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[Ola Mr Benitez]

Please, Steven Gerrard doesn't dive anywhere near the amount Suarez does, not even close.. and when he does he does it properly.

I thought before the Stoke game people might start to give Suarez a break as there has been a couple of penalty decisions that he didn't get.  Referees will have seen these decisions he didn't get and start to think maybe he doesn't always dive but now everyone will be on full alert again expecting him to dive.

He needs to pack it in

He is an amazing talent but he does my head in when he flops to the ground.

I know loads of players dive but that doesn't mean he has to, you very rarely see Messi dive. It is going to take ages to turn the opinion around, but he has to start now

[LFC1990]

Luis dive doesnt excuse the referees in past games turning a Blind eye to stonewall penatlies.

[LFC2007]

Suarez’ dive is inexcusable.

Inexcusable is exactly what it is. A degree of frustration is understandable if legit decisions aren't going his way, but that is no defence, no excuse, no justification at all for then attempting to cheat his way to a fairer deal.

I take it you disagree with the rest of the article but found 4 words in the article you did agree with, typical you. 

No, I said a degree of frustration is understandable if legit decisions aren't going his way, a sentiment that is also reflected in the article, except that I expressed it in a way so as not to imply that it constitutes an excuse for an embarrassing dive that has no place in the game. That's what you and some of the other gormless oafs who've commented on the matter don't seem to understand. You can be against Suarez's persistent attempts to con referees and at the same time criticise ref's who fail to give him legitimate calls. There is no conflict between the two positions.

[Boxscarf]

Luis dive doesnt excuse the referees in past games turning a Blind eye to stonewall penatlies.

Do you have conclusive evidence that states that referees are deliberately turning a blind eye to fouls on Suarez?

[Kenny Kan]

Luis dive doesnt excuse the referees in past games turning a Blind eye to stonewall penatlies.

Do you have conclusive evidence that states that referees are deliberately turning a blind eye to fouls on Suarez?

well, even if he doesn't it just goes to show how the standard of reffing is pi$$ poor.

[Kenny Kan]

.       You can be against Suarez's persistent attempts to con referees and at the same time criticise ref's who fail to give him legitimate calls     

But you tie the two up by excusing refs because of his reputation.

[devaney]

Helmdall: Please give me five examples of Gerrard diving during the last 12 months. Not a lot to ask if there is any validity to your accusation. Gerrard used to tackle and dive in a somewhat overly enthusiastic manner but I do not believe that to be the case any longer.Perhaps I'm wrong.The memory is not what it used to be.

Boscarf:As for having  trial by video for every offence in the penalty box we would never get to the pub after the match because we would have missed fkg closing time 

I can't do that but we all know Stevie has a tendency to fall over a bit easy and becuase of his "solid" reputation almost always gets the freekicks in his favour.

At least your honest enough to say you can't answer what should have been a relatively easy question given your somewhat outlandish statement.

If anyone needs proof that referees are ignoring Luis's genuine penalty appeals then they must be a Manc or a bitter or visually impaired!

Reading this sh.it is like listening to a bunch of bitters down the pub. Shame on you lads. Support the team ffs.

[Benny The Noon]

I'm not sure anyone disagree that Suarez doesn't get genuine pen appeals but that doesn't justify when does dive though and doesn't help himself by confirming his "reputation". Suarez dives, he goes down easily and he over exaggerates . It's wrong and it should be stopped - it is the reason why refs think twice about giving him a pen when he goes down in the box - because his previous actions have planted doubt in the minds of the officials ! It's also wrong for them to judge by reputation but it happens and we can't control it ! What we can do is get Suarez to stop diving etc ?! Then refs might not have the doubt in their mind. BR spent all week asking for a fairer deal for Suarez and he ruined that with his dive

[Kharhaz]

Helmdall: Please give me five examples of Gerrard diving during the last 12 months. Not a lot to ask if there is any validity to your accusation. Gerrard used to tackle and dive in a somewhat overly enthusiastic manner but I do not believe that to be the case any longer.Perhaps I'm wrong.The memory is not what it used to be.

