Liverpool FC Forum

[Penguins]

Well, Wenger is playing a blinder here. Everything for him is a win-win.

He makes a bid of 40 million and by doing so he:

1. Creates havoc at LFC turning Suarez head even more
2. Makes ***** fans happy that he is bidding for top class players
3. Can hope Suarez takes it a step further and messes up LFC's beginning of the season while he can
look and smile from afar while his club can get on with theirs.

It's obvious he's never going to bid 50 million+ but he hasn't lost anything from bidding and gained alot by derailing LFC's preseason.

Just waiting for a cheapshot by RM at the end of the window if they fail with Bale.

[Kenny Kan]

Wenger playing a blinder - Arsenal imo are the mugs in this.

a) for all their supposed "ambition and intent" they haven't signed anyone - Higuian faild, Rooney failed and there was another player they lost out on.
b) Arsenal will balk at Liverpool's eventual price and have been told they won't sell him to their rivals.
c) Madrid if anyone will sign Suarez if they fail to get Bale.
d) win win? if he fails again to get another signing their fans will hit the roof, many are already wondering that these rumours of linked players are just that, to keep them happy re- their "ambition".

So for all Arsenal's audacity (which is only throwing a cocky bid in) Wenger is hardly playing a blinder, he's still yet to sign anyone  and they've shown less ambition than us in the transfer market so far. They're worse than us in the transfer market where "intent" is shown and I'm glad it's them who are trying to sign Suarez and not Chelsea or Citeh.

f.ucking cheap co-orperate miser k.unt.s.

[Kenny Kan]

Luis Suarez could turn his back on a move to Arsenal – because he does not rate their Champions League prospects, write Dean Jones and Tom Hopkinson of the Sunday People..

The Uruguayan striker is determined to quit Liverpool after writing off their hopes of making it into Europe’s elite next season.

But he still faces a dilemma over whether to hand in a transfer request and force through a move to the Emirates.

After telling Reds chiefs he wants to play at the highest level, Suarez does not want the embarrassment of joining Arsenal – and ending up in the Europa League before the campaign has hardly got under way.

The Gunners face a potentially tricky play-off to reach the Champions League proper.

Their qualifier for the money-spinning group stages will not be settled until three days before the transfer window closes.

Suarez is convinced the Anfield giants have not strengthened sufficiently over the summer to finish in the top four.

He has been checking out properties in London, but his future is still far from decided.

Over the summer, Suarez has been confiding in close pal and international team-mate Edinson Cavani – who has just joined Paris-Saint-Germain from Napoli for £55m.

Cavani said: “We have been speaking a lot and, while I can’t tell you everything, I can tell you that he is desperate to start playing Champions League football.

“Liverpool already know that, though, because he has told them.

“I think if he thought Liverpool would qualify for Champions League football next season he would stay but, with the other top teams in England adding players, he doesn’t think Liverpool have the resources to break into the Champions League spots.

“I have said before one of the most complete strikers in the world needs to be playing at the top level and I hope Liverpool understand that.

“He doesn’t want to leave on bad terms because he respects the club and fans, but he needs to achieve his dreams in the game.”

Earlier this month, Sunday People Sport revealed his exit could turn messy over the interpretation of a £40m clause. And Arsenal have now tabled a cheeky bid of £40,000,001 which they – and Suarez’s agents – believe should allow him to leave.

But some misgivings over a switch to the Gunners could still leave the door open for Real Madrid.

Meanwhile, Liverpool insist they will not sell to any club who do not meet their £50m-plus valuation of the player.



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We do need 1 or 2, possibly 3 first team-ers to come in and strengthen us. This is the annoying thing with FSG imo, they should really back their manager with a bit more money if they want the club to challenge for CL places. I know the window isn't shut but I would have thought we'd have equally moved as quickly to strengthen the team like we did with the squad - so there is still that hope before completely writing them off. I understand they're still probably reeling about Comolli and Dalgish's signings that ultimately wasted their money but they should either sell up or back the manager of their choice if they want to seriously remain in this lucrative sport.

