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[devaney]

I don't remember reading all this negative sh.it about Michael Owen and he was no angel in the penalty box by his own admission: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story ... na?cc=5739

Yes Luis's ironic dive  from his knees out of utter frustration was simply more ammunition for downright fkg hypocrites like Pulis who bragged about Crouch's hand ball goal against City. Some of you whinging so-called supporters also fall into the same category.

Did Suarez dive - Yes

Is it wrong - yes

Why does that make people "so called supporters" because they point that out ?

It's just stating facts

Because supporters do just that they support the team through thick and thin! YNWA - I suggest you read the words to the song and maybe a few times to let them sink in! Pointing something out is one thing but endlessly going on about it like a spoilt child is another thing entirely. There are enough people heaping lorry loads of shight on Luis and I simply cannot understand why the likes of you feel the need to join the party? If you feel your behaviour is that of a loyal supporter then that is your prerogative.I simply regard you as a WUM and a major reason for the decline of this forum!

[Benny The Noon]

Yes because you yourself has a great history of backing every Liverpool player haven't you. Or is it just selective backing through thick and thin.

Suarez dived - that's a simple fact - I'm not going support him diving because that's cheating.

[LFC1990]

Yes because you yourself has a great history of backing every Liverpool player haven't you. Or is it just selective backing through thick and thin.

Suarez dived - that's a simple fact - I'm not going support him diving because that's cheating.

I dont think people are asking you to support cheating. I think the problem is support our player in a time where, YES he dived and made a mistake in doing it but think about the past where he hasnt been given things surely it would get too much.

[Thommo's perm]

They are the facts involved in every situation Suarez has dived or gone down easily. He has gained a reputation through his own actions and they have given people the opportunity to spread that reputation around. He doesn't get close call decisions because of that reputation - that's wrong - there is no denying that but refs are going to be wary of him. If Suarez hasn't dived on Sunday then the media wouldn't have focused on it .

"gone down easily"?
So he hasnt deserved any penalty hes been awarded and doesnt deserve one in the future because of his "reputation"?
Do you not think this "reputation" has been in the most part created by others to vilify one of our players and deny him a fair crack of the whip?

[Benny The Noon]

Yes because you yourself has a great history of backing every Liverpool player haven't you. Or is it just selective backing through thick and thin.

Suarez dived - that's a simple fact - I'm not going support him diving because that's cheating.

I dont think people are asking you to support cheating. I think the problem is support our player in a time where, YES he dived and made a mistake in doing it but think about the past where he hasnt been given things surely it would get too much.

I do support him - just like I support every player who plays for us. And he hasn't been given things in the past and its wrong but I can see why he doesn't get decisions

[Benny The Noon]

They are the facts involved in every situation Suarez has dived or gone down easily. He has gained a reputation through his own actions and they have given people the opportunity to spread that reputation around. He doesn't get close call decisions because of that reputation - that's wrong - there is no denying that but refs are going to be wary of him. If Suarez hasn't dived on Sunday then the media wouldn't have focused on it .

"gone down easily"?
So he hasnt deserved any penalty hes been awarded and doesnt deserve one in the future because of his "reputation"?
Do you not think this "reputation" has been in the most part created by others to vilify one of our players and deny him a fair crack of the whip?

I didn't say he doesn't deserve any penalties he legitimately gets. But if he struggled to get them I can understand why.

The reputation has been created because of his actions on the pitch - those actions have given people the ammunition to create the big bad foriegn player

[Thommo's perm]

They are the facts involved in every situation Suarez has dived or gone down easily. He has gained a reputation through his own actions and they have given people the opportunity to spread that reputation around. He doesn't get close call decisions because of that reputation - that's wrong - there is no denying that but refs are going to be wary of him. If Suarez hasn't dived on Sunday then the media wouldn't have focused on it .

"gone down easily"?
So he hasnt deserved any penalty hes been awarded and doesnt deserve one in the future because of his "reputation"?
Do you not think this "reputation" has been in the most part created by others to vilify one of our players and deny him a fair crack of the whip?

