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[Ben Patrick]

What previous management do you mean Stu ?

Both Skrtel and Johnson have lasted Rafa, Hodgson, Kenny and now Rodgers.

[redno7]

ahhh the old... 'he plays for Liverpool therefore I think he's rubbish' argument from Stu the Red.

[maypaxvobiscum]

What previous management do you mean Stu ?

Both Skrtel and Johnson have lasted Rafa, Hodgson, Kenny and now Rodgers.

I think he meant Roy Hodgson's. Weren't we linked to Luke Young and Hangeland during his tenure?

[Ben Patrick]

What previous management do you mean Stu ?

Both Skrtel and Johnson have lasted Rafa, Hodgson, Kenny and now Rodgers.

I think he meant Roy Hodgson's. Weren't we linked to Luke Young and Hangeland during his tenure?

No that's not what he meant.
He was saying that they are not good enough and wouldnt have lasted under previous managers.

What I dont get is which managers he means. As like I said they were both signed by Rafa and are still here 3 managers later.

[maypaxvobiscum]

I was trying to be funny by comparing GJ and Skrtel to those 2 lesser breeds but I guess it failed

[Stu the Red]

What previous management do you mean Stu ?

Both Skrtel and Johnson have lasted Rafa, Hodgson, Kenny and now Rodgers.

Kenny wasn't there long enough to ship them out as other areas were more pressing, would hardly call it lasting under Hogson, that was what the fans done and the Spaniard signed him (typical of his signings).

Rodgers needs to ship them out as they're both poor.

[Stu the Red]

What previous management do you mean Stu ?

Both Skrtel and Johnson have lasted Rafa, Hodgson, Kenny and now Rodgers.

I think he meant Roy Hodgson's. Weren't we linked to Luke Young and Hangeland during his tenure?

No that's not what he meant.
He was saying that they are not good enough and wouldnt have lasted under previous managers.

What I dont get is which managers he means. As like I said they were both signed by Rafa and are still here 3 managers later.

Any of the good managers we've had in the past is what I meant.

[Stu the Red]

ahhh the old... 'he plays for Liverpool therefore I think he's rubbish' argument from Stu the Red.

The opposite of your argument... so therefore more than likely a good one!

[Ben Patrick]

What previous management do you mean Stu ?

Both Skrtel and Johnson have lasted Rafa, Hodgson, Kenny and now Rodgers.

Kenny wasn't there long enough to ship them out as other areas were more pressing, would hardly call it lasting under Hogson, that was what the fans done and the Spaniard signed him (typical of his signings).

Rodgers needs to ship them out as they're both poor.

Wasnt Skrtel voted player of the season in Kennys full season ?

[damjan193]

Some of you definitely underestimate Mignolet's contribution (and Stu exaggerating things as usual). He does like to make a good save for the camera but to say that for example Lampard's top corner shot was savable with just taking two steps to the side is very unfair to Mign.

Some goalkeepers wouldn't even bother to reach to some of the shots that Mignolet has saved. He has had his howlers (which goalie doesn't) but he's also saved our ***** a few times. I'm not talking just about the obvious ones (first game vs Stoke, vs Aston Villa etc), but some other games too like for example the home win vs Cardiff when he saved a top corner shot to prevent Cardiff from taking the lead. Had that gone in we might have seen a completely different game.

He has his flaws, I'm not denying it, but to say that he's a bad keeper and that most of his shots were savable with just taking a step to the side is very harsh and unfair. I've tried to restrain myself from saying things like this but I'll just say it now; we wouldn't have been where we are now if Pepe was still our keeper.

[The Good Yank]

What previous management do you mean Stu ?

Both Skrtel and Johnson have lasted Rafa, Hodgson, Kenny and now Rodgers.

Kenny wasn't there long enough to ship them out as other areas were more pressing, would hardly call it lasting under Hogson, that was what the fans done and the Spaniard signed him (typical of his signings).

Rodgers needs to ship them out as they're both poor.

Wasnt Skrtel voted player of the season in Kennys full season ?

C'mon Man.  Don't let good sense take over in a pointless debate.  You should know better.

[SouthCoastShankly]

Some of you definitely underestimate Mignolet's contribution (and Stu exaggerating things as usual). He does like to make a good save for the camera but to say that for example Lampard's top corner shot was savable with just taking two steps to the side is very unfair to Mign.

Some goalkeepers wouldn't even bother to reach to some of the shots that Mignolet has saved. He has had his howlers (which goalie doesn't) but he's also saved our ***** a few times. I'm not talking just about the obvious ones (first game vs Stoke, vs Aston Villa etc), but some other games too like for example the home win vs Cardiff when he saved a top corner shot to prevent Cardiff from taking the lead. Had that gone in we might have seen a completely different game.

