Liverpool FC Forum

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

well dont isolate the part of a long post where i explain where i come from and where i grew up and say big deal
it looks like you are taking the p1$$ out of me for being a scouser, we get enough of that from the rest of the country we dont need it from somewhere thats supposed to be our f**king spiritual home.

Are you serious?

i write a big long post about the history of this club since 1990 and you isolate the lines where i say i`m from liverpool and i grew up near the ground and you write `big deal`
wtf am i supposed to think that means?

[tonyeh]

We beat Barce in a different season that we beat Madrid.

We also stuffed Inter in a different season as well.

We were solid defensively under Rafa but we also scored a lot of goals with both Gerrard and Torres having their best scoring seasons under Rafa plus also Croucg and Yossi had their best scoring seasons under Rafa. Twice we were the top scorers in the CL.

That's not the point Benny and you know it.

Under Benitez we had a decent half season where we played exceptional football and looked every part the team we should have had been for years. Off went the usual benitez reins and the team were actually allowed to play expressive attacking football that had been absent for the rest of Benitez's tenure.

I believed that he had turned a corner genuinely, but my hopes were dashed soon after and it was back to the same old, same old.

I have absolutely no reason to believe that if he came back that the situation would be any different.

No reason whatsoever.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

We beat Barce in a different season that we beat Madrid.

We also stuffed Inter in a different season as well.

We were solid defensively under Rafa but we also scored a lot of goals with both Gerrard and Torres having their best scoring seasons under Rafa plus also Croucg and Yossi had their best scoring seasons under Rafa. Twice we were the top scorers in the CL.

That's not the point Benny and you know it.

Under Benitez we had a decent half season where we played exceptional football and looked every part the team we should have had been for years. Off went the usual benitez reins and the team were actually allowed to play expressive attacking football that had been absent for the rest of Benitez's tenure.

I believed that he had turned a corner genuinely, but my hopes were dashed soon after and it was back to the same old, same old.

I have absolutely no reason to believe that if he came back that the situation would be any different.

No reason whatsoever.

he was up against 2 of the richest and most powerful clubs in the world at that point, and arsenal had a great side too.
considering what he inherited he did an unbelievable job to even have us in the mix.
he had us punching way above our weight but some people want even more.
we were pipped to the title by a united side containing rooney, tevez and ronaldo, we beat that side 4-1 at their own gaff.

[tonyeh]

well dont isolate the part of a long post where i explain where i come from and where i grew up and say big deal
it looks like you are taking the p1$$ out of me for being a scouser, we get enough of that from the rest of the country we dont need it from somewhere thats supposed to be our f**king spiritual home.

Are you serious?

i write a big long post about the history of this club since 1990 and you isolate the lines where i say i`m from liverpool and i grew up near the ground and you write `big deal`
wtf am i supposed to think that means?

"i was sitting in the stadium during that time lad not in dublin."

The likes of the above is the "big deal". Utterly meaningless and you say that I'm trying to take the ***** out of you.   

"i`m proud of where i come from, you wont see me supporting a team from 200 miles away"

Bully for you, but statements like 'you wont see me supporting a team from 200 miles away' aren't going to win your argument any support. You should take some time and have a look at the forum and see where some of the members are from and think twice before posting such things.

[Benny The Noon]

We beat Barce in a different season that we beat Madrid.

We also stuffed Inter in a different season as well.

We were solid defensively under Rafa but we also scored a lot of goals with both Gerrard and Torres having their best scoring seasons under Rafa plus also Croucg and Yossi had their best scoring seasons under Rafa. Twice we were the top scorers in the CL.

That's not the point Benny and you know it.

Under Benitez we had a decent half season where we played exceptional football and looked every part the team we should have had been for years. Off went the usual benitez reins and the team were actually allowed to play expressive attacking football that had been absent for the rest of Benitez's tenure.

I believed that he had turned a corner genuinely, but my hopes were dashed soon after and it was back to the same old, same old.

I have absolutely no reason to believe that if he came back that the situation would be any different.

No reason whatsoever.

We had a lot more than just one half of decent football - come on don't try and change history

You don't get into the top 4 constantly , into finals and semi finals of the CL consistently over a 5 year period with just one half decent season.

Rafa had one bad season the last one - before that it was the best we had seen for 20 odd years.

[tonyeh]

We beat Barce in a different season that we beat Madrid.

We also stuffed Inter in a different season as well.

We were solid defensively under Rafa but we also scored a lot of goals with both Gerrard and Torres having their best scoring seasons under Rafa plus also Croucg and Yossi had their best scoring seasons under Rafa. Twice we were the top scorers in the CL.

That's not the point Benny and you know it.

