it works

[C-R]

These are the words of somebody else, but don't you think this sums things up perfectly

[damjan193]

I wouldn't be surprised if it's the owners who want to sell Suarez. I already wrote a post about that, I think that we can keep Suarez if we want, but the owners want to sell IMO. They can't pass on the opportunity to sell a 28 year old for a profit of nearly 300%. They're businessmen after all.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

I wouldn't be surprised if it's the owners who want to sell Suarez. I already wrote a post about that, I think that we can keep Suarez if we want, but the owners want to sell IMO. They can't pass on the opportunity to sell a 28 year old for a profit of nearly 300%. They're businessmen after all.

I'm not too sure about that mate, that buy out clause basically takes the decision out of our owners hands.

[Doeboy]

Let's be honest, Suarez has wanted out since last summer. With that in mind, he has been top notch since realising he wasn't going to get his move and was extraordinary last season. However, I always had the feeling this was the summer he would go, regardless of him signing a new contract and us making the CL. The draw of Barca and Real is too big for players to pass on and lets be honest, those two clubs operate on a totally different level to us. I mean he probably saw what Bale has won at Real and thought he wants some of that and to be honest I find it hard to begrudge him of that chance, especially the way he has given his all to us on the pitch. I for one, wish him the best and hope he goes on to win honours and does really well with Barca.

[leeroy74]

Unless they play us and then I hope agger puts him on his ***** and he wins fuk all.

[Doeboy]

Unless they play us and then I hope agger puts him on his ***** and he wins fuk all.

haha, yep, hope he has an absolute stinker if we end up playing them

[damjan193]

I wouldn't be surprised if it's the owners who want to sell Suarez. I already wrote a post about that, I think that we can keep Suarez if we want, but the owners want to sell IMO. They can't pass on the opportunity to sell a 28 year old for a profit of nearly 300%. They're businessmen after all.

I'm not too sure about that mate, that buy out clause basically takes the decision out of our owners hands.

It would take the decision out of our hands if Suarez wants to leave but I don't think that it's the case. Also, didn't Henry say that contracts mean nothing and that they just didn't want to sell him last summer?

Now it's a different story however. Suarez had a phenomenal season, he's almost 28, his price is as high as it'll get and it will only go down after this window. From a business point of view, this is a chance that they just can't miss, it's ideal for them. From a football point of view though, I don't think that it's the best decision.

Even if Suarez wants to leave, I'm 100% certain that the owners want to sell him as well.

[Soupyzrx]

I wouldn't be surprised if it's the owners who want to sell Suarez. I already wrote a post about that, I think that we can keep Suarez if we want, but the owners want to sell IMO. They can't pass on the opportunity to sell a 28 year old for a profit of nearly 300%. They're businessmen after all.

I'm not too sure about that mate, that buy out clause basically takes the decision out of our owners hands.

It would take the decision out of our hands if Suarez wants to leave but I don't think that it's the case. Also, didn't Henry say that contracts mean nothing and that they just didn't want to sell him last summer?

Now it's a different story however. Suarez had a phenomenal season, he's almost 28, his price is as high as it'll get and it will only go down after this window. From a business point of view, this is a chance that they just can't miss, it's ideal for them. From a football point of view though, I don't think that it's the best decision.

Even if Suarez wants to leave, I'm 100% certain that the owners want to sell him as well.

Are you suggesting that you reckon Suarez doesn't want to leave? Really?

[7_Kewell]

I'm pretty certain that Suarez wants to leave. We did well last season to keep him, but last year we saw the true face of Luis and it isn't red.

However, the only difference now is we want him gone too. But that doesn't mean FSG will sell on the cheap. I fully expect him to go for 70 odd million.

[eds]

To be honest lads I worried.

Arsenal will confirm in the next few hours that they have signed Sanchez, who in my mind will become a monster of a player in this league, behind only Aguero and Yaya Toure.

Their actual talent is starting to look frightening Ozil (who will improve from last season), Cazorla, Ramsey, Sanchez are all top top players. Then you have a supporting cast of Podolski, Giroud, Wilshire, Arteta, Walcott and Oxlande-Chamberlain. Compare that to our bench and it's world's apart. 

Lallana is a step in the right direction but this Lazar Markovic kid is a massive risk we are taking spending 20m for an unproven 20yo. Surely the 20m can be put to an established player? We need to stop this scatter gun "hot prospects" approach and start buying immediate reinforcements for our starting XI. Rodgers and our recruiting team don't seem to be learning from this as we are being linked with this other 19yo Belgium kid Origi, which is very concerning.