[Doeboy]

Think Madrid will turn their attention to Suarez if they don't get Bale. Problem for Madrid is that they tend to spend big on players who they can recoup their money back and some through image rights etc. Not sure Suarez has the right level of marketability for them to justify spending £50m+ considering his past misdemeanour's. My concern would be if Chelsea fail to get Rooney, they may well turn to Suarez

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

Kenny Kan

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We do need 1 or 2, possibly 3 first team-ers to come in and strengthen us. This is the annoying thing with FSG imo, they should really back their manager with a bit more money if they want the club to challenge for CL places. I know the window isn't shut but I would have thought we'd have equally moved as quickly to strengthen the team like we did with the squad - so there is still that hope before completely writing them off. I understand they're still probably reeling about Comolli and Dalgish's signings that ultimately wasted their money but they should either sell up or back the manager of their choice if they want to seriously remain in this lucrative sport.

in a way you cant blame suarez, by the sounds of it he would be prepared to stay here if the club showed any sort of ambition to get into the top 4 but up to now (with a nett spend of £3m) we clearly havent.
he obviously wants to win things, do fsg?

[Basil]

But we acted quickly and signed some good squad players and then the Suarez bombshell, right at the start of the transfer window, it's difficult to plan your major signings when you don't know if your best player is staying leaving. I would think we would have gone for our next batch of signings if this didn't happen.

Up to know our net spend has been fairly neutral so i would expect us to be ready to make a couple of decent signings, but we have to wait and see what's happening with Suarez.

I can't see Arsenal offering any more that the reported 42.5M, if RM come in with a £45M+ offer i think he'll go but the fear is they'll let it drag on.

[only me]

Kenny Kan

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We do need 1 or 2, possibly 3 first team-ers to come in and strengthen us. This is the annoying thing with FSG imo, they should really back their manager with a bit more money if they want the club to challenge for CL places. I know the window isn't shut but I would have thought we'd have equally moved as quickly to strengthen the team like we did with the squad - so there is still that hope before completely writing them off. I understand they're still probably reeling about Comolli and Dalgish's signings that ultimately wasted their money but they should either sell up or back the manager of their choice if they want to seriously remain in this lucrative sport.

in a way you cant blame suarez, by the sounds of it he would be prepared to stay here if the club showed any sort of ambition to get into the top 4 but up to now (with a nett spend of £3m) we clearly havent.
he obviously wants to win things, do fsg?

Why you ,as well as others ,are playing the "devil's advocate" when it comes to Suarez visa-vi Liverpool? Since when we are placing so much energy and words into what ONE player thinks or want no matter how talented he is and no matter how sharp his teeth are? For God sake it's not as if Luis is a Liverpool legend ,product of our academy  ,played here forever and carried the Red Flag for year? He is another drifter ,opportunistic player of our time ,which will kiss the banner while dealing his departure to our rivals ,he didn't show a lot of respect to the fans and to his teammates with his reckless behavior so why are you so "loyal" to him?

Are you that afraid we will collapse and disappear into oblivion just because ONE player leaves?

[Benny The Noon]

But we acted quickly and signed some good squad players and then the Suarez bombshell, right at the start of the transfer window, it's difficult to plan your major signings when you don't know if your best player is staying leaving. I would think we would have gone for our next batch of signings if this didn't happen.

Up to know our net spend has been fairly neutral so i would expect us to be ready to make a couple of decent signings, but we have to wait and see what's happening with Suarez.

I can't see Arsenal offering any more that the reported 42.5M, if RM come in with a £45M+ offer i think he'll go but the fear is they'll let it drag on.

The problem is I think the first batch of signings should have been the quality first team starters - a couple of big signings to inspire the fans and squad and show their intent early - not have a net spend of a couple mil and purchase a couple squad players - it doesn't inspire anyone.

If those quality players were signed early then we might not be dealing with this Suarez situation right now and he would have possibly given us another season. Think it's too late not - we should have be pro active early

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

Kenny Kan

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We do need 1 or 2, possibly 3 first team-ers to come in and strengthen us. This is the annoying thing with FSG imo, they should really back their manager with a bit more money if they want the club to challenge for CL places. I know the window isn't shut but I would have thought we'd have equally moved as quickly to strengthen the team like we did with the squad - so there is still that hope before completely writing them off. I understand they're still probably reeling about Comolli and Dalgish's signings that ultimately wasted their money but they should either sell up or back the manager of their choice if they want to seriously remain in this lucrative sport.

in a way you cant blame suarez, by the sounds of it he would be prepared to stay here if the club showed any sort of ambition to get into the top 4 but up to now (with a nett spend of £3m) we clearly havent.
he obviously wants to win things, do fsg?