Under Benitez we had a decent half season where we played exceptional football and looked every part the team we should have had been for years. Off went the usual benitez reins and the team were actually allowed to play expressive attacking football that had been absent for the rest of Benitez's tenure.

I believed that he had turned a corner genuinely, but my hopes were dashed soon after and it was back to the same old, same old.

I have absolutely no reason to believe that if he came back that the situation would be any different.

No reason whatsoever.

he was up against 2 of the richest and most powerful clubs in the world at that point, and arsenal had a great side too.
considering what he inherited he did an unbelievable job to even have us in the mix.
he had us punching way above our weight but some people want even more.
we were pipped to the title by a united side containing rooney, tevez and ronaldo, we beat that side 4-1 at their own gaff.

But we couldn't score against Stoke or Villa, West Ham or Fulham. Couldn't beat Hull or Wigan.

That's where we blew it.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

"i was sitting in the stadium during that time lad not in dublin."

The likes of the above is the "big deal". Utterly meaningless and you say that I'm trying to take the ***** out of you.   ???

"i`m proud of where i come from, you wont see me supporting a team from 200 miles away"

Bully for you, but statements like 'you wont see me supporting a team from 200 miles away' aren't going to win your argument any support. You should take some time and have a look at the forum and see where some of the members are from and think twice before posting such things.

you should have just left that line in then, you included the line where i explained where i came from as well, if you would have just left the line about dublin in i probably would of said to myself `i probably deserved that`.
scousers are proud of where we come from, it`s our sore point.

[tonyeh]

"i was sitting in the stadium during that time lad not in dublin."

The likes of the above is the "big deal". Utterly meaningless and you say that I'm trying to take the ***** out of you.   ???

"i`m proud of where i come from, you wont see me supporting a team from 200 miles away"

Bully for you, but statements like 'you wont see me supporting a team from 200 miles away' aren't going to win your argument any support. You should take some time and have a look at the forum and see where some of the members are from and think twice before posting such things.

you should have just left that line in then, you included the line where i explained where i came from as well, if you would have just left the line about dublin in i probably would of said to myself `i probably deserved that`.
scousers are proud of where we come from, it`s our sore point.

And Scousers damn well ought to be proud of where they come from. A great city and great people...even the bluenoses   

Listen, no offence intended. Tensions are high. I've been knocked for six by the crappy news this week.

[Benny The Noon]

It's awful news and it's worse seeing some continue to slate the guy and carry on sticking the knife in to try and justify their opinion that we are better off without Kenny.

The last two days have been a massive hammer blow to my faith in the game and the club I have loved and supported for over 30 years now

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

"i was sitting in the stadium during that time lad not in dublin."

The likes of the above is the "big deal". Utterly meaningless and you say that I'm trying to take the ***** out of you.   ???

"i`m proud of where i come from, you wont see me supporting a team from 200 miles away"

Bully for you, but statements like 'you wont see me supporting a team from 200 miles away' aren't going to win your argument any support. You should take some time and have a look at the forum and see where some of the members are from and think twice before posting such things.

you should have just left that line in then, you included the line where i explained where i came from as well, if you would have just left the line about dublin in i probably would of said to myself `i probably deserved that`.
scousers are proud of where we come from, it`s our sore point.

And Scousers damn well ought to be proud of where they come from. A great city and great people...even the bluenoses   :oh:

Listen, no offence intended. Tensions are high. I've been knocked for six by the crappy news this week.

nah, i`ve just read it back, i made the first snide remark, it`s me who should be apologising.
my heads wrecked with whats happened at the club mate, i apologise.

[Benny The Noon]

This will ***** Lakes off



Rafa twist: Liverpool HAVE now approached former boss about return




Rodgers snub leads Reds chiefs to make contact with the Champions League winner - but would he work with a director of football?





Rafa Benitez has been approached by Liverpool as their search for a new boss took another twist.

[url="http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/swansea-boss-brendan-rodgers-rejects-838581"]After being snubbed by Swansea’s Brendan Rodgers on Friday[/url], Liverpool have continued[url="http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-will-get-any-manager-we-go-837380"]their hunt for Kenny Dalglish’s successor[/url] by speaking to their former manager.

The Spaniard left Anfield in 2010 before Fenway Sports Group bought Liverpool and they are impressed by his CV.

Benitez has been itching to return since quitting Inter Milan 18 months ago and has long hoped to take over from Dalglish.

He feels he has unfinished business, because of the way his six-year reign ended unhappily in June 2010 after Liverpool finished seventh in the Premier League.

The Champions League-winning boss has been plotting a return from his home on the Wirral and has kept in touch with Kop fans groups, who would welcome him back.





