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Boocity » Sat May 17, 2014 7:51 am wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sat May 17, 2014 7:40 am wrote:

cardiff-red » Sat May 17, 2014 7:00 am wrote:Tony Barrett (The Times) says we've lined up a move for Xherdan Shaqiri because an 'impasse' has developed over Southampton's £25m valuation of Lallana.

Here we go again, happens every time, one of these days we might actually be able to complete a deal without pi$$ing off the selling club.

Why should we let Southampton take the p1ss out of us just cos he's English, £25m is too much

Missing out on the likes of Konoplyanka probably cost us the title this year, we ran out of steam and had no one in the squad to freshen up the team. We can't keep missing out on our targets if we want to realistically compete with the likes of City, Chelsea, Arsenal and United in the long run.
Wether we like it or not the top teams across Europe are now throwing £50m+ at players like Ronaldo, Bale, Falcao, Cavani etc, even the likes of Fernandinho, Mata and Ozil went for fee's north of £30m, that's just the way the top teams roll these days.
We are not going to finish in the top two every year, let's not waste this opportunity we have of being able to attract top players by haggling over a few million quid. Plus I'd rather 'waste' that extra few million on a player that can potentially nail down a place in the starting XI than fritter it away on Alberto's, Aspas's, Cissokho's, Moses's, Assaidi's and Borini's.
We get the pi$$ taken out of us all the time but because the fee's are below £10m you seem to think that's acceptible, well those £10m add up. If we are going to get ripped off at least let's get ripped off signing a good player.

Just because other clubs spent 30m++ on players doesn't mean we have to do the same to get quality. Using the reported fee for Lallana, we could go for Reus, Shaqiri, Dzagoev, Xhaka, Tello, Pedro, Eriksen and Kovacic for less or similar. And compared to Lallana, these guys have ECL experience. Don't forget that Southampton are due to pay 25% of the fee to Bournemouth hence I won't be surprised if the former wants more to make up for that.

maypaxvobiscum » Sat May 17, 2014 11:39 am wrote:Just because other clubs spent 30m++ on players doesn't mean we have to do the same to get quality. Using the reported fee for Lallana, we could go for Reus, Shaqiri, Dzagoev, Xhaka, Tello, Pedro, Eriksen and Kovacic for less or similar. And compared to Lallana, these guys have ECL experience. Don't forget that Southampton are due to pay 25% of the fee to Bournemouth hence I won't be surprised if the former wants more to make up for that.

I don't care who we buy just as long as we don't go down the usual route where we fail to land our main targets (because of haggling over money) and end up buying a load of cheap potential.
I want to see first team players here, whatever they cost.

SouthCoastShankly » Sat May 17, 2014 9:04 am wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sat May 17, 2014 7:40 am wrote:

cardiff-red » Sat May 17, 2014 7:00 am wrote:Tony Barrett (The Times) says we've lined up a move for Xherdan Shaqiri because an 'impasse' has developed over Southampton's £25m valuation of Lallana.

Here we go again, happens every time, one of these days we might actually be able to complete a deal without pi$$ing off the selling club.

yeah let's keep agreeing to a higher price to appease the selling club.

Either a player is worth your valuation or he isn't. If the club hit a valuation cap, we shouldn't be overpaying just to sign a player.

We have started our transfer process as early as possible this year. If the Lallana deal doesn't work out we have plenty of time to make another happen.

I agree with this but Yakka has a very good point too. I understand that the club doesn't want to get ripped off, it happened once and it was pretty bad. But being so reluctant to spend money is a dangerous game. While we're being tight with our money, other clubs have no problem spending a bit over the odds for the player that they think that they need. Also, if we stall for so long, we might see either the club pulling out of the deal, like with Konoplyanka, or our targer being singed by another club, like with Salah. Ultimately, if we play like this, there's a good possibility that our rivals will strengthen, while we get left behind. If you're a top club, or want to be one, you have to spend money.

It would be a fantastic piece of business if we can actually get a player of similar quality for less money. However, we have a weak history of succeeding at this, so I know where Yakka is coming from.

