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by **ICE-MAN** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:26 am

I think we have more than enough central midfield roles, i reckon Kenny will groom Spearing to play there like Masch did!

As for Mata, hes a class act but hes not a proper winger, hes more of a midfielder that drifts inside from the wing, kinda like Luis Garcia, Mata is not gonna get to the by-line and whip crosses in! Hes more of the Joe Cole / Maxi type of wide player, albeit ten times better!

Stewart Downing would be a great signing in my opinion, maybe if he wore more coloured boots people would think hes a bit more flash!! He is the type of player we need, will get to the end line and get crosses in, and can play on either wing! Fully established in the premier league, knows every team inside out and would hit the ground running which is massively important this season to build momentum early on!! I would have preferred Ashley Young but Downing is a very able replacement!

Also wouldnt be too upset if we got NZogbia as well, why not, Downing and NZogbia running at full backs on either side of the pitch :cool:

by **stmichael** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:29 am

Roger Red Hat wrote:
Waldo wrote:Going to throw this one out there and expect many will ridicule me for it.

Owen Hargreaves is claiming to be fully fit and is posting daily video's on You Tube to prove that. An option to bing in on a pay as you play basis. Someone who would offer a bit of experience in the defensive MF role? Can hardly be classed a die hard MUFC man as he only played a handful of games for them.

Doesn't necessarily fit with the Fenway Sports way of thinking but on a pay as you play basis he may offer decent cover. Gives him a chance to prove himself as well so maybe a win win??

how old is he?

he's only 30, which is weird because he seems to have been around for about 15 years

by **roberto green** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:34 am

Downing is a very ordinary player I hope we don't go any higher in the bidding and switch our attention else where, Some people are saying well he was there player of the season but that's all it was was one season in a very average team, I suppose in away it reflects Lucas with us and there no rush for him, I also remember us signing Middlesbrough's player of the season 5 years ago in Bolo Zenden and a fat load of good he was

by **ethanr** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:38 am

stmichael wrote:£15m was never going to be enough for downing when the likes of henderson and jones have moved for more. he's 27 an approaching his peak so considering villa paid £12m for him they were always going to try and maximise their return on the player. downing is an established england international at the end of the day. on the price, along with every other signing, nobody will even mention the price in a years time if he does the business on the pitch. good point about the comparison with modric aswell in terms of productivity. people don't like downing because he isn't flash like certain other players. however he's rarely injured (he played all 38 games for villa last season) and can put a ball on a sixpence for the likes of carroll which is exactly what we need. he's also incredibly versatile and can play down the right or even central midfield if needed.

the deal will be done in the next few days and i'm right behind it. i suspect we'll be looking at £20m.

This is actually exactly how I've felt. Let's just get him and get it over with. We aren't trying to work Villa for all they've got, when you buy a player and he does better than he did before, you usually turn a profit... Villa should expect the same.

Still hoping we can get a deal for Mata, tho if we do I would expect a 4-3-3 to be played.

by **stmichael** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:44 am

roberto green wrote:Some people are saying well he was there player of the season but that's all it was was one season in a very average team

surely that says more about the player and his abilities?

7 goals and 9 assists from midfield isn't bad at all in a "struggling team" as you say. kuyt, mereiles and suarez had 8, 8 and 7 assists respectively in a better side.

by **Johnny Boy** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:48 am

haps wrote:Definitely Mata the better option to Downing, if we can get him. I am going to be patient this transfer window. There are far better people, a better structure and more money involved this year. I like how we're operating. We'll get some quality. Have no doubt we'll be back in the CL places next year with Arsenal on a bit of a slide and Utd having their worst season since the PL began.

I agree Mata looks a good player but we can't compare him to Downing as he isn't a winger.

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:50 am

i rather see us spend the money on N'Zogbia and Figueroa then use it on a very average Downing.

by **only me** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:53 am

Nasri leaving to City...Johnson on his way to Liverpool??? i wish

by **Johnny Boy** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:54 am

You could get N'Zogbia and Adam for the price of Downing.

by **roberto green** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:57 am

stmichael wrote:
roberto green wrote:Some people are saying well he was there player of the season but that's all it was was one season in a very average team

surely that says more about the player and his abilities?

7 goals and 9 assists from midfield isn't bad at all in a "struggling team" as you say. kuyt, mereiles and suarez had 8, 8 and 7 assists respectively in a better side.

Ok you've convinced me..............

NOT, Still a very average player to me but that's m.o

by **roberto green** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:59 am

only me wrote:Nasri leaving to City...Johnson on his way to Liverpool??? i wish

This I want to happen.Now there's a player.

by **Johnny Boy** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:03 am

SportingLife report Dann maybe close to going to Stoke, if we are interested in him that would be unbelievable losing out to them.

by **stmichael** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:04 am

apparently villa want £19m. if that's the case then he's essentially cost us £3m more than ashley young cost united when young only had 1 year left on his contract. downing has 2 years left.

by **Johnny Boy** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:10 am

stmichael wrote:apparently villa want £19m. if that's the case then he's essentially cost us £3m more than ashley young cost united when young only had 1 year left on his contract. downing has 2 years left.

I think we will get him and then Villa will get N'Zogbia.

I would prefer we went for him instead, as I said earlier we could get Adam and N'Zogbia for the price of Downing.

by **Roger Red Hat** » Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:14 am

only me wrote:Nasri leaving to City...Johnson on his way to Liverpool??? i wish

I've tried to get hold of Johno but he's disappeared off the planet recently, which obviously means he's at Melwood NOW having a medical or he might be on holiday still so I've done the next best thing...

...emailed his Ma. :laugh:

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