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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:23 am

Incredibly sad news the other day about Ray Kennedy, I grew up watching him and he really was a phenomenal player, he was part of arguably the greatest midfield to ever grace English football, a midfield which broke all records under the old 2 points for a win system and who's achievements will live on for eternity, frozen in time forever. Just 16 goals conceded in a 42 game season including just 4 in 21 home games - and one of those was an own goal!
As a young target man type CF Ray won the double with Arsenal back in the days when doubles happened twice a century and when he came to us Bob Paisley saw his wand of a left foot and converted him into a cultured left sided midfielder, he was very classy and elegant on the ball but his old CF instincts never left him so he was always weighing in with goals and big goals at that.
He scored in that legendary comeback against St Ettiene in 77, speaking of legendary comebacks and historical games Ray also scored in that Wolves game in 76 where it looked like we'd fallen at the final hurdle and blown the title but scored 3 in the last 10 minutes to snatch glorious victory out of the jaws of heartbreaking defeat, he also scored in that legendary semi final in 81 against Bayern Munich when everyone had written us off and he scored in the 78 semi against Borussia Monchengladbach who we beat in the final the year before. Ray was just big time, when the going got tough and the chips were down that's when he was often at his best.
Kennedy, Case, McDermott and Souness -  a murderers row of a midfield which could pass or kick any team in Europe off the park, they just left it up to the opposition, which ever way they wanted to play it was fine by us, if they wanted a war by god they got one, if they wanted a masterclass in the art of pass and move football they got one of those too (just look at Terry Mac's goal against Spurs in the 7-1 to see what they could do).
Rest in peace you utter legend and thanks for making growing up in Liverpool in the 70's an absolute privilege. You can keep your picturesque little villages and dreaming spires, thanks to the likes of Ray i wouldn't have swapped those dirty old streets for anything, as I say it was a privilege.
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Postby Reg » Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:50 am

Well said Yakka and I echo your sentiments. The football LFC played back in Ray's day was as skilfull under the circumstances as the footy LFC play today. Ray was a beautifully graceful, elegant and wonderful player who oozed class. RIP big fella.
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Dec 24, 2021 12:15 pm

Anyone else getting fed up with all this constant bleating from managers and players about how tough the Xmas schedule is? They are amongst the most pampered individuals on earth, they don't even change their own lightbulbs, clubs don't want players standing on chairs or step-ladders so someone comes out to even do that for them. Just get on with it and stop your whinging ffs.
The schedule has been that way for 130 years, in fact it used to be worse, games used to be back to back. They go on about player welfare and players being shattered but I bet if a proper winter break is introduced they'll be halfway around the world playing lucrative friendlies against Barca or Real Madrid in Shanghai or San Francisco or somewhere before you can say Jack Robinson.
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Postby damjan193 » Fri Dec 24, 2021 2:06 pm

Jurgen has slightly changed his tune recently, he's complaining is more down to the fact that they have to play games only 48 hours apart or less while it can easily be arranged for the games to be played at least 72 hours apart and if it were like that then there would be no problem. Which is sort of a fair point because the performances drop in quality and thus we are more likely to drop points, while teams like Man City would have a far greater advantage with their enormous squads. In this I can say I support him.

On the other hand, just read the other day about how Henderson thinks nobody cares about player wellbeing and that people would have to "experience it first hand" in order to know how tough it is. Man, has he ever experienced how tough ACTUAL WORK is, a job that you have to work for your entire life and get paid to barely survive the month? Does anyone care about the wellbeing of those people (us, his fans)? He's in such a privileged position in life that most people would kill for, and he has the audacity to complain about his "wellbeing"? I mean, I love the guy as a player and our captain, but sometimes when I'm watching a game, feeling excited or nervous if we're not winning, sometimes in those moments I remember stuff like this Hendo complaining and I think to myself, what the hell am I so emotional about? A bunch of whiny millioners that have little to no connection to reality kicking a ball around? And that feeling just sucks the pleasure out of watching this game and supporting this team.
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Dec 24, 2021 5:14 pm

damjan193 » Fri Dec 24, 2021 1:06 pm wrote:Jurgen has slightly changed his tune recently, he's complaining is more down to the fact that they have to play games only 48 hours apart or less while it can easily be arranged for the games to be played at least 72 hours apart and if it were like that then there would be no problem. Which is sort of a fair point because the performances drop in quality and thus we are more likely to drop points, while teams like Man City would have a far greater advantage with their enormous squads. In this I can say I support him.