Why you ,as well as others ,are playing the "devil's advocate" when it comes to Suarez visa-vi Liverpool? Since when we are placing so much energy and words into what ONE player thinks or want no matter how talented he is and no matter how sharp his teeth are? For God sake it's not as if Luis is a Liverpool legend ,product of our academy  ,played here forever and carried the Red Flag for year? He is another drifter ,opportunistic player of our time ,which will kiss the banner while dealing his departure to our rivals ,he didn't show a lot of respect to the fans and to his teammates with his reckless behavior so why are you so "loyal" to him?

Are you that afraid we will collapse and disappear into oblivion just because ONE player leaves?

this is not about suarez its about liverpool football club, suarez is just the latest in a long line of quality players who have left the club over the past 4/5 years.
infact torres was saying the exact same things as suarez, torres was saying he was promised by the owners that liverpool would be signing other top players but they never came.
i think LFC just want one or two top players to sell shirts, keep the fans happy and to stay relatively competative, but these days 1 or 2 top players isnt enough to make you are top side anymore.
the likes of suarez and torres arent prepared to waste their careers being shirt sellers for a club that has no genuine ambition of competing for the top prizes in the game.
it`s no use blaming suarez, this situation is going to keep on repeating itself until the club decides it genuinely wants to compete.
this time next year no doubt you will be calling coutinho all the names under the sun, because i`m telling you someone with his ability wont be playing outside the CL for long either.
yes modern players are mercenaries but it`s the club here that lacks the ambition, not the players, they want silverware and if liverpool arent interested in doing what it takes to win silverware they`ll go elsewhere.

[only me]

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this is not about suarez its about liverpool football club, suarez is just the latest in a long line of quality players who have left the club over the past 4/5 years.
infact torres was saying the exact same things as suarez, torres was saying he was promised by the owners that liverpool would be signing other top players but they never came.
i think LFC just want one or two top players to sell shirts, keep the fans happy and to stay relatively competative, but these days 1 or 2 top players isnt enough to make you are top side anymore.
the likes of suarez and torres arent prepared to waste their careers being shirt sellers for a club that has no genuine ambition of competing for the top prizes in the game.
it`s no use blaming suarez, this situation is going to keep on repeating itself until the club decides it genuinely wants to compete.
this time next year no doubt you will be calling coutinho all the names under the sun, because i`m telling you someone with his ability wont be playing outside the CL for long either.
yes modern players are mercenaries but it`s the club here that lacks the ambition, not the players, they want silverware and if liverpool arent interested in doing what it takes to win silverware they`ll go elsewhere.[/quote]

I'm not naïve over this generation of players ,but it was LFC which gave them front and center stage to be seen by all ,Torres and Suarez came from second string clubs and got their Global prestige in LFC ,and it's not as if they played 4-5 years ,Suarez has barely popped his cherry and already wants out...Anyway just irritates me the amount of backing he gets considering he isn't the standup model others were. (Alonso for starts).

[tubby]

TBH If it hadn't been us the likes of Torres and Suarez would have gone to someone else and flourished the same. We were just lucky to be in the right place at the right time.

That however is not the mentality with which a team should be looking to mount a top 4 finish.

[parchpea]

Some rumours knocking about that his agent has asked for double money and he will stay.

It is always down to cash with 99.9% of players these days.

[JC_81]

Some rumours knocking about that his agent has asked for double money and he will stay.

It is always down to cash with 99.9% of players these days.

He got his wages doubled last summer.  I would tell him where to go if this is true.

[Kash_Mountain]

Some rumours knocking about that his agent has asked for double money and he will stay.

It is always down to cash with 99.9% of players these days.

He got his wages doubled last summer.  I would tell him where to go if this is true.

What is current salary, £120.000 or higher?

[Kash_Mountain]

Some rumours knocking about that his agent has asked for double money and he will stay.

It is always down to cash with 99.9% of players these days.

He got his wages doubled last summer.  I would tell him where to go if this is true.

What is his current salary, £120.000 or higher?