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Postby Benny The Noon » Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:54 pm

red till i die!! » Wed Jul 31, 2013 6:52 pm wrote:he will be a good signing for them and if they get relegated they will at least get that fee back.
the gap behind us might just get a little tighter next season if we dont show some ambition soon. I can't believe that the club seriously expect us to qualify for the CL on freebie's, loans and cheap players.
talk about trying to reinvent the wheel  :nod


I agree but there isn't much we can do about it

I just hope whilst we try and do it this way we don't drift further away from the top guys
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Postby Benny The Noon » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:04 pm

Author: Davinder Dhesi writer for BeyondtheKop & Anfieldforever, follow on Twitter @anfieldforever1


Portuguese teams have always had a longstanding reputation for importing players from South America. The talent pool is huge and the likes of FC Porto, Benfica and Sporting Lisbon have a history of importing young players with great potential with a means of selling them on for huge sums when they become established players and household names on the continent. Portugal is basically a home from home for such players due to the similarities in language and way of life coupled with the fact that work permits are not presented as an obstacle as they are in other European countries.
Moneyball, which was a word often mentioned by Fenway Sports Group when they took control of Liverpool Football Club, is none more appropriate to both FC Porto and Benfica. The likes of Anderson (Manchester United), Lisandro Lopez (Lyon), Lucho Gonzalez (Marseille), Fredy Guarin (Inter Milan) and Radamel Falcao (AS Monaco) were all acquired for modest sums from South America and then sold on for large sums. Likewise, Ramires and David Luiz (both Chelsea) and Angel Di Maria (Real Madrid) were all brought over from South America by Benfica on the cheap and sold for millions to the giants of Europe. And that brings us onto Paraguayan left-back, Lorenzo Melgarejo, who is likely to become the next player to depart Lisbon for pastures new.

Lorenzo Melgarejo started out as a left-winger at Club 12 de Octubre, who were in the Tercera Division (third tier) in Paraguay whilst Melgarejo played for them. Aged just 19, he was promoted from their youth set up in 2009 and made an instant impact when he scored seven goals in just 22 games, from the left-wing. It was not long before Primera Division giants, Club Olimpia, came calling and took the young winger to Asuncion in 2010 where Melgarejo would go on to make just 12 substitute appearances in the Clausura Championship.

The following season, Lorenzo Melgarejo was sold to Segunda Division side, Independiente FBC on a four-year deal. A step down a level proved to be just what Melgarejo needed as he went on to score an impressive eight goals in just 17 appearances and provided 12 assists from his position out on the left. However, during the mid-season break in the Segunda Division and after his impressive performances for Independiente FBC and with both Benfica’s and Vitoria Setubal’s scouts having followed his progression closely during his time at Olimpia, Benfica snapped up Melgarejo for an undisclosed fee in June 2011.

As is often the case when FC Porto or Benfica snap up young talent on the continent, it is quite often the norm for the player to be sent straight on loan to a team in the lower echelons of the league; and that was the case for Melgarejo as he was immediately sent on a season’s loan to Paços de Ferreira where his performances and goals from the left-wing helped Paços retain their Primeira Liga status as he finished the season with 10 goals in 29 appearances finishing the season as Paços’ top scorer.

The following summer saw Lorenzo Melgarejo return to his parent club and Benfica coach, Jorge Jesus, immediately handed him a starting place in Benfica’s team. However, this was not the biggest surprise as Jorge Jesus announced that Melgarejo would not be playing on the left wing but at left-back, which had been a problematic position for Benfica ever since Fabio Coentrao had left the club for Real Madrid in July 2011.

Now Jorge Jesus is a highly-respected coach in Portugal but he is also known for being extremely stubborn and pig-headed. Where Fabio Coentrao was successfully converted from a left-winger into a fine left-back under the tutelage of Jorge Jesus, the Benfica coach felt Melgarejo could follow suit. However, Melgarejo would struggle at times due to not knowing the position all that well but Jorge Jesus kept faith and continued to play Melgarejo in defence throughout the season. Both Benfica fans and the local media would often lay into the coach during post-match conferences, as Melgarejo was often the culprit for Benfica conceding goals and opposition teams soon latched onto this as they would target the left-back position as Benfica’s weakpoint.

So that leads us onto Lorenzo Melgarejo’s strengths and weaknesses. Without doubt, Melgarejo’s natural position is as a left-winger. He is blessed with raw pace and trickery and has a direct style of play which means he will not just stay on the wing but will look to cut infield as he likes to score goals as well as to create them. As a left-back he is far less comfortable. He is still learning the positional aspect of the role and he was caught out numerous times last season where he was either ball watching or failing to clear his lines, where he would try and play his way out of danger rather than keeping it simple. Onto his physique, Melgarejo has a slight stature and he did find it a struggle last season when he came up against strong forwards who would try and knock and bully him off the ball. Being just 5ft 7in, he also struggled in aerial duels which eventually led to Jorge Jesus sticking him on the post when defending corners or marking players when defending free-kicks.