But it is unclear how serious FSG are about Benitez, because they have identified so many candidates and already [url="http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-granted-permission-to-speak-to-wigan-837912"]have permission to speak to Wigan boss Roberto Martinez[/url].

Benitez, 52, may also have reservations about having to work with a director of football as he had established total control on the playing side by the time he left Anfield.
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[Benny The Noon]

This will ***** Lakes off



Rafa twist: Liverpool HAVE now approached former boss about return




Rodgers snub leads Reds chiefs to make contact with the Champions League winner - but would he work with a director of football?





Rafa Benitez has been approached by Liverpool as their search for a new boss took another twist.
After being snubbed by Swansea’s Brendan Rodgers on Friday, Liverpool have continued their hunt for Kenny Dalglish’s successor by speaking to their former manager.

The Spaniard left Anfield in 2010 before Fenway Sports Group bought Liverpool and they are impressed by his CV.

Benitez has been itching to return since quitting Inter Milan 18 months ago and has long hoped to take over from Dalglish.

He feels he has unfinished business, because of the way his six-year reign ended unhappily in June 2010 after Liverpool finished seventh in the Premier League.

The Champions League-winning boss has been plotting a return from his home on the Wirral and has kept in touch with Kop fans groups, who would welcome him back.





But it is unclear how serious FSG are about Benitez, because they have identified so many candidates and already have permission to speak to Wigan boss Roberto Martinez

Benitez, 52, may also have reservations about having to work with a director of football as he had established total control on the playing side by the time he left Anfield.

[red till i die!!]

What has John Henry heard that the rest of us aren't aware of that makes him think Martinez is the guy who can get us back into the champions league.

the fact that they are even considering him proves that they know fook all.
he is a yes man that will fit into there new structure for a couple of years and try to build something in the process and then in a couple of years when we have a stadium and extra revenue then he will be replaced with someone else to finish the job.
they are only bothered about this club following the money to the cl and if league performances are the precedent that they have set then i cant see why they think this man is right for the job.

Sorry but on what basis are you claiming that Martinez is a yes man. I agree he is inexperienced and he isn't my no1 choice but I don't understand the need to slag him off. He's done a very good job at Wigan and have them playing very well, certiainly towards the end of the season.

Also why do you think FSG want a yes man, I'm not aware of any major arguments between FSG and kenny, although they would have been more than entitled to after the ***** up that was the Suarez affair.

no one is slagging him off or calling him names or slandering the lad,just merely pointing out that he isnt good enough at this time to take this job and because of his inexperience he shouldnt even be considered.
im implying he is a yes man because of his manner as he dosent strike me as a guy who will let fly when things arent going so good or indeed go head to head with a dof or the owners if he has to.he's a guy that will sit down with the players after a hammering and tell them we were unlucky and we will try to do better next time,not put the fear of god into them.if he had a bit of fire in the old belly then maybe his team wouldnt have been constantly fighting relegation every year.
if he had them playing well then how is it that they almost got relegated then? and not for the first time either.
dont try and tell me that small clubs like swansea or norwich have vastly more experienced teams built on bigger budgets and yet they played well all season and fully deserved the positions they finished in.
they have managers with a bit o fire in the old belly and get the best out of the players they have.martinez got the best out of his players in the last 7 games or so but wtf was he at with them for the rest of the season.
if fsg want 2 dof's and the new manager to be more like a head coach who works with the players that he is given by the dof then its a yes man they want.not a manager like capello,benitez,mourinho,van gaal or a hiddink who will want more control and money and will go head to head to get it.
the pressure on a manager and players at a club like wigan is miniscule compared to what its like at liverpool and it could well damage the man if he was to take this job and couldnt deliver and it could very well rule him out of the big jobs in future.
he should go to a club like villa who will have a better set up to work with and then he might earn the right for a chance to manage a big club,a couple of years staving off relegation by the skin of your teeth hardly qualifies you to manage liverpool.

[Roger Red Hat]

Rafa lad, ditch the fuking issues with total control and dof's, take the job and manage the team. Let the powers behind you sort the rest of the sh!te out. You get the team playing, spend some of fsg money cos it's there, they're fuking loaded, get this club back into top  4 and back into the cl and then knock that fergie cu.nt off his perch. Do it, you know it makes sense

[Kukilon]

Rafa lad, ditch the fuking issues with total control and dof's, take the job and manage the team. Let the powers behind you sort the rest of the sh!te out. You get the team playing, spend some of fsg money cos it's there, they're fuking loaded, get this club back into top  4 and back into the cl and then knock that fergie cu.nt off his perch. Do it, you know it makes sense

I doubt he would do it but I totally agree with you. Please also keep the rotation down a little.