On the other hand, just read the other day about how Henderson thinks nobody cares about player wellbeing and that they'd have to "experience it first hand" in order to know how tough it is. Man, has he ever experienced how tough ACTUAL WORK is, a job that you have to work for your entire life and get paid to barely survive the month? Does anyone care about the wellbeing of those people (us, his fans)? He's in such a privileged position in life that most people would kill for, and he has the audacity to complain about his "wellbeing"? I mean, I love the guy as a player and our captain, but sometimes when I'm watching a game, feeling excited or nervous if we're not winning, sometimes in those moments I remember stuff like this Hendo complaining and I think to myself, what the hell am I so emotional about? A bunch of whiny millioners that have little to no connection to reality kicking a ball around? And that feeling just sucks the pleasure out of watching this game and supporting this team.


Yeah exactly mate, player welfare? If they get injured or sick they'll have the best doctors and specialists at their beck and call with a click of their fingers, no queuing on the phone for hours for them at 8 o clock in the morning trying to book a doctors appointment for a fortnight's time (if you are lucky). No statutory sick pay for them either, they still get paid hundreds of thousands of pounds a week no matter what.
Every time I turn Sky Sports News on lately it's either Conte or Guardiola or someone else whinging about how tough they have it, they are like a broken record, these people are so far removed from the reality ordinary people have to face every day that they actually think they have it tough. Guardiola was even talking about players going out on strike!
If they think it's so bad why don't they retire, in that game in the top flight you have the money to retire when you're about 22 where as the rest of us pretty much have to work until we are too old and decrepit to continue.
That's all you want to listen to at Christmas though isn't it? multi-millionaires whinging about multi-millionaire's problems. Christmas is a tough (and very often lonely) time for a lot of people, out in the real world there's people living in cardboard boxes in shop doorways and kids going without presents having to listen to this lot whinging about the "inhumanity" of having to play 2 games of football in 3 days. It's embarrassing.
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Postby kazza » Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:12 am

damjan193 » Fri Dec 24, 2021 1:06 pm wrote:Jurgen has slightly changed his tune recently, he's complaining is more down to the fact that they have to play games only 48 hours apart or less while it can easily be arranged for the games to be played at least 72 hours apart and if it were like that then there would be no problem. Which is sort of a fair point because the performances drop in quality and thus we are more likely to drop points, while teams like Man City would have a far greater advantage with their enormous squads. In this I can say I support him.

On the other hand, just read the other day about how Henderson thinks nobody cares about player wellbeing and that people would have to "experience it first hand" in order to know how tough it is. Man, has he ever experienced how tough ACTUAL WORK is, a job that you have to work for your entire life and get paid to barely survive the month? Does anyone care about the wellbeing of those people (us, his fans)? He's in such a privileged position in life that most people would kill for, and he has the audacity to complain about his "wellbeing"? I mean, I love the guy as a player and our captain, but sometimes when I'm watching a game, feeling excited or nervous if we're not winning, sometimes in those moments I remember stuff like this Hendo complaining and I think to myself, what the hell am I so emotional about? A bunch of whiny millioners that have little to no connection to reality kicking a ball around? And that feeling just sucks the pleasure out of watching this game and supporting this team.

On the first point I’d like to add that Klopps point was play after 72 hours and the reason why not is to have more games spread out for viewers( money basically), more viewers per game if they are spread out. Meaning the player’s welfare is being sacrificed for money, which I would respond to it’s the viewers that make this whole thing (the money, fame, houses, sports cars, hot women) happen so suck it up a little, when they are injures they don’t play anyway so what is the problem with welfare exactly.
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sat Dec 25, 2021 12:24 pm

Merry Christmas everyone btw.
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Postby kazza » Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:17 pm

Klopp confident of replacing key Liverpool duo, €10m transfer emerging as realistic option

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Klopp confident of replacing key Liverpool duo, €10m transfer emerging
Liverpool manager Jurgen Klopp is reportedly confident of signing a new attacking player in the January transfer window.

