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[Benny The Noon]

He's never been booked for diving.

And I can only recall that dive against Stoke on the weekend, was the only one he's produced this season.

He got booked against Sunderland

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

funny how the press werent so outraged about this dive by welbeck when englands world cup qualification was on the line.
look at that last angle....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ9kWazrQ_0

here`s another one from the same player the week after - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miK7qyot6Kw

the way the press have reacted to suarez you`d swear he was the only player diving in the division

[devaney]

No he isn't totally to blame - but he does carry blame for the situation

You havent said anyone else is responsible?
"The reputation has been created because of his actions on the pitch"
You have not mentioned opposition players, managers, the media. You have simply put everything down to his actions.
You are being biased and unfair by simply blaming Suarez for this whole disgraceful mess

Which one of those made Suarez dive ?

Which one of those made Suarez act like a spoilt child everytime he didn't get a decision

Which one of those made Suarez go down like he has been shot

For years and years we crucified players like Drogba , Robben , Rooney etc for diving ?! And now some are trying to justify our own player diving

Suarez got his reputation because he dived and because the guy it a total ***** on the pitch.

No point in arguing with Mr Sanctimonious I'm Always Right BennyTheNoon - he's a fkg legend in his own mind! How anybody can call Suarez a total ***** on the pitch in one breath and say they support him in another is just a total ars.e wipe in my opinion. His constant cr.ap has gone along way towards ruining this forum. Banter is one thing but castigating players that work their bollux off and make a serious contribution on the pitch is another. What a complete and utter fukwit.

[Benny The Noon]

Suarez is a ***** on the pitch ! That's a fact

Just look at everything throughout his career ffs

Instead of ranting and bleating away look at the facts

Just because he acts a ***** on the pitch doesn't mean I don't support him you clown.

Try engaging your one single brain cell before typing

[Thommo's perm]

No he isn't totally to blame - but he does carry blame for the situation

You havent said anyone else is responsible?
"The reputation has been created because of his actions on the pitch"
You have not mentioned opposition players, managers, the media. You have simply put everything down to his actions.
You are being biased and unfair by simply blaming Suarez for this whole disgraceful mess

Which one of those made Suarez dive ?
Which one of those made Suarez act like a spoilt child everytime he didn't get a decision
Which one of those made Suarez go down like he has been shot
For years and years we crucified players like Drogba , Robben , Rooney etc for diving ?! And now some are trying to justify our own player diving
Suarez got his reputation because he dived and because the guy it a total ***** on the pitch.

For someone who is supposed to be supportive youre not doing a very good job are you?
Once again you are making the "reputation" issue out to be solely down to Suarez. It is not
And no matter how many tantrums you have and how many swear words you use it wont change the fact that real Liverpool fans see that Suarez is the victim of a witchhunt of which the diving is yet another way of vilifying him by others. This has now gone beyond reasonable argument because he is being punished in advance of his actions by those who are supposed to be impartial.
The whole thing stinks and we should get behind him instead of calling him names and agreeing with those who hate us and want to see us fall

[Benny The Noon]

Does Suarez dive - yes

I'm not the one having tantrums.

Suarez hasn't helped himself on a number of occasions - that's a fact that is clear

Suarez needs to do the one thing that will shut them up - score goals. Stay on his feet and score goals.

Suarez has created numerous problems throughout his career on the pitch.

Cut the antics out - score goals - then who gives a f*ck what they say about him

Whilst he keeps providing the ammunition they will keep firing the shots at him.

[heimdall]

They are the facts involved in every situation Suarez has dived or gone down easily. He has gained a reputation through his own actions and they have given people the opportunity to spread that reputation around. He doesn't get close call decisions because of that reputation - that's wrong - there is no denying that but refs are going to be wary of him. If Suarez hasn't dived on Sunday then the media wouldn't have focused on it .

"gone down easily"?
So he hasnt deserved any penalty hes been awarded and doesnt deserve one in the future because of his "reputation"?
Do you not think this "reputation" has been in the most part created by others to vilify one of our players and deny him a fair crack of the whip?

And how does he get rid of the reputation? By diving or not diving? Do you now maybe see why he annoys so many of us fans whilst the other "true" fans would probably support Jimmy Saville if he was playing for us at the moment!

[Thommo's perm]

Does Suarez dive - yes

I'm not the one having tantrums.

Suarez hasn't helped himself on a number of occasions - that's a fact that is clear

Suarez needs to do the one thing that will shut them up - score goals. Stay on his feet and score goals.

Suarez has created numerous problems throughout his career on the pitch.

Cut the antics out - score goals - then who gives a f*ck what they say about him

Whilst he keeps providing the ammunition they will keep firing the shots at him.

