Sell mascherano to raise funds? - Sell or keep?

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Sell mascherano to raise funds? - Sell or keep?

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Postby bigmick » Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:01 pm

kazza wrote:
bigmick wrote:Keep him. In the summer, the manager (whoever it is) may need to generate some funds in order to buy. There seems little point to me in selling Masherano and giving Rafa the funds to "invest" when we are a couple of results away from mid table in year 6 of the 5 year plan. This is his team, which he has built having spent in excess of 200 million quid or whatever the feck it is. Lets see how he goes with it, if he can get us into the top four and maybe even win a trophy then we should start talking about next season. If he can't, lets reconsider then but now isn't the time to be cashing in on the family silver.

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Postby maypaxvobiscum » Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:29 pm

BigMick, why do you entertain him by replying? its like a bait you know. stick to long posts instead of smilies  :D
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Postby Penguins » Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:53 pm

kazza wrote:
bigmick wrote:Keep him. In the summer, the manager (whoever it is) may need to generate some funds in order to buy. There seems little point to me in selling Masherano and giving Rafa the funds to "invest" when we are a couple of results away from mid table in year 6 of the 5 year plan. This is his team, which he has built having spent in excess of 200 million quid or whatever the feck it is. Lets see how he goes with it, if he can get us into the top four and maybe even win a trophy then we should start talking about next season. If he can't, lets reconsider then but now isn't the time to be cashing in on the family silver.

:sleep

Another classic!

Ya, some ignorant **** will never understand the difference between net spend and gross spend. And i makes a HUGE difference. Everytime someone tells anything different than those 80-85 million Rafa really has had to spend I'll correct it again and again. Everything else is lies which the media keeps spouting(and obviously some seem to pick up)
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Postby kazza » Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:01 am

Penguins wrote:
kazza wrote:
bigmick wrote:Keep him. In the summer, the manager (whoever it is) may need to generate some funds in order to buy. There seems little point to me in selling Masherano and giving Rafa the funds to "invest" when we are a couple of results away from mid table in year 6 of the 5 year plan. This is his team, which he has built having spent in excess of 200 million quid or whatever the feck it is. Lets see how he goes with it, if he can get us into the top four and maybe even win a trophy then we should start talking about next season. If he can't, lets reconsider then but now isn't the time to be cashing in on the family silver.

:sleep

Another classic!

Ya, some ignorant **** will never understand the difference between net spend and gross spend. And i makes a HUGE difference. Everytime someone tells anything different than those 80-85 million Rafa really has had to spend I'll correct it again and again. Everything else is lies which the media keeps spouting(and obviously some seem to pick up)

Exactly, they know the truth because they have been corrected a hundred times but they still use it (to bait more than anything). "Raffa spent 200 million", "We lost 10million on the Keane deal", "Parry was actually good" "I will be successful in New Zealand" (oops :blush: ). Truth is not important on this forum to some, only pushing their own agenda, and I'm the bad one (sorry Dawson "baddie") :D
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Postby bigmick » Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:25 am

kazza wrote:
Penguins wrote:
kazza wrote:
bigmick wrote:Keep him. In the summer, the manager (whoever it is) may need to generate some funds in order to buy. There seems little point to me in selling Masherano and giving Rafa the funds to "invest" when we are a couple of results away from mid table in year 6 of the 5 year plan. This is his team, which he has built having spent in excess of 200 million quid or whatever the feck it is. Lets see how he goes with it, if he can get us into the top four and maybe even win a trophy then we should start talking about next season. If he can't, lets reconsider then but now isn't the time to be cashing in on the family silver.

:sleep

Another classic!

Ya, some ignorant **** will never understand the difference between net spend and gross spend. And i makes a HUGE difference. Everytime someone tells anything different than those 80-85 million Rafa really has had to spend I'll correct it again and again. Everything else is lies which the media keeps spouting(and obviously some seem to pick up)

Exactly, they know the truth because they have been corrected a hundred times but they still use it (to bait more than anything). "Raffa spent 200 million", "We lost 10million on the Keane deal", "Parry was actually good" "I will be successful in New Zealand" (oops :blush: ). Truth is not important on this forum to some, only pushing their own agenda, and I'm the bad one (sorry Dawson "baddie") :D

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Postby bigmick » Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:35 am

Penguins wrote:
bigmick wrote:Keep him. In the summer, the manager (whoever it is) may need to generate some funds in order to buy. There seems little point to me in selling Masherano and giving Rafa the funds to "invest" when we are a couple of results away from mid table in year 6 of the 5 year plan. This is his team, which he has built having spent in excess of 200 million quid or whatever the feck it is. Lets see how he goes with it, if he can get us into the top four and maybe even win a trophy then we should start talking about next season. If he can't, lets reconsider then but now isn't the time to be cashing in on the family silver.

Ya, some ignorant **** will never understand the difference between net spend and gross spend. And i makes a HUGE difference. Everytime someone tells anything different than those 80-85 million Rafa really has had to spend I'll correct it again and again. Everything else is lies which the media keeps spouting(and obviously some seem to pick up)

Net spend and gross spend are very different, I definately agree with you there. Since Rafa has been the manager, which out of net spend and gross spend have we exceeded both the mancs and Arsenal, if either? Have we exceeded either, neither or both clubs in Net spend, and the same question for gross spend?

