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[damjan193]

Suarez said so himself that he prefers to play as a second striker, in a more of a free role, so I doubt that he's frustrated for having to accommodate Sturridge. Even if you're right, the way we're set up is probably the best for the team at the moment anyway, so Suarez will have to take one for the team.

For the moment yes, only because our options are limited.

Come the summer, we should be looking to get him back into his best position where he can do most damage. I was always brought up to believe that you play your best players in the area's they do the most damage and play players in their natural positions. Crazy as that may sound to most these days...

As for him saying he preferes that role, can you show me where he said that?

I agree, next season we'll probably fight on 4 fronts so things will be obviously different. I'm talking about the now, not much of a long term predictionist myself.

As for the video, I'll try to find it but I doubt I will. It was one of those post match conferences and Suarez was talking about how he's glad that Sturridge is back (from injury?) and that he can finally have someone to play with in front of him.

[maypaxvobiscum]

I noticed that he didn't appear to run over and congratulate Danny from Stevie's wonder pass. Just a thought.......

Can't believe the shhitt that can be posted here at times. He went to take the ball out of the net so that the game can be re-started as we were drawing against the team at the bottom. That's a winner's mentality but of course there'll be people making it out like he's anti-social or unhappy 

[devaney]

I noticed that he didn't appear to run over and congratulate Danny from Stevie's wonder pass. Just a thought.......

Can't believe the shhitt that can be posted here at times. He went to take the ball out of the net so that the game can be re-started as we were drawing against the team at the bottom. That's a winner's mentality but of course there'll be people making it out like he's anti-social or unhappy 

Ffs mate if you follow this thread you will know that I have always been a massive fan of Suarez !! It was an observation and nothing else. Luis chose to collect the ball out of the net rather than congratulate Stevie and Danny. When have I ever suggested for one fkg second that he is unhappy or anti-social. That is bollux mate. If you can't see the friction between Danny and Luis at times then get to Specsavers    Danny is no different he gets equally frustrated when he thinks another player including Luis should have given him the ball because he was in a better scoring position. Quite frankly I like the competitive winning spirit of both players. Look where they have got us this season. I'm afraid you read something into my post that wasn't there. It was merely an observation in the same way that you deduced that Luis was displaying a winning mentality by collecting the ball out of the net. Keep yer knickers on lah and go and have a beer !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Stu the Red]

Displaying a winning mentality by getting the ball out of the net? The clock gets stopped anyway!

When I was about 14/15 and went to Rainhill Utd we had a manager that insisted we done that every time we scored. Made us into a great mid table team too!

Suarez is clearly spending less time in the opponents box at the moment, hence the decrease in his goal scoring. He's having to track back more and you can see it in his game he's getting more frustrated. As long as we keep winning it won't be a major problem, I just worry a little incase we hit bad form.

[andy_g]

instead of trying to interpret and second guess facial expressions and body language on the football field i prefer to listen to the interviews where he says how happy he is.

and remember, this is a player who'll have a face like a bulldog licking piss of a thistle if we're 10-0 up and he misses a glimpse of a chance.

[aCe']

Stu, I've agreed with you in the past about the whole Suarez/Sturidge situation and I even suggested that if we brought in a top top wide player that I'd be inclined to drop Sturridge to the bench more often than not to accommodate the new recruit+ Coutinho+ Suarez in his preferred role. That said, the form that Sturridge has been in this season -and I mean the entire season not just his form since returning from injury- has been nothing short of exceptional. I do agree that playing Suarez out wide is not ideal for him and as a side, we dont get the best out of him, but Sturridge is fast becoming undroppable (and I'm talking next season because no way weleave him out when fit this season) given his displays.

I do realize that it must be frustrating for Suarez having to play this role but I have to admit that it's bringing out the best in both Sterling and Sturridge and if we continue to win with the current setup then I dont see the manager feeling the inclination to do much to change it next season; which might become an issue despite what seems to be a general agreement on the board that Suarez is perfectly happy with his new role.

Its definitely something to keep an eye on until the end of the season though.

[Stu the Red]

instead of trying to interpret and second guess facial expressions and body language on the football field i prefer to listen to the interviews where he says how happy he is.

and remember, this is a player who'll have a face like a bulldog licking piss of a thistle if we're 10-0 up and he misses a glimpse of a chance.

You mean in interviews where absolutely no player in the history of the game has every been honest about anything because they're brought up to say certain things and not say other things and always be diplomatic?

Ok then!

