Bammo wrote:Didn't Torres replace Bellamy? Or is he not proper?
A (genuine!) question for all of those who are currently slating the quality of the squad: did you think it was this poor at the end of last season and that we were over-achieving, or did you think it was good then but the loss of Alonso/Arbeloa has turned everyone else rubbish?
Bammo wrote:Didn't Torres replace Bellamy? Or is he not proper?
A (genuine!) question for all of those who are currently slating the quality of the squad: did you think it was this poor at the end of last season and that we were over-achieving, or did you think it was good then but the loss of Alonso/Arbeloa has turned everyone else rubbish?
Bammo wrote:Didn't Torres replace Bellamy? Or is he not proper?
A (genuine!) question for all of those who are currently slating the quality of the squad: did you think it was this poor at the end of last season and that we were over-achieving, or did you think it was good then but the loss of Alonso/Arbeloa has turned everyone else rubbish?
heimdall wrote:Big Niall wrote:We only have two top class players and one of those came through the LFC system. With the exception of Torres I can't see any outfield player that Rafa has bought that I'd look to to turn a game.
I'd add Reina and Johnson to the list of good signings but beyond that it starts to get tricky, Benni on his day is fantastic but all too often goes missing and Mascha has always had an attitude problem and plays for himself far more than the team. As for the rest of the players they are average, under a motivational manager they would do a hell of a lot better but with Mr. Buzzkill in charge they haven't got a chance.
maypaxvobiscum wrote:1) Warnock > dossena
2) Cisse > babel
3) Riise > dossena
4) Hamann > lucas
5) Finnan > degen
6) Fowler > ngog
7) Crouch > voronin
8) Hyypia - greekos
Reg wrote:Time to be honest - Babel has not shown he has the required ability to take Liverpool to a higher level and Spearing likewise is insignificant compared to real midfielders who dominate games and dictate their courses.
We need to buy in quality and the only way to pay for them is to get rid of the journeymen.
bigmick wrote:I think the point the fella is making though Emerald isn't that the likes of Cisse were top players, far from it. I think he is sayign that despite his obvious limitations he is better than what we have instead aside obviously from Torres. In fairness he is correct as well. To be fair, so is Crouch, Bellamy, Baros, Pongolle and Keane.
Now as you point out, there were valid reasons for moving on all those players on that list, but it's common sense that if you replace them with inferior players the value of the squad in a footballing sense will go down. Once Aquilani starts, we'll be able to make a judgement on whther or not the squad and team have improved with him in it as opposed to Alonso. That won't change the apparent fact that we had no choice but to sell Alonso of course, but replacing players and remaining successful is what good managers do. It's what Ferguson has done three or four times over and is doing this season after losing Tevez and Ronaldo, and it's what wenger has done mnay times over as well. It's what we must aim for too surely.
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