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[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

if we have got £20m to throw around we should be spending it on a quality CB, scoring goals wasnt really a problem last season, keeping hold of leads was.
we scored 2 against city twice, went 2-0 up away at arsenal, went 2-0 up away at goodison, scored 2 against chelsea at anfield and went 1-0 up against united and didnt win any of those games because our defence couldnt cope whe it came under sustained pressure.
when we did finally beat a top team we had to score 3 against an in form spurs outfit to secure the 3 points.
most games between the big teams are decided by tight margins, 1-0 or 2-1 scorelines, so if we have to score 3 goals against quality opposition to get 3 points (because our defence cant keep them out at the other end) then we arent going to win many of those big clashes thats for sure, after all it takes some doing scoring 3 goals against a good side.

[Benny The Noon]

Hate figure

And I can't remember many players actually buying out their contract to the extent of paying £20mil ?

Certainly not players where the club doesn't want the player to leave unless they get full compensation

We won't allow Suarez to go unless Madrid pay the going rate for him ( that we deem ) - the same should be valid for HM - we either pay what they want or try and negotiate to a price we both agree on. If players start to be allowed to just stop playing and buy their contract out without the clubs consent then the doors will open.

[supersub]

Hate figure

And I can't remember many players actually buying out their contract to the extent of paying £20mil ?

I agree , it's usually a more dishonourable way like Owen, McMannaman,Torres for example

with regards to the hate figure...you made it quite clear over the last 18 months how affectionate you were towards Suarez

[SouthCoastShankly]

Yes, apparently Mkhtaryan can break his contract and pay a fine of around 20m in pounds. I'd rather we do that than pay the 25m Sakhtar are asking, that would be a good deal for us and reasonable for both sides. Sakhtar are saying that they want this to be done in a "civilized way" as in not by Mkhtaryan forcing his way out, but they're asking for too much money IMO. 20m is enough.

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I don't want a player at the club that will happily do that

Imagine how we would feel if Suarez did it to us

That would start to set and very dangerous precident

hope you are not laying the foundations for your next hate figure.....unfortunately players have broken contracts for many a year; every club has probably experienced it at sometime, we have been the victims of player power ourselves ....buying out your contract seems pretty reasonable considering some players would just play like a bag of sh!te for awhile just to force through a move

For me it is not a case of what the player does to force the move, it is more about us as a fan base and the club supporting this mechanism of achieving a transfer. It would leave the club with little credibility in the transfer market and make future transfers that much harder to complete, due to the distrust it would cause.

[supersub]

I'm not condoning any action that a player or his entourage of advisors do to obtain a transfer, I was just concerned that if any player were to buy the remainder of his contract, which he is entitled to do, then liverpool were to buy sign said player, certain fans would use this action as a stick to beat same said player, despite not biting anyone

[LFC1990]

I dont do Twitter but apparantly John Thomson who ever he is from the Liverpool echo has tweeted saying Suarez will stay and HM will join. If someone could get the actual tweet that would be great

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http://www.nemzetisport.hu/angol_labdarugas/liverpool-napokon-belul-lezarulhat-a-dzsudzsak-ugy-2254805

Loosely translated he has already been in Liverpool for talks and will decide between us and Inter ......Cant see it myself why would Dynamo pay 19 million
and then supposedly be willing to sell for 12 million.   

Talented fecker though.



Lifted from his Wiki page

On 7 February 2013, it was revealed that Liverpool F.C. failed to sign Dzsudzsák during the January transfer. Brendan Rodgers, Liverpool's boss, was looking for a winger and among the possible alternatives there were Tom Ince and Dzsudzsák. According to József Vörösbarányi, Dzsdzsák's agent, Dynamo did not show willingness in selling him. [22][23]
On 17 June 2013, Skysports.com published an article on Dzsudzsák's possible move to Liverpool F.C. or Inter Milan. József Vörösbarányi, Dzsudzsák's manager, claims that both Liverpool and Inter are among those clubs who showed interest in Dzsudzsák. However, Dzsudzsák did not tell his willingness to leave the club since he feels good at Dynamo and has an excellent relationship with his coach, Dan Petrescu.

[Benny The Noon]

I'm not condoning any action that a player or his entourage of advisors do to obtain a transfer, I was just concerned that if any player were to buy the remainder of his contract, which he is entitled to do, then liverpool were to buy sign said player, certain fans would use this action as a stick to beat same said player, despite not biting anyone

Players can only buy themselves out of their contract if they are over a specific age and have ( I think ) a season left on their contract. Suarez for example can't buy his way out of his contract - same with this Henrik.

And both Owen and Macca werent going to sign a new contract ( Macca ran his down ) and Torres put in a transfer request but none of them went on strike refusing to play until they were allowed to leave. The last player to try that was Tevez.

"Certain Fans" possibly would feel they wouldn't be able to trust someone who did that to his previous club. And Suarez has been critisized anytime he has ***** up - it just seems that he ***** up more than anyone else - he certainly isn't a hate figure but his actions at the club have been very damaging to the image of our club so far.

[Benny The Noon]

I dont do Twitter but apparantly John Thomson who ever he is from the Liverpool echo has tweeted saying Suarez will stay and HM will join. If someone could get the actual tweet that would be great

He said it in an interview on Talksport.

