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Postby account deleted by request » Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:55 pm

Nunez, Garcia, Morientes, Crouch, Fowler, Bellamy , Kuyt,  El Zhar, Ajdarevic, Brouwer, Nemeth, Torres, Voronin, Benayoun, Babel, N'gOG and Keane. Quite a list when you consider I havent included players like Pacheco.

Now you can do the mancs one Igor  :D
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Postby kazza » Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:55 pm

Igor Zidane wrote:
dawson99 wrote:diouf?

Houllier mate.

:laugh:  It is Rafa's fault Dawson doesn't know sh1t
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Postby Igor Zidane » Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:55 pm

dawson99 wrote:rafa sent him on loan? so he was still on our books when he was here lol, but ok, leave him out... so:

Crouch
Torres
Keane
Bellamy
Fowler
N,gog
Vorinin
Kuyt
morientes
Cisse

Houllier bought Cisse , before he was sacked .Not a rafa buy ,BUT we'll include him as he started the same time as rafa fair enough.
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Postby Igor Zidane » Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:56 pm

s@int wrote:Nunez, Garcia, Morientes, Crouch, Fowler, Bellamy , Kuyt,  El Zhar, Ajdarevic, Brouwer, Nemeth, Torres, Voronin, Benayoun, Babel, N'gOG and Keane. Quite a list when you consider I havent included players like Pacheco.

Now you can do the mancs one Igor  :D

Oh so you want to include youngsters aswell ,happy days' .

Nunez and el zhar are midfielders /wingers ,defo not strikers .You cant have them . AJdarevis , holding miidfielder ,defo not him .
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Postby dawson99 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:57 pm

lol..lets keep the youngsters out of this or it will be mental...
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Postby Emerald Red » Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:58 pm

dawson99 wrote:lol..lets keep the youngsters out of this or it will be mental...

I know. It always gets ugly when the kids are brought into it.
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Postby Igor Zidane » Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:00 pm

dawson99 wrote:lol..lets keep the youngsters out of this or it will be mental...

Can we stick to your list then DAWS.
Crouch
Torres
Keane
Bellamy
Fowler
N,gog
Vorinin
Kuyt
morientes
Cisse

That's 10 fair enough . Now lets do the mancs , remember it's since Rafa was in charge not Fergie :D
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Postby dawson99 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:01 pm

Arsenal strikers since 2004:

Reyes
Bergkamp
Van Persie
Henry
Eduardo
bentner
Adebayor
alliadiere
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Postby Igor Zidane » Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:04 pm

dawson99 wrote:Arsenal strikers since 2004:

Reyes
Bergkamp
Van Persie
Henry
Eduardo
bentner
Adebayor
alliadiere

Ok berkamp and henry were already there so they don't count .

What about .

Arshavin
walcott , Bought as a striker defo
Jeffers
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Postby account deleted by request » Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:05 pm

Emerald Red wrote:Again, bar one summer or two, when has the manager been allowed to spend on average the net of 20 million for the likes of another Torres, Villa, a class winger like Silva. All these players cost at least 20 million, and they are the kind of player Liverpool FC require. I'd say you have to take the odd punt at 7 million pound players, and freebee's like Voronin. Are you trying to tell me if Benitez was given the funds, we wouldn't have another world class striker at this club? Or a world class winger like Ribery? You'd have to be mad for saying no. Jose got the players HE wanted because he had the funds there to spunk at will. Fergie likewise. We haven't had. That's the difference.

When have Birmingham spent £20million on a player? How many world class players did McLeish inherit when he took over? If he had only had the money I am sure BIRMINGHAM WOULDN'T BE ONE POINT BEHIND US.

A bad workman blames his tools, and there are quite a few tools that Rafa has brought in   :D

Crying about money all the time rather than getting the best out of the squad at his disposal after spending over £200million on players, AND remember he came in as the manager that could win us the league WITHOUT SPENDING A FORTUNE.

The problem we have is not lack of funds as much as an underperforming team.
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Postby dawson99 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:06 pm

man utd:

Alan Smith
diego Forlan
Rooney
Nistelrooy
Luis Saha
Solsjkaer
tevez
berbatov
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Postby Igor Zidane » Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:07 pm

So that's

Reyes
Van persie
eduardo
Bendtner
Adebayour
Alliadier
Arshavin
Walcott
Jeffers
Carlos vella

any more  that's 10 also
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Postby dawson99 » Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:07 pm

jeffers left in 2003. If they get Walcott then we get Garcia lol
Im just looking at players there at the time, dont have to be brought in that time... its confuddling tho and i admit they have a few as well

what about Kewell then?
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Postby Emerald Red » Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:08 pm

dawson99 wrote:Arsenal strikers since 2004:

Reyes
Bergkamp
Van Persie
Henry
Eduardo
bentner
Adebayor
alliadiere

Reyes - mediocre; turned into a pudding
Adybayor - another overrated pudding; had half a good season.
Bentner - pudding full stop
Alliadiere - wasn't good enough. Found his place with Boro. Where are they?

The rest need no description, but the jury is still out on Eduardo. What's the point of this list? Bar Bergkamp (who was at the club over 10 years ago BTW) and Henry, Arsenal hardly had any prolific forwards. We've always been known for having those, though.
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Postby KennyisGod....still » Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:09 pm

maybe its Rafa's fault the other 2 didnt get Torres........
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