Liverpool FC Forum

[Benny The Noon]

The market for replacements will be quite small though mate. Hopefully the sale will be sorted before the end of August.

[Kenny Kan]

Jamie Carragher says Luis Suarez's behaviour is unacceptable and Brendan Rodgers is right to lay down the law with his problem striker.

Sky Sports understands that the Uruguayan, a subject of two failed bids from Arsenal, has been told to train on his own away from the first team after going public with claims that the club agreed to let him leave this summer.

Carragher visited the club's Melwood training ground last week and sensed that Suarez, who is banned for the first six game of the season, was not showing an acceptable level of commitment.

And he backed the idea that Rodgers should jettison his star player until he improves his attitude.

Carragher told Sky Sports News: "I know Luis and I've played with him in the last couple of years and he's a warrior. He's a fighter on the pitch and every day in training. He never misses a session.

"I went in to Friday training before Stevie's testimonial and that wasn't the Luis Suarez I knew. I think it's right for Brendan Rodgers to take him out of the group because no one player is bigger than the team or the squad.

"He's not going to be playing because he's banned, so Liverpool need to concentrate on getting it right for the first game of the season against Stoke.

"If Suarez is a distraction for everyone then he needs to be taken out of the group."

Accept

Carragher, who will be a pundit on Sky Sports this season, played alongside Suarez for the last two years and says Liverpool can't afford to sell him to Arsenal.

He says Rodgers cannot let his top striker join a top-four rival and admits he'd have a few harsh words for his former team-mate if he was still in the dressing room.

"Sort yourself. You can't have that and can't accept that," he added.

"There's ways and means of going about it. Players get transferred all the time and you can't always have what you want.

"Liverpool Football Club have got to protect themselves as well. Arsenal are a big rival for a top-four place and maybe if he wanted to go somewhere else it wouldn't be such a big issue and maybe Liverpool would sanction a deal.

"Nobody wants unhappy players at the training ground or on the pitch playing. It affects other people.

"But it's very difficult for Liverpool, like the Wayne Rooney situation with Manchester United and Chelsea. They're direct rivals and that's the big deal. That's the problem."

Carry on

Carragher also says Suarez's public statements have damaged his reputation and may put off potential suitors.

"There's ways and means of going about it. Players get transferred all the time and you can't always have what you want."
Jamie Carragher
He added: "He can't carry on the way he's been carrying on. Brendan Rodgers has come out and said that nobody is bigger than the club and that's exactly right.

"There will be agents and probably people at Arsenal talking to him, but he's a grown man. He's not a kid, he's got a family and he needs to make his own decisions and what's right for him.

"It's also how he's coming across as a person to the Liverpool public and the country in general.

"Of course Arsenal want to get the player, but sometimes you've got to remember how people are seeing the situation and how people are looking at you."

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Sell him to Celtic for 23M, if they can't afford it upfront take installments - at least he'll be happy getting CL football and winning trophies.

[red till i die!!]

carra should nip in in the morning and give him a straightener   

[Redman in wales]

John Henry tonight:

"I'm unequivocal that we won't sell to Arsenal, whatever the bid is," he said. "I have not said it to Stan [Kroenke, Arsenal's majority shareholder] but I had a personal conversation with others at Arsenal and told him [Gazidis] we would not sell to Arsenal."

"He won't be sold even if a foreign club comes in because we do not have time to sign a suitable replacement," he said. "It's a football reason. It's not about finances. That's why at this point, so late in the window, with everyone who's already moved or isn't moving, we can't replace him. So for football reasons we can't sell, and especially to Arsenal."

Liverpool informed Suárez and Guardiola that any transfer would have to be agreed early in this transfer window to allow Rodgers time to spend the fee. "We made that clear early-on," confirmed Henry, who believes Suárez is misguided in his reasons for wishing to join Arsenal. He said: "Players usually want to win. They want to go, generally in any sport, where they can win. That's why I think this particular episode is misguided. We've won more trophies than Arsenal, but I really don't want to get into that."

Henry is adamant Liverpool have ended doubts over Suárez's future with less than four weeks of the transfer window remaining. "I think the issue has been resolved now," he said. "We have said 'no'. Luis will be a Liverpool player on September 3 [the day after the transfer window closes]." But he concedes that the dispute between Rodgers and Suárez may take longer to repair, with the striker accusing the manager of broken promises and being ostracised as a result.