[damjan193]

Yes, apparently Mkhtaryan can break his contract and pay a fine of around 20m in pounds. I'd rather we do that than pay the 25m Sakhtar are asking, that would be a good deal for us and reasonable for both sides. Sakhtar are saying that they want this to be done in a "civilized way" as in not by Mkhtaryan forcing his way out, but they're asking for too much money IMO. 20m is enough.

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i would NOT be happy with that situation. To support a forced move when your team is the beneficiary is hypocrisy of the highest order.

If that is the way it pans out we should be ashamed. Especially when you consider the outrage caused by Suarez' attempted forced move antics.

I understand where you're coming from guys, but if we don't do it, it doesn't mean it won't happen with us in the future (for example Suarez forcing his way out). It's how things work in modern football. You may think that an extra 5 million is nothing to multimillionaire owners, but you're wrong, 5 million is still a lot of money. The amount of money that you can gain or lose in this business is huge and it's not a joke guys. That's why nowadays we see things being dealt with in this way very often.

[damjan193]

Despite what was said, I always thought that Mkhtaryan would be brought here as a replacement for Suarez, using the money from his sale to bring the Armenian here. If Suarez is staying though, then I'll have to agree with yakka, the money can be better spent elsewhere (reinforcing the defense). We're strong enough in attack as it is.

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The latest news stories and transfer rumours connected to Liverpool.

Luis Suarez has been told he must join up with Liverpool on their tour of Australia this month. Suarez made it clear during the recent Confederations Cup that he’d be open to a move away from Anfield, with Real Madrid still thought to be very keen on signing him.

Liverpool could be on the verge of signing Balazs Dzsudzsak after Hungarian newspaper Nemzeti Sport claimed he’d been to Liverpool to work out a deal. The paper also claims a £12 million fee is in place and Dynamo Moscow will announce the deal shortly.


Liverpool have been boosted if they are still interested in Ajax defender Toby Alderweireld. The player’s agent has confirmed that Bayer Leverkusen have pulled out of a deal to sign him, which means a move to Anfield could be back on the cards this summer.

Liverpool remain in the hunt to sign David Villa according to the bookies. If Luis Suarez leaves the club, Liverpool will reportedly turn their attention to signing the Barcelona striker who has been strongly linked with Tottenham Hotspur over the last week.

Liverpool could be about to step up their pursuit of highly rated FC Schalke defender Kyriakos Papadopoulos. The Daily Mirror has reported that Brendan Rodgers is ready to target the Greek star, who has been linked with the club since virtually the end of last season.

Former Liverpool midfielder Jonjo Shelvey has revealed Brendan Rodgers advised him to join Swansea City. Shelvey has said Rodgers refused to sell him to a club that wouldn’t aid his development and that has revealed his former boss thinks the Swans are perfect for his style of play.

Brendan Rodgers has called new goalkeeper Simon Mignolet, one of the best shot stoppers in Europe. Rodgers has revealed he’s been very open with his goalkeepers ahead of the new season, giving Mignolet every chance of starting as the club’s number one.

Former Liverpool player Mark Lawrenson has praised the way Liverpool’s transfer business has changed. He points out that a couple of years back Liverpool were playing huge fees for players where the emphasis is now on making quality and good value additions.

http://hereisthecity.com/2013/07/04/liv ... dzsudzsak/?

[Kenny Kan]

Hate figure

And I can't remember many players actually buying out their contract to the extent of paying £20mil ?

I agree , it's usually a more dishonourable way like Owen, McMannaman,Torres for example

with regards to the hate figure...you made it quite clear over the last 18 months how affectionate you were towards Suarez

Boxscarf?

[SouthCoastShankly]

Yes, apparently Mkhtaryan can break his contract and pay a fine of around 20m in pounds. I'd rather we do that than pay the 25m Sakhtar are asking, that would be a good deal for us and reasonable for both sides. Sakhtar are saying that they want this to be done in a "civilized way" as in not by Mkhtaryan forcing his way out, but they're asking for too much money IMO. 20m is enough.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... VM.twitter

i would NOT be happy with that situation. To support a forced move when your team is the beneficiary is hypocrisy of the highest order.

If that is the way it pans out we should be ashamed. Especially when you consider the outrage caused by Suarez' attempted forced move antics.

I understand where you're coming from guys, but if we don't do it, it doesn't mean it won't happen with us in the future (for example Suarez forcing his way out). It's how things work in modern football. You may think that an extra 5 million is nothing to multimillionaire owners, but you're wrong, 5 million is still a lot of money. The amount of money that you can gain or lose in this business is huge and it's not a joke guys. That's why nowadays we see things being dealt with in this way very often.

NO it isn't the way football works. Players who buy their way out of a contract is a rarity and rightly so, clubs will never let player power like that become common place and rightly so.

You seem to be way off the point

[damjan193]

I wasn't talking only about players buying their way out of a club, I was talking about forcing their way out in general, from paying a fine for a contract cancellation and transfer requests to whining to the media. All these things force the club to lower their asking price for the player, which obviously means that the player is trying to leave by force and pressure. If you think that this is a rarity then you should inform yourself better.