Where Lorenzo Melgarejo did show promise was when he came up against fast wingers or wide players. His knowledge of the role was a great asset as he was able to read and nullify danger from wide positions by using his recovery pace and aggressiveness in the tackle. His bravery also meant he was able to stop crosses into the box more often than not. Another aspect that was a plus was his ability to throw the ball a long distance at throw-ins which was used to great effect at times last season.

As for Liverpool’s interest in Lorenzo Melgarejo, it seems that Brendan Rodgers is looking for a senior player to offer some real competition and cover for Jose Enrique at left-back. Aly Cissokho of Valencia was reportedly on the radar last week but that deal seems to have gone on the backburner for some reason or other.

Although predominantly a winger, Melgarejo could be seen by Rodgers as someone who could offer something further up the pitch when Liverpool are chasing a goal or playing against a side who are going to be set up more defensive-minded. Where Jose Enrique is a fine defender, going forward he does have the tendency to slow play down and often fails to deliver a cross when presented with the chance. Melgarejo could be seen as someone who could do just that from the left-back position.

Brendan Rodgers also had a tendency to change tactics mid-game last season and quite often reverted to three central defenders with Glen Johnson and Jose Enrique acting as wing-backs. Where Johnson offered a threat in a more advanced position, Jose Enrique failed to do likewise on the other side. Lorenzo Melgarejo could quite easily play such a wing-back role and would offer a far more direct and attacking threat than Jose Enrique was capable of producing last season.

Any such deal for Lorenzo Melgarejo will be on a loan basis with an option to buy next June. This, of course, gives the manager a chance to look at the player first hand without parting with a fee which is always a good way to gauge whether to make the deal permanent at a later stage. Where a problem may arise is due to Melgarejo only having one international cap to his name and whether he will be able to gain a work permit to play in England next year. If this obstacle is overcome, Liverpool will finally have senior cover at left-back which was something that Brendan Rodgers certainly needed to address this summer transfer window.

http://www.beyondthekop.com/4/post/2013 ... nfica.html
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Postby Doeboy » Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:50 am

Can cross Soldado off the list, spurs confirmed they have signed him
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Postby redno7 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:19 am

shame that, I thought he would come here. I think if Suarez had gone last week we would of gone in for him.

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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu Aug 01, 2013 12:06 pm

where real madrid have `marca` as their pravda-esque mouthpiece barcelona have a paper called `sport` and this is todays front page -

https://twitter.com/Diario_SPORT/status/362704375300374528/photo/1

they`ve admitted defeat in trying to get david luiz from chelsea so barcelona have set their sights elsewhere.
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Postby Doeboy » Thu Aug 01, 2013 12:18 pm

redno7 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 10:19 am wrote:shame that, I thought he would come here. I think if Suarez had gone last week we would of gone in for him.

hey ho, we survive



On the plus side. means more chance of Suarez staying once Bale moves to Madrid. Other than them, I'm struggling to see any real destinations for him. If Chelsea get nowhere with Rooney, I think they  may try for him
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Postby red till i die!! » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:32 pm

Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers admits he still has money to spend in the remainder of the transfer window but has no intention of wasting it on unnecessary impulse buys.

Rodgers has already signed four players - at an estimated cost of £25million - and while his greatest challenge will be holding on to striker Luis Suarez there is still the scope for further strengthening in addition to reacting to anything that happens with the Uruguay international.

But, as he has said before, he will not bring in players just to be seen to be active in the market.

"They have to be of the right quality, that's the bottom line," he said.

"We've got money to spend on getting that quality in but if it's not available I won't waste it for the sake of bringing a player in.

"We're really working hard to bring in the type of profile that can really help us push on.

Rodgers is more than happy with the quartet he has already signed, having brought in Sunderland goalkeeper Simon Mignolet, Manchester City defender Kolo Toure, Celta Vigo's Iago Aspas and Sevilla's Luis Alberto.

"All of the new boys have settled in really well," he told LFC TV.

"Simon Mignolet has been first-class. He has shown that he is one of the top young goalkeepers in European football.

I think he will prove over the next coming years at Liverpool that he is a top goalkeeper.

"Kolo Toure speaks for himself - his experience and his fitness has been first-class since he came in and he's a really good man.

"That was the idea of bringing him in, because of his winning mentality and his personality.

"Iago has settled in well and got a few goals in pre-season, which is great for his confidence. He's a livewire in and around the box.

"Luis Alberto is obviously still young but has shown the qualities, technically, and has got a strong mentality.

"I think we can see early on that he can end up being a very good player for Liverpool."

Rodgers is also keen to inject a youthful element into the squad and having given 18-year-old Raheem Sterling a lengthy run last season there is a chance Jordon Ibe, 17, will also be handed an opportunity having made his senior debut on the final day of last season.

