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by **bunglemark2** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:03 pm

Point is, as I have made in another thread yesterday, we buy in these guys from abroad, we spend God knows how much on them, we invest time and effort (and it's all cumulative - that's the point !), and then they're a) sold (witness Panathanaikos last night; Leicester; other clubs throughout the leagues); b) loaned out, most likely never to return; or c) released.
What's the point in wasting money on child prodigies who add nothing tangible, not are likely to get the opportunity ?

by **JoeTerp** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:10 pm

if you sell them its not wasted money, and we would have kept Leto but it turns out the passport that we thought he had when we signed him was later found out to be dogey and his permit was taken away and not given back

And this "god knows how much" is still a pretty small number, not big enough to buy anybody too significant, especially after you take into account how much we recoup.

I wonder how much Insua is worth now? we signed him on loan and then made it permanent by sending Paletta the other way. If Insua plays for Argentina soon, while he is only 20 years old, which could happen, Argentina aren't exactly stacked at LB, his value will skyrocket. Not saying that we should sell him, but his value as an asset will be high enough to justify the entire venture

by **bunglemark2** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:18 pm

Nemeth, Simon, Hobbs, Hammill, the list goes on and on.....
For the quantity purchased over recent seasons, how many are willing to take bets on even 10% of them getting to the big time ?
Building and planning for the future is admirable, but surely a manager needs to be a little more short-sighted than that, and understand that in the modern game, you just don't have the luxury of a 5-year plan, or even a 2-year plan unless you have a very very patient boss....

by **JoeTerp** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 8:40 pm

its not like we are not buying players for the present. We bought JOhnsona and Aquilani who are entering their prime. YOu need to build for both simultaneously. We can't afford to buy the "sure thing" youngsters like Walcott and Ramsey because their price is way above their risk. We already got burned in a sense with this on Babel who was a bigger money potential buy. All of these youngsters are bought for pennies relatively speaking.

We are running a low risk, high reward game. There is low risk because we don't spend much on them in the first place, and its reasonable to expect to be able to sell them on later at equal or higher prices with "trained at LFC" stamped on their back, and then every so often you get a starting left back. Not quite as often as at a club like Arsenal, but they are taking a bigger risk in bringing in bigger name and bigger money youngsters like Walcott and Ramsey (although now they are starting to make their own like Wilshere but that took years after Whenger arrived)

by **bigmick** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:09 pm

s@int wrote:Liverpool have been tracking his progress for some time and Banik general manager Werner Licka is not surprised Rafa Benitez's men have stepped up their interest.

"He knows what he wants and he is all right in the head. "

Well that's a start. We ought to consider such things I reckon, if we'd have asked that of a player before we signed them in the past we might have avoided Collymore, Diouf, Bellamy and Babel amongst no doubt many others.

by **bigmick** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:09 pm

Reg wrote:
Lee J wrote:we may as well be trawling the fking conference league for players

Call it 'La Liga Conferença' and he probably would.

Reginald, slap on the wrist for you mate.

by **bunglemark2** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:54 am

Apparently Shevchenko is to be told he is way down the pecking order at Chavski....Before you jump down my throat, would he be worht a punt on a loan deal ?

by **stmichael** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 11:57 am

i've heard that we've enquired about taking baptista on a loan deal aswell.

i hate the transfer window. :angry:

by **bunglemark2** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:07 pm

stmichael wrote:i've heard that we've enquired about taking baptista on a loan deal aswell.

i hate the transfer window.

Mate, I think it's more like "John the Baptista" we need to perform a miracle or two.....

by **puroresu** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:17 pm

bunglemark2 wrote:Apparently Shevchenko is to be told he is way down the pecking order at Chavski....Before you jump down my throat, would he be worht a punt on a loan deal ?

No way. His finished

by **bigmick** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:10 pm

bunglemark2 wrote:
stmichael wrote:i've heard that we've enquired about taking baptista on a loan deal aswell.

i hate the transfer window.

Mate, I think it's more like "John the Baptista" we need to perform a miracle or two.....

very good mate, made me laugh that one.

by **tubby** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:25 pm

Baptista would be a good addition. Intelligent player....didn't he score 4 against us in that cup game?

by **stmichael** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:31 pm

tuncay agreed terms with stoke :oh:

by **bigmick** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:32 pm

bavlondon wrote:Baptista would be a good addition. Intelligent player....didn't he score 4 against us in that cup game?

He's the big bloke isn't he, looks like a doorman

If that's him, he's garbage.

by **tubby** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:40 pm

stmichael wrote:tuncay agreed terms with stoke

6Mil or something like that? Cheap as chips, im a bit dissapointed we didn't make a try for him.

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