Boscarf:As for having  trial by video for every offence in the penalty box we would never get to the pub after the match because we would have missed fkg closing time 

I can't do that but we all know Stevie has a tendency to fall over a bit easy and becuase of his "solid" reputation almost always gets the freekicks in his favour.

At least your honest enough to say you can't answer what should have been a relatively easy question given your somewhat outlandish statement.

If anyone needs proof that referees are ignoring Luis's genuine penalty appeals then they must be a Manc or a bitter or visually impaired!

Reading this sh.it is like listening to a bunch of bitters down the pub. Shame on you lads. Support the team ffs.

Save your breath my friend, the sky generation are taking over. They want millions spent, they want the media on our side, and they want the Liverpool name.

However, they dont want the patience that goes with it.

Liverpool fans are the most knowledgable, we used to be. Now the press are taking control.

Save your breath, on forums the most annoying have the most posts. Save your breath...

[devaney]

I don't remember reading all this negative sh.it about Michael Owen and he was no angel in the penalty box by his own admission: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story ... na?cc=5739

Yes Luis's ironic dive  from his knees out of utter frustration was simply more ammunition for downright fkg hypocrites like Pulis who bragged about Crouch's hand ball goal against City. Some of you whinging so-called supporters also fall into the same category.

[laza]

I don't remember reading all this negative sh.it about Michael Owen and he was no angel in the penalty box by his own admission: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story ... na?cc=5739

Yes Luis's ironic dive  from his knees out of utter frustration was simply more ammunition for downright fkg hypocrites like Pulis who bragged about Crouch's hand ball goal against City. Some of you whinging so-called supporters also fall into the same category.

Laughed when I read that story on couple websites, Owen admits going down easily in box but term diving isn't used in the headline

[Benny The Noon]

I don't remember reading all this negative sh.it about Michael Owen and he was no angel in the penalty box by his own admission: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story ... na?cc=5739

Yes Luis's ironic dive  from his knees out of utter frustration was simply more ammunition for downright fkg hypocrites like Pulis who bragged about Crouch's hand ball goal against City. Some of you whinging so-called supporters also fall into the same category.

Did Suarez dive - Yes

Is it wrong - yes

Why does that make people "so called supporters" because they point that out ?

It's just stating facts

[Thommo's perm]

I don't remember reading all this negative sh.it about Michael Owen and he was no angel in the penalty box by his own admission: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story ... na?cc=5739

Yes Luis's ironic dive  from his knees out of utter frustration was simply more ammunition for downright fkg hypocrites like Pulis who bragged about Crouch's hand ball goal against City. Some of you whinging so-called supporters also fall into the same category.

Did Suarez dive - Yes

Is it wrong - yes

Why does that make people "so called supporters" because they point that out ?

It's just stating facts

Are they the only "facts" involved in this situation?
This is not as simple as you are making out, and you know it...

[Thommo's perm]

I don't remember reading all this negative sh.it about Michael Owen and he was no angel in the penalty box by his own admission: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story ... na?cc=5739

Yes Luis's ironic dive  from his knees out of utter frustration was simply more ammunition for downright fkg hypocrites like Pulis who bragged about Crouch's hand ball goal against City. Some of you whinging so-called supporters also fall into the same category.

Did Suarez dive - Yes

Is it wrong - yes

Why does that make people "so called supporters" because they point that out ?

It's just stating facts

Are they the only "facts" involved in this situation?
This is not as simple as you are making out, and you know it...

[Benny The Noon]

They are the facts involved in every situation Suarez has dived or gone down easily. He has gained a reputation through his own actions and they have given people the opportunity to spread that reputation around. He doesn't get close call decisions because of that reputation - that's wrong - there is no denying that but refs are going to be wary of him. If Suarez hasn't dived on Sunday then the media wouldn't have focused on it .