I didn't say he doesn't deserve any penalties he legitimately gets. But if he struggled to get them I can understand why.

The reputation has been created because of his actions on the pitch - those actions have given people the ammunition to create the big bad foriegn player

So youre adamant that Suarez is totally to blame for this whole situation?

[Benny The Noon]

No he isn't totally to blame - but he does carry blame for the situation

[devaney]

Yes because you yourself has a great history of backing every Liverpool player haven't you. Or is it just selective backing through thick and thin.

Suarez dived - that's a simple fact - I'm not going support him diving because that's cheating.

Yes as usual you are right! The difference is I do not go on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on unlike you.

You claim diving to be cheating. Is it cheating or is it part of the game? A professional foul is technically cheating but do defenders who are repeatedly guilty get this sort of shight thrown at them. If this is your idea of supporting Suarez then you are deluded! Suarez has never been booked for cheating but he has been booked for simulation. Why don't the FA call it cheating.

[Thommo's perm]

No he isn't totally to blame - but he does carry blame for the situation

You havent said anyone else is responsible?
"The reputation has been created because of his actions on the pitch"
You have not mentioned opposition players, managers, the media. You have simply put everything down to his actions.
You are being biased and unfair by simply blaming Suarez for this whole disgraceful mess

[stmichael]

Say what you like about Lance Armstrong, but at least he's never done anything as bad as draw contact in the penalty area.

[Benny The Noon]

No he isn't totally to blame - but he does carry blame for the situation

You havent said anyone else is responsible?
"The reputation has been created because of his actions on the pitch"
You have not mentioned opposition players, managers, the media. You have simply put everything down to his actions.
You are being biased and unfair by simply blaming Suarez for this whole disgraceful mess

Which one of those made Suarez dive ?

Which one of those made Suarez act like a spoilt child everytime he didn't get a decision

Which one of those made Suarez go down like he has been shot

For years and years we crucified players like Drogba , Robben , Rooney etc for diving ?! And now some are trying to justify our own player diving

Suarez got his reputation because he dived and because the guy it a total ***** on the pitch.

[Kenny Kan]

He's never been booked for diving.

And I can only recall that dive against Stoke on the weekend, was the only one he's produced this season.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

in the past we had some right characters playing for us, thats why it makes me laugh a bit when liverpool fans get a bit sanctimonious about stoke`s style of play. suarez`s dive is small beer compared to some of the things liverpool players have done in the past.
have a look what happened in the european cup semi final of 1984, look at the everton player geoff nulty who never played again after a particularly fiesty merseyside derby, the greatest CF ever to play in english football (jimmy greaves) has often told the story of being handed a hospital menu by one of our players in the tunnel before a game at anfield. we were never a team of angels.
in the 60`s, 70`s and 80`s we were famous for getting `cheap` pens at the kop end. players were falling down with minimal or even no contact in red shirts before suarez was even born. it was a running joke throughout the league.
we all know diving is wrong and we all want to see it cut out but before everyone rounds on suarez lets not make out he brought gamesmanship to anfield.

[Kenny Kan]

in the past we had some right characters playing for us, thats why it makes me laugh a bit when liverpool fans get a bit sanctimonious about stoke`s style of play. suarez`s dive is small beer compared to some of the things liverpool players have done in the past.
have a look what happened in the european cup semi final of 1984, look at the everton player geoff nulty who never played again after a particularly fiesty merseyside derby, the greatest CF ever to play in english football (jimmy greaves) has often told the story of being handed a hospital menu by one of our players in the tunnel before a game at anfield. we were never a team of angels.
in the 60`s, 70`s and 80`s we were famous for getting `cheap` pens at the kop end. players were falling down with minimal or even no contact in red shirts before suarez was even born. it was a running joke throughout the league.
we all know diving is wrong and we all want to see it cut out but before everyone rounds on suarez lets not make out he brought gamesmanship to anfield.

Back then football was a contact sport.