[Stu the Red]

Stu, I've agreed with you in the past about the whole Suarez/Sturidge situation and I even suggested that if we brought in a top top wide player that I'd be inclined to drop Sturridge to the bench more often than not to accommodate the new recruit+ Coutinho+ Suarez in his preferred role. That said, the form that Sturridge has been in this season -and I mean the entire season not just his form since returning from injury- has been nothing short of exceptional. I do agree that playing Suarez out wide is not ideal for him and as a side, we dont get the best out of him, but Sturridge is fast becoming undroppable (and I'm talking next season because no way weleave him out when fit this season) given his displays.

I do realize that it must be frustrating for Suarez having to play this role but I have to admit that it's bringing out the best in both Sterling and Sturridge and if we continue to win with the current setup then I dont see the manager feeling the inclination to do much to change it next season; which might become an issue despite what seems to be a general agreement on the board that Suarez is perfectly happy with his new role.

Its definitely something to keep an eye on until the end of the season though.

Good post.

Sturridge is undroppable at the moment. Of course he is, only a cretin would say otherwise, you don't score in 8 games in a row and deserve to sit on the bench. The reality is though he's not a top top player, and like the rest, for me, if we can do better we should.

If we can sign a top left winger who'll score goals, Daniel should sit on the bench, until we do or his form goes out the window I'm happy enough with him where he is providing it doesn't ***** Luis off to the extent he wants to leave, because if it comes down to one or the other, which hopefully it wouldn't Daniel's got no chance what so ever.

[maypaxvobiscum]

[maguskwt]

Not liking what Henry has to say about Suarez clause... Just why did he decide to go into it? He said Suarez did have a 40 million buy out clause. But they just decided they are not selling because contracts don't mean much in England and world football in general...
Geez it opens a whole new can of worms, if Suarez is not pleased, he would claim that the club didn't keep promises

[leeroy74]

Suarez is about to finish the leagues top scorer, winning the golden boot, get his team/club into europes elite competition where every player dreams of playing, he's one half of one of europes best strike partnerships playing the best footie of his life...    I think he'll be a happy bunny.

[metalhead]

Suarez is about to finish the leagues top scorer, winning the golden boot, get his team/club into europes elite competition where every player dreams of playing, he's one half of one of europes best strike partnerships playing the best footie of his life...    I think he'll be a happy bunny.

and top of the assist chart

watch the player of the year award given to Hazard anyways 

[RedAnt]

Henry makes a good point. He said Torres was under contract and he didn't want to sell, but was forced to. He's right, contracts don't matter.

[woof woof !]

Henry makes a good point. He said Torres was under contract and he didn't want to sell, but was forced to. He's right, contracts don't matter.

This "contracts don't matter" nonsense is purely down to the fact that they're seemingly weighted in favour of the player and little to no backing is given to a club who have invested in and are trying to hang onto a major asset.

All a player has to do is put in a written transfer request to force a move, the threat to the owning club is then obvious i.e. the player concerned having made a formal statement that he wants out probably won't be a'rsed to put in a shift if his request is denied.

Clubs on the other hand have little opportunity to break a contract with a player who insists on staying but fails miserably to perform. Provided he turns up for training and stays relatively sober in public the clubs are stuck with any donkey who regardless of whether he get's to play (or not) is just happy to take the money and there's fk all the club can do about it.

[RedAnt]

Henry makes a good point. He said Torres was under contract and he didn't want to sell, but was forced to. He's right, contracts don't matter.

This "contracts don't matter" nonsense is purely down to the fact that they're seemingly weighted in favour of the player and little to no backing is given to a club who have invested in and are trying to hang onto a major asset.

All a player has to do is put in a written transfer request to force a move, the threat to the owning club is then obvious i.e. the player concerned having made a formal statement that he wants out probably won't be a'rsed to put in a shift if his request is denied.

Clubs on the other hand have little opportunity to break a contract with a player who insists on staying but fails miserably to perform. Provided he turns up for training and stays relatively sober in public the clubs are stuck with any donkey who regardless of whether he get's to play (or not) is just happy to take the money and there's fk all the club can do about it.

I'm suprised it still works this way in today's age. It's not like the club can write to a player and ask him to F off, releasing us of any financial obligation. Human rights ya see? Players have 'em. Clubs don't.

Legal authorities should look more closely at these cases. Making a player "stay against his will" is hardly a breach of human rights though. They willingly sign and they're paid a fortune to do what they love.

I hope Henry knows what he's doing. If he plays his cards right, he could put a dent in player power.