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Postby JC_81 » Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:24 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
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Emerald Red wrote:F*ck sake, he's started only two games and you lot are spouting he's a waste of 20 million already? Catch a grip. It's interesting how some of you lot seem reluctant to critsis our captain, and rather stick the boot into the new boy. If anything, stick the boot into Rafa for not playing him as often as he should. The lad needs games FFS.

Who said he's a waste of 20 million?

Read a few notes with such connotations. Not just on here either.

I think it's far too early to judge, he hasn't had time to prove anything yet.  But I don't think his early performances have been anything special either.  That's not a criticism just a fact.
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Postby bigmick » Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:24 pm

I think if we are going to expect Aquilani to provide a return from central midfield anytime soon, he will be a waste of 20 million quid yes.

Of course he needs time and the rest, all players do, but you can be absolutely certain that if he does make it as a central midfielder in England he is going to have to completely transform the way he plays the game. That doesn't mean he can't do it, but it does mean he's got an awful lot of work to do. Would I have taken a punt on a guy who is patently unsuited to English football on the off chance that he may be able to adapt? Not in a million years no, but that's by the by because we have already done it. The selection today confirms the suspicion that he's been "fit" for some time but quite simply can't get in the team, such is the paucity of his contribution from a defensive and workrate point of view.

All that said it's fairly obvious he is a talented footballer, so if the desire is there in sufficient quantity then obviously he has a chance. It may well be that we have to kind of invent a role for him in order to use his talents such as they are, perhaps wide left in a similar kind of role to which Modric plays for Spurs. Redknapp has been quite clever with him, he plays him on the left but he pushed into quite an advanced role, almost a cross between a midfielder and an inside forward. It may be that we have to do the same with Alberto in order to shoehorn him into the team, or perhaps on the right although him and Johnson together might be a tad powder puff for the managers tastes.

It'll be an interesting test of the manager though. certainly at the moment I can think of better ways we could have spent 20 million quid last Summer, but we'll see.
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Postby zardd » Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:08 am

one thing for sure, he definitely have to be more alert to opposition players coming hard on him and dont dwell on the ball in the middle. Yesterday against Reading, once second he thinks he is alone, next sec there is a a player all over him.. and he just lose the ball. Really look off pace when he came on, and this is for a player who should be fresh with energy as a sub against tiring players.
Hope he really live up to his 20m tag and Rafa giving him more matches to familiarize with the pace of the premier league.
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Postby kazza » Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:23 am

I thought that that was the worst I have seen him against Reading, but having said that the field was terrible (not good for a one/two touch player that he is). It is simplistic to say he will not cut it in the prem as quality will always be quality and it will show through. I like what he can potentially bring to the team, but i will reserve my judgement until he has truly settled which he hasn't.
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Postby Waldo » Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:54 pm

Aquaman looked poor last night but then again so did every player who had a Liverpool shirt on.
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Postby Sir Roger » Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:02 pm

If anything I feel sorry for the lad
Coming in to a team injured with high expectations is one thing
Coming into a potential relegation battle, never mind qualifying for the CL is quite another.
The expectations now are totally unjustified. How anyone can expect a rookie from another country to turn the fortunes of a club in such a depressing decline is absolutely unfair and unjustified. He is being thrown into the lions den with a toothpick for a weapon. The team he is in has to be the worst bunch of self pitying, self obsessed, underachieving slackers I have ever had the misfortune to watch in red shirts. Yesterdays performance was probably the worst Ive seen in all my years watching LFC. I cant be ar'sed going into the wheres and whyfores because its too depressing. The irony of it is I honestly truthfully believe its a good set of players. Theyre just not pulling their weight and its embarrassing.
Rafa has lost any type of power he previously wielded and he is now for all intents and purposes a spectator once the team he has picked runs onto the pitch. The pathetic squawking and arm waiving needs to stop as it is cringey and sad to watch.
To blame Aquilani in the slightest is criminal in my eyes as there are ten other men on that pitch who, on yesterdays performance wouldnt get in Readings side never mind the team supposedly challenging for the title this season.
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Postby REDTILLDEAD » Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:04 pm

john craig wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
john craig wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:F*ck sake, he's started only two games and you lot are spouting he's a waste of 20 million already? Catch a grip. It's interesting how some of you lot seem reluctant to critsis our captain, and rather stick the boot into the new boy. If anything, stick the boot into Rafa for not playing him as often as he should. The lad needs games FFS.