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maypaxvobiscum » Sat May 17, 2014 3:39 am wrote:Just because other clubs spent 30m++ on players doesn't mean we have to do the same to get quality. Using the reported fee for Lallana, we could go for Reus, Shaqiri, Dzagoev, Xhaka, Tello, Pedro, Eriksen and Kovacic for less or similar. And compared to Lallana, these guys have ECL experience. Don't forget that Southampton are due to pay 25% of the fee to Bournemouth hence I won't be surprised if the former wants more to make up for that.

Reus has a 35 million euro buyout clause, and if Lallan is more than £25 million there's not reason we shouldn't pay the same price for Reus, who I'd much rather have. Reus is somebody we should really look at as he's much younger, and I think better than Lallana, and even if Lallana is £20 million, I'd rather pay a bit more for Reus if he'd coming. 

Shaqiri would be great for 10 as well.

Not watched a great amount of Reus myself tbh, but everything i have read has been very positive

I am a massive fan of Shaqiri, i have been wanting us to sign him for past 3 years and would love to see him join us, i am 40 years old and would deffo get his name on my next shirt 

Enough with the Reus nonsense. He is one of the best young players in Europe and no one in their right mind would rather go for Lallana if Reus was available for similar money. He probably doesn't want to leave Dortmund and Dortmund doesn't want to sell him.

damjan193 » Sat May 17, 2014 7:21 pm wrote:Enough with the Reus nonsense. He is one of the best young players in Europe and no one in their right mind would rather go for Lallana if Reus was available for similar money. He probably doesn't want to leave Dortmund and Dortmund doesn't want to sell him.

I read in the paper the other day that he upset some people at Dortmund by refusing to comit himself to the club in an interview at their end of season party. Apparently he fancies the idea of going to United.

Can see Reus ending up at Utd. Van Gaal is a big draw and can see players wanting to sign up even though they are not in the CL. To be honest, can see Utd being spending big this summer and being right back up there next year what with no European games to deal with.

damjan193 » Sat May 17, 2014 7:21 pm wrote:Enough with the Reus nonsense. He is one of the best young players in Europe and no one in their right mind would rather go for Lallana if Reus was available for similar money. He probably doesn't want to leave Dortmund and Dortmund doesn't want to sell him.

f*ck off. This is the rumour mill and we're entitled to discuss whoever the f*ck we want.

And no one in their right mind would spend 35m on Andy Carroll either. And unless you know Reus personally, which you don't, you can't comment on what he wants and what he doesn't want.

Reports from the German newspaper, Bild, that the Emre Can deal has ben agreed by both Liverpool & Bayer Leverkusen in the region of £10m

Anyone seem him play? How good is this guy?

I would rather the club spend the right money to buy players who can strengthen us rather than to spend the £10mil on unknown quality who won't make the grade. We have wasted far too much money on the likes of Aspas, Borini etc etc. Money in the bank is not going to help us in the long run because we have to built from a position of strength.

If the manager have identify key players to get, go grab them if it's going to cost a few million more rather than to choose a "substitute" or letting our rivals nicked them before our eyes. After all it's not like we haven't got our balls squeeze for the likes of Carroll, Adams & Downing before. I think we have to get the priority signings absolutely nailed on this window so we could start building.

Has he signed for us yet? If not, then why the f uck is discussion even in this section of the forum?

Some reports saying we are in for Alexis Sanchez and Lovren...

maguskwt » Sun May 18, 2014 5:45 am wrote:Some reports saying we are in for Alexis Sanchez and Lovren...

Not keen on that Lovren, I remember watching the Spurs v Southampton game last season and he was awful, I know anyone can have a bad game but still, I'm not convinced. I don't think he's any better than the CB's we already have at the club.
I think if you brought in a genuine holding midfielder and a pair of fullbacks (that actually block crosses) then coach the back 4 to stop retreating onto our keepers toes you'd sort out most of our defensive woes.
I think our defensive problems are down to a number of factors (including the midfield) and I'm not sure buying 1 CB will sort everything out.