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by **Ben Patrick** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:29 pm

bigger picture ?

if you were Aquilani sitting on watching a game like that, itching to get on and get some much needed playing time how would you feel as Degen gets the nod to get on before you ?

by **Benny The Noon** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:33 pm

Ben Patrick wrote:bigger picture ?

if you were Aquilani sitting on watching a game like that, itching to get on and get some much needed playing time how would you feel as Degen gets the nod to get on before you ?

Well i would hope he would be dying to get on and prove himself just like any player who sits on the bench should be and then next chance he gets he goes and shows the manager what he is made off just like he did against Burnley.

Bigger Picture ? does that not include the rest of his career as opposed to just this season where some people are saying he is the worst buy of this season by any club ?!? is that looking at the bigger picture

by **Ben Patrick** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:43 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
Ben Patrick wrote:bigger picture ?

if you were Aquilani sitting on watching a game like that, itching to get on and get some much needed playing time how would you feel as Degen gets the nod to get on before you ?

Well i would hope he would be dying to get on and prove himself just like any player who sits on the bench should be and then next chance he gets he goes and shows the manager what he is made off just like he did against Burnley.

Bigger Picture ? does that not include the rest of his career as opposed to just this season where some people are saying he is the worst buy of this season by any club ?!? is that looking at the bigger picture

if he isnt capable of getting any playing time at home to west ham then i feel he is yes.
and you said he is a top player, surely he doesnt need to prove he is able to compete at home to west ham ?
Unless the manager disagrees with you on his abilities ?

Or maybe we have a clueless manager ?

The thing is you will contradict yourself, cos you will back rafa over almost everything but cant on this - so you hide behind the - well we won the game so its all that matters.

Thats b'llocks and you know it lad.

by **Benny The Noon** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:45 pm

Just because a player may have ability while he played in another country or league he still has to adjust to the prem and for Aquilani is more to do with the physical nature of the game .

I actually believe Parker and Noble would of bullied him out of the game against West Ham

by **Ben Patrick** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:48 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:Just because a player may have ability while he played in another country or league he still has to adjust to the prem and for Aquilani is more to do with the physical nature of the game .

I actually believe Parker and Noble would of bullied him out of the game against West Ham

parker was suspended

and, what about when the game was done and dusted and we had so much time and space and brought on Degen ?

Nice move Rafa lad, totally kill the italians confidence.

by **Big Niall** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:04 pm

Fauxy wrote:It boggles my mind how people dont rate Aquilani

He has just came from a different league after recovering from a serious injury. Over a year out from football.

Rafa has bearly gave him a chance to impress. He has started 6 games for us

Perfect example of Benitez's stupidity.

by **rocky29** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:11 pm

Big Niall wrote:
Fauxy wrote:It boggles my mind how people dont rate Aquilani

He has just came from a different league after recovering from a serious injury. Over a year out from football.

Rafa has bearly gave him a chance to impress. He has started 6 games for us

Perfect example of Benitez's stupidity.

well in italy the rumours are coming out that when rafa becomes juventus manager this summer alberto aquilani is his number one target. Now is that weird or what?

by **Ben Patrick** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:12 pm

rocky29 wrote:
Big Niall wrote:
Fauxy wrote:It boggles my mind how people dont rate Aquilani

He has just came from a different league after recovering from a serious injury. Over a year out from football.

Rafa has bearly gave him a chance to impress. He has started 6 games for us

Perfect example of Benitez's stupidity.

well in italy the rumours are coming out that when rafa becomes juventus manager this summer alberto aquilani is his number one target. Now is that weird or what?

who started them the welsh wizard ?

Or did lakes find it out off a friend in the know

by **LFC2007** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:05 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:I do believe Aquilani is a more technically gifted player than lucas but i also believe Rafa selected a side to win the game and succeeded . The fact Aquilani didnt play doesnt bother me cause we got a victory .

Then you cannot fail to accept that he's been benched and hasn't played or has come on as a sub for a few min's here and there in far too many games. The West Ham game was a continuation of that policy and that's why you should be concerned.

by **tubby** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:28 pm

Maybe he isn't 100% fit yet. I think once he has had a proper pre season things will be different.

by **Ben Patrick** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:49 pm

bavlondon wrote:Maybe he isn't 100% fit yet. I think once he has had a proper pre season things will be different.

dont mean to sound funny mate, but as far as i am concerned the best way of getting fit is playing.

but i hope you are right.

by **Fauxy** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:03 pm

Ben Patrick wrote:
bavlondon wrote:Maybe he isn't 100% fit yet. I think once he has had a proper pre season things will be different.

dont mean to sound funny mate, but as far as i am concerned the best way of getting fit is playing.

but i hope you are right.

Tell thah to Rafa

by **tubby** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:04 pm

Yeah I know what you mean. To be honest I am struggling to come up with any other reason as to why Rafa wont play him more often now other than the possibility Rafa doesn't have enough faith in him.

by **Sir Roger** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:23 pm

bavlondon wrote:Yeah I know what you mean. To be honest I am struggling to come up with any other reason as to why Rafa wont play him more often now other than the possibility Rafa doesn't have enough faith in him.

He worketh in mysterious ways...
:nod

by **Scottbot** » Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:57 pm

Sir Roger wrote:If Rafa bought him and doesnt play him when hes fit then is Rafa not a prize idiot? People saying he is a bad signing and not suited to the PL are talking absolute bo'llocks.

But you're taking the signing completely out of the context of this season eg. our desperate need to replace Alonso, the fact he was badly injured, the fact the manager seems to have regretted purchasing the player, the fact he has hardly played. All of these factors make him a bad signing. In the context of our season he was a COMPLETE CLUSTERF**K of a signing. There's no getting away from that.

However, going forward, he might be a player for us. I don't think the majority of posters have made their mind up about the lad (you are talking as if they have though), I know I haven't. A few (like Mick) think he's a talented luxury who won't cut it in the EPL but that isn't the overwhelming consensus in this place. Personally, I keep swinging back and forwards. I've gone from yes, to no, to don't know.

I don't believe he can go and be the player we want him to be under Rafa though, not with our style of play and Rafa's emphasis on control and the defensive side of the game. He needs to play with clever players in a team with good movement, and a good passing tempo that can keep it all day. Surround him with Kuyts, Lucas's and Ngogs and he will struggle I think. Rafa likes his hard-working clappers in the side, and he trys to off-set this with a sprinkling of 2-3-4 skill players in the hope that this will provide enough from an attacking stand-point. I don't think this will play to Aquiani's strengths.

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