Who said he's a waste of 20 million?

Read a few notes with such connotations. Not just on here either.

I think it's far too early to judge, he hasn't had time to prove anything yet.  But I don't think his early performances have been anything special either.  That's not a criticism just a fact.

I dont think he will be a patch on Alonso....another panic buy by Rafa i think?. :nod
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Postby shawnk » Sun Jan 03, 2010 2:55 pm

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shawnk wrote:He's fully fit for a lower priority cup competition (as compared to top 4) and yet he is on the bench. I think he's a goner.

fully fit? when exactly did you make this assessment?

Fully fit as in physically fit enough to play majority part of the game. And I based on his last two matches where he started and based on there's no report saying he is injured.
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Postby 7_Kewell » Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:17 pm

shawnk wrote:
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shawnk wrote:He's fully fit for a lower priority cup competition (as compared to top 4) and yet he is on the bench. I think he's a goner.

fully fit? when exactly did you make this assessment?

Fully fit as in physically fit enough to play majority part of the game. And I based on his last two matches where he started and based on there's no report saying he is injured.

being fully fit and match fit are two very different things.
Aqulani isn't match fit and wont be until he's playing week in, week out.

The guy needs 10-15 gmes to get his match sharpness back...only then will i make any judgements on the player.
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Postby Waldo » Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:24 pm

It is still far to early to judge the guy.

Anyone who expected him to come in and straight away have a major impact on our team and our season is daft.

- He has been brought into a team devoid of confidence and playing sh*t football
- He has had to play alongside an inexperienced Lucas Leiva (I would like to see him play alongside Mascha)
- He has the added pressure of being expected to fill the boots vacated by Alonso

It will take him a minimum of 10 games to find his feet in the EPL. Only then will we be able to see how good he is.
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Postby mart » Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:27 am

Playing in a team without a shred of confidence, after having been out with a injury for 8(?) months, in a new team in a new league. Yes it will take time for him to adjust, but aquilani is a quality player.
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Postby Scottbot » Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:35 am

I don't think many fans have judged the lad as yet, all you can do is make a few calls on what he shows as he finds his fitness. It's not like there is much else to talk about given our terrible form. I must admit I was looking forward to seeing Aqua in the flesh at the weekend and with hindsight, maybe he should have played from the start with Gerrard playing further up the pitch because we looked like a team that hadn't played with 2 up-front for the best part of 2 seasons.
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Postby cheras » Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:40 am

We really, really should have bought deFour. He was going for something like 15 mil, and would've been a proven enforcer.

Aquilani was a nice-to-have, talented, but the last 2 seasons he was in and out of a Roma side.
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Postby Scottbot » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:45 am

Have been holding back my judgement on the lad but serious alarm bells going off for me now. 120 minutes of football, not one tackle. He looks decent on the ball and I cansee why Stevie compared him to Alonso in some respects but Alonso finished in the top 5 (see Opta League stats) for tackles virtually every season and this boy doesn't want to do it. The McAnuff run (where he should have scored), Aquilani tracked back was running to towards the player, was in position to make the tackle (or at least foul the player, I know I would have), and he simply pulled out. He's not made for this league. Gutted  :(
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Postby Sir Roger » Thu Jan 14, 2010 12:47 am

Scottbot wrote:Have been holding back my judgement on the lad but serious alarm bells going off for me now. 120 minutes of football, not one tackle. He looks decent on the ball and I cansee why Stevie compared him to Alonso in some respects but Alonso finished in the top 5 (see Opta League stats) for tackles virtually every season and this boy doesn't want to do it. The McAnuff run (where he should have scored), Aquilani tracked back was running to towards the player, was in position to make the tackle (or at least foul the player, I know I would have), and he simply pulled out. He's not made for this league. Gutted  :(

He had a shocker to be fair.
I was afraid he would be brought down to the level were playing at this season and sadly this has been the case.
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