"Some of the young players have been brilliant on the (pre-season) trip, the likes of young Raheem Sterling," said the Reds boss.

"He has reminded me of what he was last summer, but he has got a little bit more personality now he has had a year's experience. At 18, he has looked really good.

"Young Jordon Ibe, for 17 years of age, the talk before we came over was that he might need to get experience at a lower level just to get used to playing in front of crowds.

"Well, he's not going to play in front of many more than 83,000 and 95,000 so we come back knowing he can play in front of crowds.

"The players have the opportunity every single day to show that desire to be in the team.

"There's always room there for people to force their way into the team.

"We finished strongly at the end of last season and it's important to build on that. It's a team that's improving and progressing, but still always with room to improve."

There is no doubt the loss of Suarez - for whom Arsenal have had two bids rejected - would be a setback, as captain Steven Gerrard admits.

"Where we sit actually right now (outside the top four), it all depends on what decision Luis Suarez makes in the next few weeks. If we lose him then the challenge becomes even more difficult. It's that simple," he told The Independent.

"If he goes to Arsenal, it obviously makes our season that little bit more difficult.

"It strengthens them an awful lot and they are our rivals for a top-four position. From the club's point of view it doesn't make sense at all, no matter how much money is put on the table.

"If he was to go abroad to a Madrid or Barcelona I would totally understand it. He's a South American. He's good enough to play in either of those teams.

"If I was him I would wait for one of those two clubs because I think he's good enough to play for them."

Gerrard, who had his own doubts about remaining at Anfield when Chelsea twice came calling, admits he has been trying his best to persuade Suarez to stay.

"I've spoken to Luis loads and of course I'm trying to get him to stay," he told the Liverpool Echo.

"We will have to wait and see if I have any joy.

It's a difficult one from a team-mate's perspective as you've got to show a player respect.

"Luis is his own guy and makes his own decisions. But Luis Suarez knows what I want him to do, don't worry about that."

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Postby red till i die!! » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:34 pm

talk here of skrtel going on loan to napoli for £2mil with an option to buy for £10mil next season  :glare:

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Postby tubby » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:51 pm

Nobody is saying go and buy whoever on an impulse. We've had all summer to shop around ffs. This is basically him saying we don't have any money unless we get some from sales first.

The right players are there, if you can't get them for a reasonable price you sometimes have to spend more. That doesn't make the transfer any less credible, just means you are determined to improve your squad.

Wish we had a proper MD who could do all the yes man talking as I'm sure BR will end up copping a load of flak for this.
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Postby Johnny Boy » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:04 pm

I think we do have money to spend, he just clearly is looking for a certain type of player.
We wanted the lad who went to Dortmund it appears so had £20m to spend on him.

I don't get the Skrtel thing, Brendan may not rate him, but another loan deal?
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Postby damjan193 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:55 pm

It's not like we have forever to wait around though. Soldado has already been signed by Spurs without getting the money from Bale. Not to mention they've signed Paulinho. What if they end up with all 3 of them in their team? We had enough time to get someone else after Mkhtaryan went to Dortmund, so I doubt that "taking our time" is the reason for the holdup.

Since Skrtel is leaving, it looks as if we're going to finally sign a good CB at least. The fact that it's only a loan for Skrtel bugs me as well, but I think that Napoli will have to sign him for 10m next season if he stays fit. After what happened with Aquilani though, we have every right to be concerned.
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Postby JC_81 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:58 pm

Napoli are taking the pi.ss if there's truth in loaning Skrtel, and we're stupid to entertain it.

I've said it before they were willing to part with 34 mil for Higuain so they can fu.ck off with loan deals.

Might as well loan them Anfield while we're at it.  Fu.ck sake.
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Postby C-R » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:02 pm

Liverpool Football Club today confirmed that defender Jack Robinson has joined Championship side Blackpool on a season-long loan deal
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Postby C-R » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:06 pm

Liverpool have nosed ahead of Arsenal in the battle to sign Atletico Madrid frontman Diego Costa after submitting a formal offer, according to reports in Spain.

Brendan Rodgers is on the hunt for attacking players and he is believed to have made a bid for Costa.

The Brazilian enjoyed an excellent campaign at the Vicente Calderon last term and had been expected to take over the main attacking mantle from Radamel Falcao, who joined Monaco earlier this summer.

But Atletico, who have brought in David Villa and Leo Baptistao, could now cash in on him after Liverpool firmed up their interest.

The 24-year-old's buyout clause is set at £21.8m, although it is not yet clear if Liverpool will meet that valuation or negotiate a lower price.

Arsenal are also monitoring the two-time Brazil international's situation.

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Postby damjan193 » Thu Aug 01, 2013 5:46 pm

22m for Costa? No way. I never thought we'd be after a player like him. I hope we're not looking at him to replace Suarez.
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