Might as well clear it up once and for all. Since Rafa has been the manager, ie the last six seasons.

Sorry to an ignorant **** by the way, I do apologise.
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Postby aCe' » Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:25 am

kazza wrote:
Penguins wrote:
kazza wrote:
bigmick wrote:Keep him. In the summer, the manager (whoever it is) may need to generate some funds in order to buy. There seems little point to me in selling Masherano and giving Rafa the funds to "invest" when we are a couple of results away from mid table in year 6 of the 5 year plan. This is his team, which he has built having spent in excess of 200 million quid or whatever the feck it is. Lets see how he goes with it, if he can get us into the top four and maybe even win a trophy then we should start talking about next season. If he can't, lets reconsider then but now isn't the time to be cashing in on the family silver.

:sleep

Another classic!

Ya, some ignorant **** will never understand the difference between net spend and gross spend. And i makes a HUGE difference. Everytime someone tells anything different than those 80-85 million Rafa really has had to spend I'll correct it again and again. Everything else is lies which the media keeps spouting(and obviously some seem to pick up)

Exactly, they know the truth because they have been corrected a hundred times but they still use it (to bait more than anything). "Raffa spent 200 million", "We lost 10million on the Keane deal", "Parry was actually good" "I will be successful in New Zealand" (oops :blush: ). Truth is not important on this forum to some, only pushing their own agenda, and I'm the bad one (sorry Dawson "baddie") :D

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Postby Red H » Fri Jan 01, 2010 1:02 pm

Torres, Gerrard, Reina, aside everyone has their price ( I don't believe it would be possible to adequately replace them) .  I don't like that we have to sell, but if it means getting the balance of the team right then that's what we have to do.  Providing the right offer is made, and the right player(s) are available to us then that's just the way it is.
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Postby kazza » Fri Jan 01, 2010 2:00 pm

aCe' wrote::kungfu:

Kung fu?? 

You might want to register that wit of yours as a dangerous weapon   :D
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Postby kazza » Fri Jan 01, 2010 2:08 pm

bigmick wrote:Since Rafa has been the manager, which out of net spend and gross spend have we exceeded both the mancs and Arsenal, if either? Have we exceeded either, neither or both clubs in Net spend, and the same question for gross spend?

Might as well clear it up once and for all.

???  Well I'm glad we cleared that up  :upside:
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Postby tubby » Fri Jan 01, 2010 2:17 pm

bigmick wrote:
Penguins wrote:
bigmick wrote:Keep him. In the summer, the manager (whoever it is) may need to generate some funds in order to buy. There seems little point to me in selling Masherano and giving Rafa the funds to "invest" when we are a couple of results away from mid table in year 6 of the 5 year plan. This is his team, which he has built having spent in excess of 200 million quid or whatever the feck it is. Lets see how he goes with it, if he can get us into the top four and maybe even win a trophy then we should start talking about next season. If he can't, lets reconsider then but now isn't the time to be cashing in on the family silver.

Ya, some ignorant **** will never understand the difference between net spend and gross spend. And i makes a HUGE difference. Everytime someone tells anything different than those 80-85 million Rafa really has had to spend I'll correct it again and again. Everything else is lies which the media keeps spouting(and obviously some seem to pick up)

Net spend and gross spend are very different, I definately agree with you there. Since Rafa has been the manager, which out of net spend and gross spend have we exceeded both the mancs and Arsenal, if either? Have we exceeded either, neither or both clubs in Net spend, and the same question for gross spend?

Might as well clear it up once and for all. Since Rafa has been the manager, ie the last six seasons.

Sorry to an ignorant **** by the way, I do apologise.

And which out of those 2 spends did utd outdo us on when Utd were trying to overtake us years ago?

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Postby bigmick » Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:25 pm

I'm not sure I understand your question Bav. Look it's really not that complex though. Rafa has been the manager at Liverpool for approaching six years. During that period, he has spent more gross than either Manchester United or Arsenal. He has also during that period spent more net than either Manchester United or Arsenal.

It really is as simple as that. People can knock themselves out till their hearts content on the subject, but there it is, facts are facts. Why they don't choose a battelground which would at least allow a sensible and even debate I'm not sure as none of them will ever tell me, but can't we at least find something more interesting to debate?
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Postby bigmick » Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:26 pm

kazza wrote:
bigmick wrote:Since Rafa has been the manager, which out of net spend and gross spend have we exceeded both the mancs and Arsenal, if either? Have we exceeded either, neither or both clubs in Net spend, and the same question for gross spend?

Might as well clear it up once and for all.

???  Well I'm glad we cleared that up  :upside:

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Postby KennyisGod....still » Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:26 pm

thats somethin we'll neva know but back then they chased several years longer than we've been...
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Postby muzza798 » Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:09 pm

H&G have sold their American and Canadian franchises, we probably looking at new investors from the east and Mascherano is 1 of the few players we have that will attract new ones so we dont ned to sell him or anyone big.
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