Asked if he could see Suárez playing for Liverpool again, Henry responded: "That's going to be between the manager and player. The manager is upset, as he should be, the supporters are upset, Luis is, but that's going to be between those two and his team-mates. We need Luis. Hopefully this will pass.

[Benny The Noon]

http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... hn-w-henry


Suárez is going nowhere, says Liverpool's owner John W Henry

• Move to Arsenal would be 'ludicrous', owner adds
• It is too late in the day for a deal, says Henry

John W Henry has dealt an emphatic blow to Luis Suárez's hopes of leaving Liverpool by stating the striker will not be sold to Arsenal or to any other European club – for any price – this summer.

Liverpool's principal owner described the prospect of allowing Suárez to join Arsenal as "ludicrous" as he went on the offensive following the player's decision to air his grievances to the Guardian on Tuesday. The Uruguay international has been accused of showing "total disrespect" by Brendan Rodgers and ordered to train away from the first-team squad. Rodgers has his employer's backing to marginalise Suárez for the foreseeable future, in the absence of an apology from the player for the public outburst.

Suárez's agitation for a transfer, Arsenal's knowledge of a £40m clause in the 26-year-old's contract and submission of a £40,000,001 bid has only hardened Liverpool's resolve not to sell their prize asset. Henry said he told Ivan Gazidis, the Arsenal chief executive, that Liverpool would not entertain a bid from them, a club they perceive as a rival for Champions League qualification before offers of £35m and £40,000,001 were made.

Liverpool's principal owner has also told Suárez and his agent, Pere Guardiola, that their attempts to force a transfer have arrived too late in this transfer window. "We are not going to sell Luis," said Henry, on a brief visit to Liverpool. "For all the top clubs it's extremely important [not to sell to a rival] but especially for Liverpool because we're not in Europe this year and have not been in the Champions League for a while. To sell to a rival for those positions, or one of them, would be ludicrous. Liverpool needs to be playing in Europe. It needs to be playing in the Champions League. That's what Liverpool football club is about."

Liverpool may yet face a Premier League arbitration hearing or legal challenge from Suárez over a disputed clause in his contract that the PFA chief executive, Gordon Taylor, concedes "does not say the club has to sell". But even the threat of a mutinous Suárez and the prospect of his value diminishing next season will not alter Henry's stance.

"I'm unequivocal that we won't sell to Arsenal, whatever the bid is," he said. "I have not said it to Stan [Kroenke, Arsenal's majority shareholder] but I had a personal conversation with others at Arsenal and told him [Gazidis] we would not sell to Arsenal."

Only the Gunners have bid for a striker who scored 30 goals last season but is suspended for the first six matches of the new campaign for biting the Chelsea defender Branislav Ivanovic. Suárez has made no secret of his preference for a move to Real Madrid but an approach from the Spanish club would not succeed at this late stage, according to Henry.

"He won't be sold even if a foreign club comes in because we do not have time to sign a suitable replacement," he said. "It's a football reason. It's not about finances. That's why at this point, so late in the window, with everyone who's already moved or isn't moving, we can't replace him. So for football reasons we can't sell, and especially to Arsenal."

Liverpool informed Suárez and Guardiola that any transfer would have to be agreed early in this transfer window to allow Rodgers time to spend the fee. "We made that clear early-on," confirmed Henry, who believes Suárez is misguided in his reasons for wishing to join Arsenal. He said: "Players usually want to win. They want to go, generally in any sport, where they can win. That's why I think this particular episode is misguided. We've won more trophies than Arsenal, but I really don't want to get into that."

Henry is adamant Liverpool have ended doubts over Suárez's future with less than four weeks of the transfer window remaining. "I think the issue has been resolved now," he said. "We have said 'no'. Luis will be a Liverpool player on September 3 [the day after the transfer window closes]." But he concedes that the dispute between Rodgers and Suárez may take longer to repair, with the striker accusing the manager of broken promises and being ostracised as a result.

Asked if he could see Suárez playing for Liverpool again, Henry responded: "That's going to be between the manager and player. The manager is upset, as he should be, the supporters are upset, Luis is, but that's going to be between those two and his team-mates. We need Luis. Hopefully this will pass.

"If you look at the full context of what's happened here it's jarring to all our supporters. The club has stood by him so strongly at a time when you could question whether the club should have stood by him [over the Patrice Evra racism controversy], but they did. I wouldn't say we regret that. The manager and his team-mates were solidly behind him. They were out on the field that day. So we felt they knew more about what occurred than we did, on the field."