In my mind now, I would keep Suarez based on the fact that we are having trouble getting established talent through the door. Because if we sell him for 75m I shudder to think how this money will be wasted.

[laza]

I'm pretty certain that Suarez wants to leave. We did well last season to keep him, but last year we saw the true face of Luis and it isn't red.

However, the only difference now is we want him gone too. But that doesn't mean FSG will sell on the cheap. I fully expect him to go for 70 odd million.

Yes you have to wonder whether the main motivation of last season was to repay us or put himself in the shop window for Real or Barca after previous season hijinks

Mind you that theory goes out the window with Italian World cup snack or just proves he is bat crazy

[Soupyzrx]

This whole debate around Suarez could tell us something about how the owners view the club.
If Barcelona stop d1cking around and just stump up the required amount to activate the release clause, well then everyone can just sit back and wash their hands of it and say "there was nothing we could do", but if, on the other hand, Barca stick with their (seemingly) usual tactic of trying to buy cheap, and fail to offer the required amount, then that's where it gets interesting.
As I see it, It could go one of two ways....
1. The club will say "Righto Carlos Fandango, you didn't activate the release clause and since he wasn't for sale in the first place, we'll keep him. Thanks for wasting our time. We'll see you in the Champions' League. Adios." This would indicate a greater interest in achieving success on the pitch, because whether you love him or are just getting a bit tired of his sh1t, Luis Suarez would unquestionably be an irreplaceable asset on the pitch for us, and no amount of money spent will properly fill that hole in the short term.
Or......
2. The club will roll over, drop their price and sell him for less than the amount stipulated in the release clause. This would indicate that the owners are more interested in 'cashing in their chips' where Suarez is concerned and getting the max amount for him while they can. In effect, getting as much as they can for him now, rather than having the potential for success now and then taking less for him in a few years.

Barca will obviously try to use his ban as a lever to get the club to capitulate to this second option, but if the club are serious about wanting to win something anytime soon, I think they need to stick to option 1.

Admittedly, his lack of commitment to the shirt is really p1ss1ng me off, and I'd be glad to see the back of him from that respect, but at the same time, I would dearly love LFC to win something soon, raise our profile again and make us an attractive team that the top players would want to join, thus making it easier to build for the future. Keeping Suarez and improving the dodgier areas of the team behind him would make that more achievable. Unless, of course, the daft tw@t stays and then goes and bites someone's @rse off.

Am I being naive?

[Red Focus]

To be honest lads I worried.

Arsenal will confirm in the next few hours that they have signed Sanchez, who in my mind will become a monster of a player in this league, behind only Aguero and Yaya Toure.

Their actual talent is starting to look frightening Ozil (who will improve from last season), Cazorla, Ramsey, Sanchez are all top top players. Then you have a supporting cast of Podolski, Giroud, Wilshire, Arteta, Walcott and Oxlande-Chamberlain. Compare that to our bench and it's world's apart. 

Lallana is a step in the right direction but this Lazar Markovic kid is a massive risk we are taking spending 20m for an unproven 20yo. Surely the 20m can be put to an established player? We need to stop this scatter gun "hot prospects" approach and start buying immediate reinforcements for our starting XI. Rodgers and our recruiting team don't seem to be learning from this as we are being linked with this other 19yo Belgium kid Origi, which is very concerning.

In my mind now, I would keep Suarez based on the fact that we are having trouble getting established talent through the door. Because if we sell him for 75m I shudder to think how this money will be wasted.

I agree with Eds. I have no doubt BR is a great manager but his transfer policy is questionable. Look at all the players he signed or brought in on loan so far except for Sturridge and maybe Coutinho, they are all average or flops ie Assaidi, Aspas, Alberto, Allen, Sahin, Moses, Sissokho etc etc. And he's at it again this summer, buying potentials or kids mostly. Look at who we've signed so far, Can and most likely Markovic and Origi, all of them under 21 and no PL experience. Then we have Lambert, who is good but his 32 year old legs may not last long and Lallana, good player but over priced. I suspect with the 75M from the LS sale, he's going for more kids or cheap old veterans. This is not the way to go about your transfers to win the PL.

And with that, I am not confident we can win the league next season. Had Suarez stayed, I would have been. A 3rd place finish will be enough for me given BR's flawed transfer policy and Arsenal, manure, Chelsea snapping up good players. They are not going after young potentials like BR. It looks like he's building for the future and so I am not setting my sights to high as to expect us to win the league in the next campaign. Maybe by the next WC.