He has his flaws, I'm not denying it, but to say that he's a bad keeper and that most of his shots were savable with just taking a step to the side is very harsh and unfair. I've tried to restrain myself from saying things like this but I'll just say it now; we wouldn't have been where we are now if Pepe was still our keeper.

I like Mignolet and I am 100% behind him despite some of the mistakes he had made. However I also 100% disagree that we would not be where we are with Pepe in goal.

[damjan193]

Some of you definitely underestimate Mignolet's contribution (and Stu exaggerating things as usual). He does like to make a good save for the camera but to say that for example Lampard's top corner shot was savable with just taking two steps to the side is very unfair to Mign.

Some goalkeepers wouldn't even bother to reach to some of the shots that Mignolet has saved. He has had his howlers (which goalie doesn't) but he's also saved our ***** a few times. I'm not talking just about the obvious ones (first game vs Stoke, vs Aston Villa etc), but some other games too like for example the home win vs Cardiff when he saved a top corner shot to prevent Cardiff from taking the lead. Had that gone in we might have seen a completely different game.

He has his flaws, I'm not denying it, but to say that he's a bad keeper and that most of his shots were savable with just taking a step to the side is very harsh and unfair. I've tried to restrain myself from saying things like this but I'll just say it now; we wouldn't have been where we are now if Pepe was still our keeper.

I like Mignolet and I am 100% behind him despite some of the mistakes he had made. However I also 100% disagree that we would not be where we are with Pepe in goal.

I said that because the people who follow Mignolet's every movement and look for a mistake can't get over the fact that he replaced Pepe. Everyone tries to compare him with Pepe and when he makes a mistake they go on about how Pepe would have simply made a step to the side and saved it with no problems. He saved them so simply in the past few seasons that shots went through his arms in every second game.

Honestly mate, I can't say where we would have been with Reina. No one can. But what I know is that it was time for him and for the club to move on. And so should our supporters. Now it's time we start looking how good Mign has been for us not just how many mistakes he's done. That's the whole idea of support.

[Stu the Red]

Some of you definitely underestimate Mignolet's contribution (and Stu exaggerating things as usual). He does like to make a good save for the camera but to say that for example Lampard's top corner shot was savable with just taking two steps to the side is very unfair to Mign.

Some goalkeepers wouldn't even bother to reach to some of the shots that Mignolet has saved. He has had his howlers (which goalie doesn't) but he's also saved our ***** a few times. I'm not talking just about the obvious ones (first game vs Stoke, vs Aston Villa etc), but some other games too like for example the home win vs Cardiff when he saved a top corner shot to prevent Cardiff from taking the lead. Had that gone in we might have seen a completely different game.

He has his flaws, I'm not denying it, but to say that he's a bad keeper and that most of his shots were savable with just taking a step to the side is very harsh and unfair. I've tried to restrain myself from saying things like this but I'll just say it now; we wouldn't have been where we are now if Pepe was still our keeper.

Absolute rubbish.

Reina kept clean sheets, commanded his box and bred confidence. Add to that his impeccable distribution.

Mignolet dives around a lot for nothing, has distinctly average positional play which causes him to dive around a lot and flaps in the air, also he's nowhere near as good with his feet as he should be.

To suggest that we wouldn't be better off with Reina is quite simply wrong. Comparing Reina and Mignolet is like comparing Owen to Baros... or Alonso to Allen... or Skrtel to Hyypia...

Reina is miles ahead in probably every department.

[Stu the Red]

I said that because the people who follow Mignolet's every movement and look for a mistake can't get over the fact that he replaced Pepe. Everyone tries to compare him with Pepe and when he makes a mistake they go on about how Pepe would have simply made a step to the side and saved it with no problems. He saved them so simply in the past few seasons that shots went through his arms in every second game.

Honestly mate, I can't say where we would have been with Reina. No one can. But what I know is that it was time for him and for the club to move on. And so should our supporters. Now it's time we start looking how good Mign has been for us not just how many mistakes he's done. That's the whole idea of support.

So you believe that the club is right to replace arguably one of the top five keepers in Europe (easily top ten) and replace him by spending £3,000,000 more, thats £10,000,000) with the seventh or eighth best keeper in England and we're supposed to sit here and be happy clappy about it?

Tell you what, why don't we just sell Suarez and bring in Giroud or Remy to replace him?

And Coutinho? Why don't we sell him too and bring in Adam Johnson to replace him?

Mignolet is a decent goalkeeper, nothing more. Certainly wouldn't call him quality.

Without a doubt I would take Vorm, Hart, Begovic, Cech, Schzenzny and Lloris ahead of him and then there's a good arguement for Howard, Guzan, Krul and Boruc being as good if not better.

Why we didn't pull out all the stops to sign Begovic from stoke instead of Mignolet is beyond belief to be quite honest.