The Boston Red Sox owner once described the football industry as "the wild west" in comparison to baseball and despite his disgust at how football transfers are conducted, he sees no point in lodging a formal complaint against Arsenal. "How does a club who doesn't have permission to speak with your player see his contract? It should have been confidential," Henry said. "Unfortunately it's the way it works in football. People don't speak about it publicly but that's the way it's run. It's how things are done. I don't think there's a point because it just seems to happen everywhere. It's rotten."

[red till i die!!]

yer man indykaila just tweeted that suarez held a 2 hour meeting with management today and said sorry. the club have asked him to make it official.

https://twitter.com/indykaila

will an apology and a commitment for another year be enough to get us back onside?

[Benny The Noon]

yer man indykaila just tweeted that suarez held a 2 hour meeting with management today and said sorry. the club have asked him to make it official.

https://twitter.com/indykaila

will an apology and a commitment for another year be enough to get us back onside?

Not for me - the bridges have been well and truly burned and any apology would be forced and hollow because I know he doesn't want to be at the club and it will be the same circus in Jan and the again in the summer.

[bunglemark2]

Look. Enough of the moral high ground. We have a disruptive player in the ranks. One who has done irreparable damage at this point. Does Henry or Rodgers think the players will trust Suarez again after this fiasco? Not a bloody chance.
I hate his conduct but at this stage I want rid of him. Every day he stays his sell-on value drops. Let others deal with his petulance. Let the players show what the results showed us towards the end of last season - we can and will be better without this childish toe rag.

[Kenny Kan]

John Henry tonight:

"I'm unequivocal that we won't sell to Arsenal, whatever the bid is," he said. "I have not said it to Stan [Kroenke, Arsenal's majority shareholder] but I had a personal conversation with others at Arsenal and told him [Gazidis] we would not sell to Arsenal."

"He won't be sold even if a foreign club comes in because we do not have time to sign a suitable replacement," he said. "It's a football reason. It's not about finances. That's why at this point, so late in the window, with everyone who's already moved or isn't moving, we can't replace him. So for football reasons we can't sell, and especially to Arsenal."

Liverpool informed Suárez and Guardiola that any transfer would have to be agreed early in this transfer window to allow Rodgers time to spend the fee. "We made that clear early-on," confirmed Henry, who believes Suárez is misguided in his reasons for wishing to join Arsenal. He said: "Players usually want to win. They want to go, generally in any sport, where they can win. That's why I think this particular episode is misguided. We've won more trophies than Arsenal, but I really don't want to get into that."

Henry is adamant Liverpool have ended doubts over Suárez's future with less than four weeks of the transfer window remaining. "I think the issue has been resolved now," he said. "We have said 'no'. Luis will be a Liverpool player on September 3 [the day after the transfer window closes]." But he concedes that the dispute between Rodgers and Suárez may take longer to repair, with the striker accusing the manager of broken promises and being ostracised as a result.

Asked if he could see Suárez playing for Liverpool again, Henry responded: "That's going to be between the manager and player. The manager is upset, as he should be, the supporters are upset, Luis is, but that's going to be between those two and his team-mates. We need Luis. Hopefully this will pass.

Well said Mr Henry.

[damjan193]

An apology and promise to play at his best like he did last season would be enough for me. The only reason for this is because we don't have a better choice. The other two options are either we sell him to a direct rival or stick him on the bench, so we lose either way. He can f*ck off abroad next season if he wants to.

[Benny The Noon]

Wonder what happens if a bid from Madrid arrives and a transfer request is submitted

[damjan193]

Wonder what happens if a bid from Madrid arrives and a transfer request is submitted

If he's really already done the apologizing then it's over.

[Benny The Noon]

Wonder what happens if a bid from Madrid arrives and a transfer request is submitted

If he's really already done the apologizing then it's over.

You really think that to be the case ?

He spends three months asking to leave - finally puts it on there no holds barred and a day later it's over ? If it is then that says a lot about Suarez ! Think there is more twists yet with him.!

[damjan193]

If there really was a meeting I'm sure he's been told how it stands. Like Henry said, it's too late for him to leave now for any club. If he really did apologize at that meeting then I guess he has accepted the fact that he ain't leaving in this transfer window.

[Benny The Noon]

If there really was a meeting I'm sure he's been told how it stands. Like Henry said, it's too late for him to leave now for any club. If he really did apologize at that meeting then I guess he has accepted the fact that he ain't leaving in this transfer window.

Certainly going to find out soon enough mate.