You are having a tantrum by calling one of our players a naughty name because you are frustrated with him
What if he cant "stay on his feet"? Will he be refused a penalty because of his "reputation"? If thats true why didnt he get one at Norwich where he tried to stay on his feet but he couldnt? You seem to be saying he should stay on his feet but hes not going to get a penalty no matter what?
What he did with other clubs should have no bearing on what he does here, they are firing shots at him whether he gives them ammunition or not
Surely you can see that?

[Greavesie]

Suarez can 'go down easily' all he wants. There's a grey area between diving and drawing a foul and going down easily. The problem is judging how much contact is made and if it is enough to actually force the player to the ground. I read a bit from Mr Owen saying he went down easily to win two pennos for England but is dead against diving. Drawing fouls and winning penalties is as much of the game as genuine fouls. It's a nightmare for defenders but it's been part of the game for years

For the record I can't stand players that go down easily as much as those who actually dive but retrospective punishment should only be in place for genuine diving imo. Suarez seems to be being vilified as if he's the only one who's a master of the art. Is he f**k, he's been the pantomine villain in English football since the Evra b0llocks

Reputations shouldn't come into it whatsoever, the officials are supposed to be impartial

[Benny The Noon]

Diving isn't going to help the situation is it ?

I call him a ***** on the pitch because he is - not because I'm frustrated with him

It was stupid of him to dive on Sunday after the manager spent the week asking for better treatment.

If he can't stay on his feet then he hasn't dived has he - through time he may well start to get decisions and his reputation may die down again if he just scores goals.

Everytime he dives he enhances that reputation

[Thommo's perm]

Diving isn't going to help the situation is it ?

I call him a ***** on the pitch because he is - not because I'm frustrated with him

It was stupid of him to dive on Sunday after the manager spent the week asking for better treatment.

If he can't stay on his feet then he hasn't dived has he - through time he may well start to get decisions and his reputation may die down again if he just scores goals.

Everytime he dives he enhances that reputation

Being biased doesnt help either, but I dont see you castigating or criticising  referees or cu'nts like purple nose for encouraging this "reputation". He didnt dive against norwich but still didnt get the penalty even though it was one of the most blatant I have seen. That was a disgrace, yet you focus on what he did last week against stoke. Which by the way was not punished with a yellow card.
You are focussing your anger on Suarez and it is clear you are frustrated because you keep going on that he should change his behaviour. How about if they change their behaviour as well, wouldnt that be fair?

[Benny The Noon]

I'm not angry - I know what the refs have done etc ?!

Me shouting and swearing about them what make a difference

What we can control as a club is the actions of our own players

[heimdall]

Diving isn't going to help the situation is it ?

I call him a ***** on the pitch because he is - not because I'm frustrated with him

It was stupid of him to dive on Sunday after the manager spent the week asking for better treatment.

If he can't stay on his feet then he hasn't dived has he - through time he may well start to get decisions and his reputation may die down again if he just scores goals.

Everytime he dives he enhances that reputation

Being biased doesnt help either, but I dont see you castigating or criticising  referees or cu'nts like purple nose for encouraging this "reputation". He didnt dive against norwich but still didnt get the penalty even though it was one of the most blatant I have seen. That was a disgrace, yet you focus on what he did last week against stoke. Which by the way was not punished with a yellow card.
You are focussing your anger on Suarez and it is clear you are frustrated because you keep going on that he should change his behaviour. How about if they change their behaviour as well, wouldnt that be fair?

Who do you consider a diver?

[Thommo's perm]

Diving isn't going to help the situation is it ?

I call him a ***** on the pitch because he is - not because I'm frustrated with him

It was stupid of him to dive on Sunday after the manager spent the week asking for better treatment.

If he can't stay on his feet then he hasn't dived has he - through time he may well start to get decisions and his reputation may die down again if he just scores goals.

Everytime he dives he enhances that reputation

Being biased doesnt help either, but I dont see you castigating or criticising  referees or cu'nts like purple nose for encouraging this "reputation". He didnt dive against norwich but still didnt get the penalty even though it was one of the most blatant I have seen. That was a disgrace, yet you focus on what he did last week against stoke. Which by the way was not punished with a yellow card.
You are focussing your anger on Suarez and it is clear you are frustrated because you keep going on that he should change his behaviour. How about if they change their behaviour as well, wouldnt that be fair?

Who do you consider a diver?

The vast majority of strikers in the world once they get inside the box
Who do you?

[Thommo's perm]

I'm not angry - I know what the refs have done etc ?!

Me shouting and swearing about them what make a difference

What we can control as a club is the actions of our own players

Nonsense
You are perpetuating the "reputation" issue because you are singling Suarez out and denying that others have responsibility for it as well.
You could make a difference by backing our player instead of continually slagging him off