The Reds are set to lose both Mohamed Salah and Sadio Mane for the Africa Cup of Nations, and there’s no doubt many of the club’s fans will be desperate to see a signing come in to help deal with that major blow.


According to El Nacional, Liverpool could try making a €10million offer for Barcelona misfit Ousmane Dembele, with the France international perhaps set to be available on the cheap this winter due to being out of contract at the end of the season.

The report suggests Klopp is confident of bringing someone in in that position, and it seems that Dembele is emerging as a realistic option for Liverpool.

Some fans may have their reservations about Dembele, who has been inconsistent for much of his time at Barcelona, though he earned the reputation as one of Europe’s most exciting young players during his time at former club Borussia Dortmund.


The report suggests Klopp is confident of bringing someone in in that position, and it seems that Dembele is emerging as a realistic option for Liverpool.


There’s surely still time for Dembele to turn his career around, and the 24-year-old may well find that his playing style is a better fit for Klopp’s tactical set-up.

In truth, even if Dembele isn’t the perfect long-term option for LFC, if he could move to Anfield on the cheap and give Klopp cover for Salah and Mane for a few weeks, this would surely go down as a decent piece of business.

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If true I’d happily take him for 10-20million. It seems like a money ball signing so it may have legs.
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Postby Reg » Tue Jan 04, 2022 11:32 am

At that price every desparate EPL side would form a queue! Arsenal, Leicester, Utd, Leeds, Newcastle  etc..
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Postby kazza » Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:11 pm

Reg » Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:32 am wrote:At that price every desparate EPL side would form a queue! Arsenal, Leicester, Utd, Leeds, Newcastle  etc..

Since he’s cheap the difference will be in his salary
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Postby UvS xR4GEx » Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:55 pm

The Echo are reporting that Barcelona are front runners to sign Naby Keita as Klopp looks set to Axe him in the summer.

Not sure if they want him now or in the summer but the fee is believed to be around £25m.

I've read that they need to free up some money to be able to register Feran Torres as they can't afford his wages.. so I'm guessing that's why they're trying to sell Dembele as he won't sign a new contract.

Also they're trying to sign Haaland.. no wonder that clubs in the mess it's in.
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Postby Reg » Tue Jan 04, 2022 2:57 pm

It's difficult to take anyone from Barca as they're all over paid. Mr Dembele's on £16,779,680 a year or £322,686 a week (before bonuses?) which would make Liverpool's highest paid player. He isn't that good.
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Postby Eagle » Tue Jan 04, 2022 3:37 pm

Sounds like there have been further Covid cases amongst players and staff and we're unsure if we can go ahead with the LC game on Thursday and the FA Cup game on Sunday. Not much space in the calendar to reschedule all these games so we might have to forfeit the LC.
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Postby red till i die!! » Tue Jan 04, 2022 5:54 pm

Jaysus I'd hope we steer clear of that Dembele lad. He is constantly injured and it would be worse in the prem given the physicality and pace of it and that's not even taking into account the demands put on them playing for Klopp.  Ox never improved his injury record, neither did Sturridge and even Thiago is a worry so the last thing we need is another gamble with the odds stacked against us. I just can't see us getting the value off him that the fee, wages and profile would command.
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Postby red till i die!! » Tue Jan 04, 2022 5:57 pm

Reg » Tue Jan 04, 2022 2:57 pm wrote:It's difficult to take anyone from Barca as they're all over paid. Mr Dembele's on £16,779,680 a year or £322,686 a week (before bonuses?) which would make Liverpool's highest paid player. He isn't that good.


No way he will be getting that here  :laugh:

How you getting on with the Covid mate. Got it myself back in November and thankfully mild enough. Felt like a man cold for a few days . Lost the taste and smell as well and that is just starting to come right now.
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